Carroll Hot To Trot? Bolton Offer £2 Million.

Posted on January 16th, 2010 | 134 Comments |

The Bensham Van Basten: Not for sale.
The Bensham Van Basten: Not for sale.
News yesterday of a bid for one of our young, local lads – Andy Carroll – from Bolton Wanderers as their new manager Owen Coyle seeks to add numbers to squad in a bid to stave off relegation. A cheeky £2 million bid has said to have been lodged.

Andy Carroll has been an important player for us this season so far. Whilst he hasn’t exactly been prolific in front of goal, he has had the knack of unsettling the opposition defenders, perhaps allowing other players scoring opportunities by creating space, like for Lovenkrands on Wenesday evening.

With 4 goals in 18 appearances this season, Carroll is far from the finished article and has attracted his fair share of criticism from fans for an alleged altercation on a night out in Newcastle’s Blu Bamboo bar in the Bigg Market – a hotbead of chavs, slappers and sexually transmitted diseases – and that’s on top of another transgression a while back! I personally feel that if he can knuckle down and work on the mental aspect of his game off the pitch, and learn some composure in front of goal on the pitch, then we are better off keeping hold of him. Manager Chris Hughton seems to be thinking along the same lines, saying:

“They are wasting their time with Andy – He is not for sale!”

I’m sure we all know that despite what a manager has said, transfers can often still happen regardless, and this may well be a regurgatated rumour from back in the summer when Stoke City were linked, or in November when the then Bolton boss, Gary Megson was said to be pondering a £4 million pound swoop.

Carroll is not a massive earner at St James’ Park so there really shouldn’t be any need or urgency to shift him off the wage bill, despite that however, I still feel a valuation if £2 million is off the mark, purely on the basis that Leeds want the same for an untried, untested League 1 striker who’s contract runs out in the summer!

I think we have more important areas of the team to address before we start moving strikers in and out. A cover left back and getting Danny Simpson signed should be the priorities. Unfortunately, this is Newcastle United and things are seldom done quickly and efficiently. It also looks like we are set to miss out on Matt Kilgallon from Sheffield United as Burnley confirm they have bid for the player who professed his loyalty to The Blades just last week.

In fairness though, this transfer window generally has been one the quiestest ones I can remember for a while. February 2nd is the day the window slams shut so there is still time! Perhaps we’ll manage some deadline day drama like signing Messi?! Unfortunately i can’t see that happening, but I hope things don’t end up getting messy like the last few transfer windows where we have been left scrambling around with only hours left on deadline day.

Here’s hoping…

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  1. Is it me or does it go way beyond cheeky and become downright insulting that ‘the trotters and Coyle offering £2m. I just hope our powers that be give them short shrift.

  2. Totally agree

    £2 million for a 6’4″, England under 21 striker who has already caught Capello’s eye is just laughable.

    Not to mention he has about 3 years left on his contract with the team he’s supported his whole life.

    Ne chance mate! HWTL

  3. re if the nobby storey is right surely we can match u/s wage offer,then again we are talking ashley

  4. It’s up. My internet wen’t US shortly after writing this, so I couldn’t let anyone know i’d done it!

  5. TOONSY;your right but dont know if he has put pen to paper,he has been seen at sjp so the crac goes

  6. Agreed jay Jay – I am not saying sell him now – but I am not a fan of his at the mo – vastly over rated – worryingly – in his own mind as well as many fans

  7. This club is going no futher under Mike Ashley.
    No signings at all this window you heard it here first.
    He is not willing to risk a single penny more when he can get us in the Premier for free or so he thinks.
    This is another massive gamble from a man who knows nothing about football. Let me know when he is gone.
    If he sells and doesn’t replace expect a major up-rising in this city to remove him.

  8. Eastender the major uprising to remove him is the nust, who haven’t got a clue so don’t be too hopeful mate

  9. Players will be sold as the window closes shut….”Er we had no time for replacements”
    Blah Blah zzzzzzzzzz
    I expect more converts to that Hate Ashley and Owl Heed Club come February.

  10. lads i have faith in mike but how can you’s expect him to splash the cash after all the abuse he gets. dont forget the song you’s sing to him get out of our club you fat cockney barstewart but you want him to bank roll it at the sametime strange way to go about getting him to spend his money

  11. Expect nothing under this regime and remember to be grateful :)
    Listen my Hatred runs deep…very deep,all Mike has to do is stop talking shit,appoint an experienced football candidate to replace Owl Heed,Communicate and build some sort of rapport with the community,stop asset stripping and interfering with our history and heritage and buy some good players.

    Not asking for miracles or £20 million pound trophy signings just steady progression,a sense of building,moving forwards instead of backwards.

  12. Moondust

    That fact that he bought a football club suggests that he does know a thing or two about the game and the fans, so to say that he wont spend money because the fans give him grief when he pretty much single handedly ruined a great club is very rich! Its the very least he can do if he has any decency!

  13. MOONDUST does make a valid point, however I don’t think it would make much difference if we hated him or not. His wallet would still be shut for transfer money in my opinion. He has been intent on trimming us down since he has been here really.

  14. i agree SJT!
    Although being in the championship isn’t great, the fact that we are progressing towards being a PL team again does have a sense of achievement linked to it and that alone should prove that continuous steady progress will keep the fans happy!

  15. sjt > Expect nothing under this regime and remember to be grateful
    Listen my Hatred runs deep…very deep,all Mike has to do is stop talking shit,appoint an experienced football candidate to replace Owl Heed,Communicate and build some sort of rapport with the community,stop asset stripping and interfering with our history and heritage and buy some good players.

    then will you except him and the mistakes he has made ?

    nathandio > That fact that he bought a football club suggests that he does know a thing or two about the game and the fans

    does that mean you cant read ? as he has stated before that he didnt know anything about owning a club and that he has made bad mistakes

  16. Peter Lovenkrands’ dad has died, and he’s flown back to Denmark. Gotta feel for the guy, but atleast his Dad saw him bag a hat trick before he went eh.

  17. If I am brutally honest if Mike got the basics right and showed that he was here for the long haul my opinions would probably change.

    I have seen very little positivity since he took over at the helm to suggest he has any intention of changing his ways or making NUFC successful.

  18. Ross says:
    January 16, 2010 at 3:41 pm
    anyone see the mackems are down 4-0 at chelsea after 40 minutes?, hilarious.

    At that rate the great unwashed will concede 9 goals by full time.

  19. SJT – The negativity only really started over Keegan leaving and all that fiasco.

    The one thing that i think he fails to realise is that he has an exceptional and free opportunity to build a bridge with the fans in the shape of PR and communication. Do you remember his open letter the very first time the club was on the market under him? That set out his plan and how the club was doing, more of that would go a long way to not alienating the fans.

    As for being here for the long haul, would you stay somewhere your not wanted? Would you splash loads of money on transfers only to be called a fat cockney barsteward at every game?

    Off topic: Sunderland are doing well :)

  20. devonmag I just hope his Dad did get to see him score his hat-trick.

    MOONDUST then will you except him and the mistakes he has made ?
    if he came out and told us that he is going to try to turn it round and get a good football man in to run things I think I would except him, better the devil you know

  21. Hugh-we can hope. I’m confident chelski can stick in another 2 or 3 in the second half. A real thumping would brighten up my weekend.

  22. We shouldn’t be worried about how Forest are doing, so long as we match them and keep winning our own games.
    SJT, surely that is exactly what Ashley is doing. The team are doing good and the finances are being controlled, what more can we expect. It’s the PR stuff that is the bugbear but he aint saying much at present so he may even be getting better at that, a trip to Las Vegas notwithstanding.

  23. i will be furious if we sell carroll ! Yes hes not the finished article however hes an under 21 international, a geordie who loves the club, been man o the match on a number of occasions this season and is a grafter. Stardust’s opinions defy belief. !
    There again stardust hates stephen taylor. . Stardust has shown his distaste for the ordinary geordie fan and it is clear now why he hates taylor and carroll. . What a horrible creep he is. .

  24. geordie deb says:
    January 16, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    “Hilarious Blunderland hammered 7-2”

    It’s almost a Chelsea reserve eleven too with them having players like Drogba, Essien, Mikel and Kalou away in Angola ATM.

  25. I wouldn’t mind us letting him go if we could get 4m or so for him. That’d help bring in Beckford and leave us with some change.

    Lovenkrands, Beckford, Ameobi, Ranger – wouldn’t be such a bad list of options.

  26. I see that Kieron Dyer is thinking of quitting playing, it’s a shame he had so much baggage and so many injuries when he was with us. He could have been a real legend with the Geordie fans and could have made such a difference to us as a team. He was magic when he was fit and playing well, another if only!!

  27. Big Willy @ 40 agree with you about Dyer but in some ways I sort of feel sorry for him. He could have been a real cracker IF ONLY as you say.

    Worky I never even thought about all their players that are away lol ;) that makes it even sweeter

  28. There is a couple of people on ED Harrisons blog claiming they have seen Nobby Solano training with the team at the training ground . Cant be for real can they ?

  29. the lack of trust in mike ashley goes back further than the kevin keegan fiasco,which by the way mike ashley brought keegan to the club,MIKE ASHLEY BROUGHT KEEGAN TO THE CLUB.
    there hasn,t been one iota of stability at this football club,from day one of ashley,s tenure.
    the first couple of months under him,everything was up in the air,chris mort never seemed to know what was going on.chris stated that big sam,s job was safe,yet the very next day he was sacked.
    in those months leading up until that xmas there was a story leaked every week about ashley wanting to sell the club,i seem to remember a story about him trying to sell us for 400 million to an american firm,this was before keegan came back to the club.
    sam allardyce could never get a hold of ashley,to talk about moving the club forward.
    the club,s been drifting from day one under ashley,i dont blame him for everything as the hall,s had done us in before ashley turned up.
    i just dont think mike ashley done nearly enough to turn the club around,his tenure has been shabby to say the least,and this season i,m sick and tired of the geordie jingoism that is used by the regime to try and get people onside.
    even chris hughton is at it,llambias in the match programme talking about a club to be proud of,yeah right derek under your shambles.
    how dare these people tell us to get behind the team,when that is all we ever do.
    hughton doing his impression of barack obama trying to fend of questions regarding this dubious regime.
    i,m also sick and tired of the fake backslapping,that going around the club,were in the trampionship ffs.
    it was this regime that tried their level best to put us there with two seasons of total and utter amateur leadership.

  30. Oh Batty!

    Hope you didn’t lose too much money on that stupid treble today.

    Told you Forest would win and Liverpool would draw.

    Told you I was not often wrong too.


  31. oh spew79!

    i see batty was telling you a few home truth’s today.

    i remember when you were one of the lads.

    but since stardust has completed his work on you – your nothing but a shallow hal.

  32. Aye if ya like Royston.

    Ashley’s still a prick and I want him gone, but that won’t happen untiul we get promotion, and even then I’m not too sure he’ll manage it.

    But hey ho, that’s life.

  33. spew – stay with me – i can bring you back from the other side , but you have to stop mixing with the ashley apologists.

  34. why is it that ashley has backstabbed everybody he,s reached out to for help to run the club,allardyce,keegan,shearer probably hughton in time.
    well not allardyce as much,but why does he ask for help from thes people then screw them over?he seems to me to be a complete user.

  35. The only one of that lot he could be accused of backstabbing was Keegan and that was more the people he employed to run the club than Ashley himself.

  36. TROJAN 69 says:
    January 16, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    “rangerman, so do you not think alan shearer was treated badly by ashley and co?”

    How do you think he was treated badly, Trojan?

  37. good lad stuart – now onto toonsy , but then again i think that could be a bridge to far.

    welcome back stu

  38. TROJAN – “he seems to me to be a complete user.”

    Possibly not far of the mark, and possibly a contributing reason to how he made so much money in the first place. If you get something for free in business, take it!

    A bit like the story of him relocating the Sports Direct warehouse! Sentiments don’t hold a high regard with him it seems.

  39. workyticket says:
    January 16, 2010 at 6:25 pm
    Stuart79 says:
    January 16, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    “I’m coming Roy!”

    That’s what Hayley said to him last night, Stuart.

    You mean Harold…

  40. Roy – What have I done now? :)

    I’m not an Ashley apologist, far from it, I just think that without his money at the moment, the club would be in administration at the very least. I’d rather have my home town team and grin and bear Ashley than not have my team at all.

  41. well he was left dangling on a string for months,nobody from the club had the decency,to contact him to let him know what was going on.
    i know people will cite the supposed sale of the club,as being a factor,but the sale of the club was pure fantasy imo.
    you dont go from selling the club one minute to a plan of action at the drop of a hat.
    i see mikey boy is still banging on about his scoreboard for nearly three year,still haven,t got it.
    worky this regime are con men imo,i just cannot see anything but lies and backtracking for nearly three years.

  42. No not really, Shearer came in as caretaker but done nothing to avoid our relegation, he said he wanted the job on his terms but without knowing what they are then how can you accuse Ashley of using him?

  43. Stuart79 says:
    January 16, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    “I’m coming Roy!”

    And with that comment, the thread turns into an episode of On The Busses/A Carry On film :)

  44. Stuart79 says:
    January 16, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    “I’m not into transexuals Royston sorry.”

    It’s surprising how many men are but would never admit to it. I have a story that the media would absolutely die for, but I’d never tell.

  45. Why? I don’t think my opinions have changed. I still get pissed off when we lose or draw, I still dislike Ashley, I’m still not too fond of NUST.

  46. Hmm, interesting Worky. Your “story” about someone else, these erotic mens photos – one of which you put on this.

    It’s adding up…. :D

  47. rangerman,mouriniho wouldn,t have kept us up ffs we were not good enough simple as that.
    ashley wanted shearer as manager until he asked for a few bob,then he was out of the window.
    you have to share ashley,s shoe string view of the future to get on in his organisations.

  48. toonsy get over ya’sel – you & spew are like to peas in a pod – ashley’s little workers

  49. Roy Cropper says:
    January 16, 2010 at 6:37 pm
    toonsy get over ya’sel – you & spew are like to peas in a pod – ashley’s little workers

    Rather that than being Harolds little wa*ker.

  50. Trojan – Get over it. Shearer was in position number 1 sat across the table from Ashley for 2 days. It was in Ashleys interests to appoint him – but something happened in the interview that meant Ashley couldnt appoint him. (I believe made demands the club couldnt afford) Once Ashley couldnt appoint him his position was untenable and he had to list the club for sale.

    Your hero blew it.

  51. stardust,i dont deal in heroes,shearer was a good striker,but as a man he,s a merchant banker.
    i just think in the profesional sense he was treated shabbily.

  52. well i,m off to get hammered,no doubt there will be a trail of insults,when i view this at a later date.

  53. Stardust says:
    January 16, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    This is the problem with you.

    You belive that’s what happened and you won’t accept the possibility that something else happened. For all we know he might have met Shearer and said “I’m sorry Alan I can’t apoint you because I’m selling the club.”

    Nobody knows for ssure and I believe Shearer deserves a lot more respect from the club and the fans than Ashley does, so you siding with Ashley constantly over this episode is bizarre and says quite a lot about how you feel about certain people who have served the club well for years.

  54. Trojan – as I say – he had his chance – and to be fair he was even lucky to be considered for the job as from what I saw those last 8 games he didnt motivate anyone.

    That aside – I appreciate updates throughout the sale would have been respectful but maybe just maybe he had totally burned his bridges in those meetings.

    So without knowing what went on in its entirety we cant comment on whether or not he was shabbily treated.

  55. Stardust is anti Geordie. Doesn’t like Carroll. Doesn’t like Taylor. Doesn’t like Shearer. I can see a pattern emerging.

  56. Stuart – its hilarious – little Royston gives you a little stick and you try and fire lines at me.

    Please have some backbone – be a man – stand up to him – you dont have to be a victim.

    I respected the football player Alan Shearer – he is an egotist fact – and egotists in this era do not make good managers or negotiators.

  57. Stardust,

    He is egotistical, but which sucessful people aren’t?

    But you said it in comment 82, nobody knows what happened in that meeting so we don’t know whther he was treated shabbily and we don’t know whether Shearer demanded this, that and the other.

    You like facts – The fact is nobody accept Shearer, Ashley and Llambias knows what happened so you, me and everbody else on here are just speculating.

  58. workyticket says:
    January 16, 2010 at 7:06 pm

    Disagree. Most successful people have drive, commitment, single mindedness and that means they want to be the best – That’s egotistical in it’s self.

    I don’t believe there’s anything wrong with that personally.

    But there will be the exeption to the rule but most ‘greats’ are like that.

    They may try to come across as totally different (like Shearer) but privately their driven by their ego.

  59. Stuart79 says:
    January 16, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    “Disagree. Most successful people have drive, commitment, single mindedness and that means they want to be the best – That’s egotistical in it’s self.”

    No it isn’t, Stuart.

  60. You can have an exceptional desire to ensure that you be the best you can be – but it shouldn’t be looked upon as egotistical.

  61. Oh and Worky, before you start spouting the Oxford I’m not talking about the actual definition of the word.

    I’m doing a bit of word association.

  62. Andy,

    What I’m saying is that most very successful people are that determined to be the best that their not bothered about anything or anyone else – Only themselves and what they do.

  63. I do understand that Stuart and in a lot of cases that does apply. Shearer seems a bit like that to me.

    But then again there is the ones who aren’t like yet still have reached the very top of their profession, a certain Sir Bobby, anyone?

  64. Stuart79 says:
    January 16, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    “Disagree. Most successful people have drive, commitment, single mindedness and that means they want to be the best – That’s egotistical in it’s self.”

    Stuart, the greatest manager in this country was Bob Paisley. In only nine years of management, he won six leagues and THREE European cups, along with other trophies too. He wasn’t egotistical. Our greatest postwar Prime Minister was Clement Attlee. He created miracles after one of the two greatest periods of trauma this country has ever seen, he wasn’t egotistical. Would you like more examples?

    Frequently, the most successful people of all are very humble indeed.

  65. Fair enough mate good point. Although if there’s many exceptions to a rule, it kind of makes it void!

    On a side note, if Spurs, Preston and Cardiff hadn’t of let me down today, I would have been £15K up off a fiver!

  66. Actually Stuart – successful people are simply that people – they vary. Some are egotistical, some have too much arrogance etc but thats life – you dont have to be successful to have these traits. Often success festers a self belief that can be overwhelming if the person isnt grounded or secure. But there are as many down to earth decent successful people as anything else. I deal with them every day – your comment has as much grounds as racism.

  67. @Trojan 69

    You sum Ashley’s reign up perfectly on post 43.

    Stardust continues to fly the flag of Ashley. Well all I can say, the NUFC flag has been flying at half mast since he took over.

    Stardust is the hater of the common person, but the truth is, he is one himself and he hates himself for it.

    Oh Mr and Mrs Stardust, why did you bray your little brat when he was young and knocked some working class values into him.

  68. Stuart79 says:
    January 16, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    “Like I said, there’s always exeptions to every rule.”

    More examples. Warren Buffett and Bill Gates (and Paul Allen too) are two of the world’s most successful businessmen, they are all richer than Croesus. They have both been fiecely competitive in business, but would you describe them personally as loudmouthed egotists, Stuart?

  69. You these people do you Worky?

    Refer to comment 96.

    Also Sir Alex Ferguson would probably have something to say about you outragous comment about Paisley.

    Most of the greatest actors/actresses, most of the greatest musicians, most of the greatest sportsmen are/were the same.

    Paul Mcartney, Brian Clough, Fergie, Marilyn Monroe, Gary Sobers and many more.

    People who were/are famously difficult to get along with due to their obsession with being the greatest. In public, their nice, in private there true colours are shown.

    There are many, many more.

  70. halfpint harry @ 98 , 3 let you down that’s not even close to a winning bet so dont come on here bragging about shit – stick to the fizzy pop soft lad.

  71. Succesful people think their the best, they have to think their the best.

    I don’t know anyone who’s succesful who is weak, shy, inward and lacking confidence.

  72. Stuart79 says:
    January 16, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    “I don’t know anyone who’s succesful who is weak, shy, inward and lacking confidence.”

    At least two of the examples I mentioned above, Bill Gates and Paul Allen were very shy and inward. Many of the successful people that I know are like that too. It takes all sorts, Stuart.

  73. Roy Cropper @ 105 that was funny :) didn’t think you were the witty type Roy, thats what happens when you knock around with Batty ?

  74. Speaking of If Onlys, Keegan was a pundit on ESPN today, I don’t know why but I just cannot like the man, I think his ego is (and always was) more than his ability. I think I’d still feel the same even if he had managed to pull off the EPL title and I do feel his recent actions against the club (even if they had some justification) were selfishly motivated.
    On a different note Everton looked really classy today with Felaini outstanding for them, I was also impressed with Donovan, there must be some other Yanks looking to do ten weeks in England!

  75. Speaking of Sir Alan, one of my clients is a flying instructor and Sir A trains with the Company the person teaches for, this person reckons he is a real arrogant so and so. I aint entioning the gender of the person just in case it gets back to Sir A somehow.

  76. Right I’m off to kill some monsters and drown some kittens in NW2 for a couple of hours then watch Heroes so I will probably look back at the blog after midnight.

  77. good idea big willy – you never know who’s reading worky’s blog especially with the likes of spew79 posting spellbinding comments , he draws fans in from every corner of the world.

  78. big willy , take batty with a large pinch of salt….he doesn’t mean all he say’s , i can vouch for him …. he’s my business partner.

  79. batty , i haven’t got time these day’s , there’s just not nuff hours in the day m8 ….. anyway i’ll catch up at the market the moz m8 …. i’ve got some gen that might interest you.

  80. So whats up with Ed. Harrison ?
    Guys churning shit out at an unprecedented rate.
    So is it going to be a numbers game ?
    See who comes out on top with hits ?
    Can we have a poll
    Doocey, Ed. or Woikey ?
    Who is the most ego driven ?