Newcastle v Blackburn – Match banter!

Posted on November 10th, 2010 | 322 Comments |

A big welcome to Blackburn Rovers!
A big welcome to Blackburn Rovers!
Newcastle welcome Blackburn Rovers and their travelling support to St James’ Park for this evenings 7:45pm kick-off.

I dare say that the same warm welcome won’t be extended to Blackburn’s current boss, Sam Allardyce, who returns to his former employers for the first time since Mike Ashley gave him the boot.

Newcastle are in a fine run of form at the moment and will be looking to build on three consecutive wins by grabbing all the points tonight as they set about ensuring that the club remains safe and benefits from another season of Premier League football next year. In contrast, Blackburn have been in poor form having not won a game in the month of October, but they managed to stop the rot last weekend when they beat Wigan in a 2-1 victory at Ewood Park.

Big Sam has been strring the pot somewhat as he prepares to play the role of party pooper this evening, and he seems keen to put a bit of pressure on Chris Hughton by pointing out his record whilst he was managing on Tyneside. Allardyce said;

“I got 17 points from my first 11 when I was there. Then it slipped away slightly and the decision was made.”

Now let me clear this up whilst I’m on my soapbox. Allardyce’s points haul didn’t just ‘slip away’. He may have got seventeen points from eleven games, but then he went on to back that up with just nine points from his next twelve matches, playing a brand of football that went nowhere near masking the results. His win ratio, including cup games, was 33% during his time with us.

In contract, Chris Hughton has worked wonders since he was appointed as manager, and his winning ratio currently stands at roughly 60%. I think that about sums Allardyce up for me!

Anyway, if you want to read a bit more in depth news regarding injuries for both sides, possible team selection, form and stats then please feel free to have a ponder over my match preview.

The game is scheduled for overseas broadcasting, so if you’re aware of any good streams and would like to share them with your fellow Newcastle United fans then please feel free to leave a link in the ‘comments’ section.

Hopefully Newcastle can continue playing well and extend their winning run, and getting one over on Sam Allardyce would be a nice little bonus aswell!

Howay the lads!

Newcastle – Tim Krul, Danny Simpson, Mike Williamson, Fabricio Coloccini, Jose Enrique, Joey Barton, Cheick Tiote, Kevin Nolan, Jonas Gutierrez, Andy Carroll, Shola Ameobi.

Subs – Ole Soderberg, Sol Campbell, Steven Taylor, Alan Smith, Wayne Routledge, Peter Lovenkrands, Nile Ranger.

Blackburn -Paul Robinson, Michel Salgado, Chris Samba, Ryan Nelsen, Gael Givet, Pascal Chimbonda, Brett Emerton, Phil Jones, Morten Gamst Pedersen, David Hoilett, Nikola Kalinic.

Subs – Mark Bunn, David Dunn, El Hadj Diouf, Herold Goulon, Jason Roberts, Grant Hanley, Mame Biram Diouf.

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  11. CC @ 9 – It’s actually a back 5 with a DM in front to protect it. Highly ambitious. Real madrid like…..

  12. defo the team the gaffa confirmed that there wont be any change to his winning combination. If we win and man utd win we are 4. Wonder what big sam will say if we do win… 2-1 to the toon with shola scoring first goal. Carroll and simpson for england.

  13. The Players must take note of this 3 BRFC players

    Morten Gamst Pedersen

    Brett Emerton

    Nikola Kalinic.

    ;) Off to bed and sleep. HWTL….7-0 to Newcastle. :lol:

  15. Toonsy

    Emerton can also play full back so if their under pressure he could slip Chimbonda inside and move Emerton to left back and play Jones as a sweeper, We could witness a 7-2-1 system…

  16. “Now let me clear this up whilst I’m on my soapbox. Allardyce’s points haul didn’t just ’slip away’. He may have got seventeen points from eleven games, but then he went on to back that up with just nine points from his next twelve matches, playing a brand of football that went nowhere near masking the results. His win ratio, including cup games, was 33% during his time with us.”

    That game against Derby was the worst. I felt like slitting my eyes after watching that.

  17. lob it forward. I wonder what hoots has been training the players this week after his master stroke at the week end

  18. lads they are playing 7 defenders what a joke..going for a point..if we score early could be anything.

  25. CC says:
    November 10, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    “Off topic but Blackpool have made ten changes…”

    Paul the psychic football octopus’s cousin has signed for Blackpool as their eight tentacled Nostradamus, maybe he had some input into that decision?

  26. CC says:
    November 10, 2010 at 7:17 pm

    We could witness a 7-2-1 system…
    ————–
    If that’s the case they should kick old Sam out of the league

  28. I just hope the Lads are up for a hard old scrap tonight as I think it could be a bit of a hard game with very few chances, but if we can sneak one early we could go on to give them a good old hammering

  30. MDS…you around…my discipline has left the building…will be following this on Sky Sports Score Centre…
    I am still recording the game to watch later, but I am too eager to wait for results.

  31. HWTL!

    Thanks for the links posted earlier, I shall give them a go.

    My prediction is 4-2 to the Mags, Toon to go 3-0 up after an early barrage with Barton, Williamson and Jose netting before half time. Second half see’s us take our feet off the gas and punished by two Blackburn goals, 3-2. In the 70th minute Ranger is brought on, and seals the win minutes later by smashing in our 4th to put the game to bed.

    HWTL, don’t give Fat Sam any reason to gloat about how great he is and how he did a fantastic job at SJP.

  32. Blackburn fan here – we’re playing 3-5-2, lets hope for a good game lads, fook the Manc derby this is where the big game is

  33. NorCal ToonFan says:
    November 10, 2010 at 7:35 pm
    MDS…you around…my discipline has left the building…will be following this on Sky Sports Score Centre…
    I am still recording the game to watch later, but I am too eager to wait for results.

    ————————–

    Nope- just checking in this last time then I’m off. Got a couple mettings then will be home at 5pm for replay. Just hoping I can avoid checking my phone! enjoy

  34. NorthernPaul BSA never needed an excuse to gloat or think he is god he is just a natural big heeded basket :)
    Lads any stream up and going yet ?

  39. Aye Telt ye’s we were due a stinker!!!

    Fat Sam aswell and his crap spoilers.

    Tiote, can’t believe that. :(

  40. Well according to the brilliant BBC write up, in 3 minutes we’ve given away 3 free kicks and conceded a goal. Their updates are pretty shoddy.

  42. in other news:

    GOAL! Rangers 0-1 Hibs. Alan McGregor has had a nightmare in the Gers goal, Liam Miller’s strike bamboozling him and finding its way into the back of the net. The Scottish international should have done better there.

    Whoooo~~CC….

  44. Big Dave – browser says it needs a plug in but not certain to trust it – how is yours running?

  45. I’m using the same stream as Big Dave, streams good, game less so. Plug-in seems fine, you can always uninstall it.

  47. vshare’s alright, although it installs a toolbar.

    Also, is this the same defence that played Le Arse?
    We’ve come from behind a couple of times this season though, lets hope we can do it again

  48. What happened with Tiote? None of the video links are working for me and I can’t even find a radio link. Was he doing his 90 degree turns and gave the ball away?

  49. Tom McGowan:
    GOAL! Rangers 0-2 Hibs. The shock is on at Ibrox! A wonderful individual effort from John Rankin, curling in a right-footed shot.

    WHOA, CC is good. ;)

  50. beatski sometimes I think we need a good kick in the ass when we’re playing the teams around us. So hopefully the goal will do that ;)

  52. Ridiculous that you have to pay for the right to listen to the match on the official website like.

  53. yeah. Also, i agree with the commentator that we need to get more width, and with them pressing so much, we need to tire them out and put them to the sword later in the game.

  55. It might pay to get in for half time, I can see Blackburn doing to us what we did at Arsenal. Really don’t want that fat bstard to get the points because he has hard games coming up and they were strugglng before now. I can just see them frustrating us here like, ffs man why do they always do this.

  56. yeah, we’ll definatley need to step up our game if we want anything from the game.

    also, what’s with the “Error establishing a database connection” i keep getting on this site?

  58. Sounds like no-one is playing well, even Krul isn’t coming off his line properly.

    What did I say.. no-show.

  60. Dare I say it, they have us sussed? Everytime it goes out wide they have two men on either Barton or Jonas. We don’t have much through the middle and they know it.

  63. beatski says:
    November 10, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    “also, what’s with the “Error establishing a database connection” i keep getting on this site?”

    Has anyone else been getting this?

  68. And Tiote is booked for the foul, meaning a one-match ban as it’s his fifth of the season~~

    Bad. :(

  69. Tiote is suspended, get in, perfect f#### night eh. See toonsy. Winnable game my arse. Don’t take anything for granted mate.

  76. Their not gonna get owt from this man. They always underperform in these little nothing games. Cancels out all the good work in the more difficult games.

  78. Looks like we’re constantly using the flanks according to the BBC, crossing regularly. How is the delivery?

  80. Update on Tiote, apparently he has only been booked four times, so is not suspended on Saturday.

  81. I was worried this would happen! Just hope 2nd half is better, I want routledge on and get some pace and run at them

  82. We need some more width and some better passing in the center IMO, and Tiote’s having a mare.

    Tiote off for Routledge, and shift Barton into the center.

  84. icedog says:
    November 10, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    “i am too WORKY every re-fresh like”

    Everyone,

    Let me know how it goes on. I’m going to have to put the site on a new server to sort this out once and for all.

  85. The good thing and bad thing for Fatty is that they’ve got half time to go and sort their heads out and wake up a bit. Well looks like complacency has well and trully set in.

  86. Should we get forefit the game at halftime so? In all seriousness tho we do not perform agaisnt these physical sides i dont know why , but seems we r coming back into this game , so hopefully we can get a point out of this

  88. Gola blasts over the bar from inside the box. And Howay lads, we’ve got 45 minutes left to play. Granted I havent seen or heard anything of the game but we’re only 1 down. We were 2 down against Wigan and pulled it back, have faith.

  90. Occasionally worky, no big deal like, just refresh again and everything is ok, have patience, we have time to turn things around.

  92. Ross

    I haven’t seen anything either m8, sounds like another cack performance against another cack team.

  93. I’d also still call this a winnable game. It’s fricking Blackburn, not AC Milan.

    Tiote may aswell stay on. He has been booked, so it’s no loss if he gets red as he will be banned anyway.

    Blackburn ar hassling us everytime we get the ball.

  94. DJG-All i’ve got is the BBC live updater thing which is rubbish. We’ve had more of the possession and seemed to be coming into it towards the latter stages of the first half though. Can anyone tell me what Tiote did with regards to the goal!? lol

  95. tryed to play it out the box when he had a simple pass to jose or jonas, three jumped on him forced him into the mistake and scored, Shocking.

  96. We are struggling due to them being parked on the edge of their own box every time we cross the half way line

  98. there no point beating Arsenal if we’re gonna play like this against fat heed. ffs im so pis### off. I knew it aswell. Hughtons too much of a nice guy, get the f#### hair dryer out.

  99. Toonsy-Not more of his 90 degree turns was it? I was saying the other day that’s going to go wrong eventually like..

  100. I think CH will give them shit in the dressing room and hopefully they will come out fired up a bit. I do worry for Tiote as I think if he carries on the way he was he will be off he seems too fired up, prob trying to make up for his mistake for the goal.
    I really dont think they can blame the crowd as I haven’t heard them doing owt wrong, the players just seem to have forgot its a match and not a kick about

  105. jay jay says:
    November 10, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    “Occasionally worky, no big deal like, just refresh again and everything is ok,”

    This is one of the things I have to sort out, jay jay. The site will be moving on to a better server btween now and January, and stuff like this should be a thing of the past.

    My apologies for the problems.

  114. I wouldnt risk Tiote getting us down to ten men, which sounds likely, Switch Barton inside and bring on Routledge to run at the slow fekkers. We don’t need Tiote for them anyway. It will be hard though they will be like us in second half at the arse we need some luck and skill here like, I think IF, IF we score they will still sit back………

    Ranger on for Shola.

  115. and fairly high up on the list of ‘phrases i hate to hear’ is “a tactical masterclass from Sam Allardyce”.

  129. Avatar is a bloody riot at the minute like. Is anyone watching the Manc derby? Someone headed on goal and it went wrong, Andy Gray piped up with

    “..Well, it wasn’t exactly Andy Carroll was it”. He’s now seemingly the benchmark for strikers heading the ball in the PL

  131. give them the service, our strikers will score goals.

    Barton to Carroll, GET THE F*CK IN SON!!!

  137. Got a feeling we should throw Smith on for Tiote , this is the sort of game smith can still do a job in and for some stupid reason i think he will get the equaliser . No i am not drunk or drugged up its just a weird feeling this could be the game he scores in .

  140. hahahaha did he just dig him in the ribs?

    the ref hasn’t seen it so means the FA can take action, doesn’t it?

    ohh Joey, just seen it again, silly boy

  142. What’s Barton doin man, tryin to get himself sent off?*
    I thought he was calming himself down, 10 men is the last thing we need.

    *get in there barton, i f**kin hate pedersen

  144. What the feck is Barton thinking, he was starting to win people round too, that won’t help.

  146. Barton, Barton. Can’t beleive he is still doing that kind of thing. retro ban!? n’ kiss goodbye to your england return doing things like that.. what an acehole.

  152. 2058: Not nice from Joey Barton, the Newcastle midfielder – off the ball – pushing Morten Gamst Pedersen to the ground. Not spotted by referee Michael Jones, will the FA look back at that?

  153. Steve_48 says:
    November 10, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    “Come on lads tell me how it happened please, cannot get any streams going tonight”

    Great ball in by Barton, Carroll lost Samba and headed stright in the net, Steve.

  155. Look lads cut Barton some slack, he’s done well so far, has ridden many a challenge you cannot expect him to play as he has forevermore, he’s bound to react at some stage like this, leopards and spots anyone?

  162. Sorry Ross am blind here as cannot get any stream going and am relying on you guys for commentary

  164. I think Joey was just trying to swat a big spider that was on Peterson thats all :)
    DJG @ 149 try getting a colour monitor mate the blue gives it away :lol:

  167. If he’s just forcefully pushed him and hasn’t literally punched him, there’s a big difference.

  169. seriously boys get over it – was nowt more then a prod in the ribs and pedderson went down like a ton o bricks – fook all in it

  170. If we score and win, it puts us 4 points clear of Bolton in 6th place, instead of one one win away from 6th – HTL

  174. toonsy-Early mistake dented his confidence like? He’s also on a yellow, nervous about keeping it at only that?

  179. Not looking good for West Ham, looks like we’ll only need to fight to other teams to stay up now, fingers crossed

  182. SS saying we’re nipping the ball about nicely and look confident, say Enrique has been brilliant again?

  183. toonsy even the best have an off day , believe me Tiote in his next game will be back to his best . The lad has real belief in himself

  184. Bring on Smudger and give Tiote a break ready for Sat . Not doing my heart any good this . Come on Lads . HWTL

  200. hate to say I telt ya so but..

    mugs, thats what we are against the ‘lesser’ ‘winnable’ teams.

    I feel like such a mug for buying a ticket for Fulham now.

  206. Just leaving the ground, hope I miss a goal.

    The word predictable was meant for us tonight. Couldn’t understand why we kept hittibg crosses in against the best defence in the air in the league.

  207. Can’t help but think these home defeats are going to bite us on the arse please tell me I am wrong

  208. Ross

    It was the sort of ball into the centre that 10 times out of 10 the centre half blasted away. But tonight they just haven’t turned up or shown enough respect m8.

  210. Ice wait till ye see the sh1te he comes out with after this.
    But tbh we dont deserve anything and its so annoying the way we do it, I said that I was afraid that the players wouldn’t be up for it against the lesser teams

  211. Cant believe we’ve lost to that lot like. They’re our bogey team. 5 straight wins for them at SJP.

    SSN saying we’ll hear about the incident involving Barton without a doubt. Ref didn’t see it but camera’s did.

  213. Stuart #204 We did the same thing against Stoke, and I was just baffled with that, and we have the players to play along the ground. Dont understand it.

  219. A load of s***. we didn’t deserve owt, and we aren’t going to stay in the top half anyway so don’t worry bout
    moving down to 6th. We must play better at home but the facts are we are the best away team in the league

  220. One hoof ball and both centre halfs cock up. Colo let’s it bounce and Williamson is barged easily. Sucker punch and silly goal to concede, but typical of the way Blackburn have beaten us over the years.

    Teams like this defend well against us as our strengths are what they are good at defending. Blackburn are like us, they struggle with clever movement and trickery in the final third, but give them a cross to defend and they will do it 9 times out of 10.

    Disappointed, but ah well. This will bring us back down to earth and it’s Fulham next.

    No Tiote and Barton will be banned. Time for Smith and Guthrie to step up.

  221. Trouble is we have only plan A and not the players yet to have a plan B . Benny would have made a difference . However back down to earth . Remember mid table will do at the end of the season . Long way to go but it sure is tight in this league .

  223. Disgusting game and disgusting result and even more disgusting Fat f*ck Allardyce and his smile on his face, horrible.

  224. People can say what they like about C.H after the 3 wins but.. Im yet to be convinced about the home form, which apart from 2 games has been shocking. Especially after last seasons home form. Im gonna ring sky and try to pursuade them to put more of our games on the telly coz if is a cold wed night at SJP against a sh!te hopeless Fat Heed team they can’t get a point. Yes they were up for Sunderland, wow. Big deal the rest of the home games have been a big dissapointment for the average fan who turns up to a ‘normal’ game and expects at least a performance. You said, ‘we are managing expectaions, but what these fans what is a performance every game and to see the players giving their all’. Sorry hoots but your not fooling anyone at the minute mate.

  226. DJG

    You are being far too harsh. Blackburn had 6 defenders on the pitch and spent 75% of the game camped behind the ball hoping to get a few chances and take them. They did, it worked, we lost. This was a very similar game to Stoke because we struggle against teams like this. Big, physical and organised. You find me a newly promoted side with a plan B and I will take my words back, but the simple fact is we/the newly promoted sides don’t yet have the squad to mix it up and switch our style of play. It doesn’t matter though because there are more footballing sides than hoof-ball sides. Therefore we will accumulate enough points to keep us up and in mid-table, which always has been our goal.

  227. Ah well, never mind.

    We’re still doing okay so no need to panic. We really need to start picking up points at home though, no doubt about that.

  228. The f”’ing frustrating thing is that I knew all along, Big fat fu’ker would have a gay kiddy porn smile on his face at the end, thats why I bought a ticket for Fulham, at least they might show a response for my game get in, doubt it tho. Fact remains we are sh!te at home against average teams, forget about away and sort it out Hughton, the media may be saying you the best thing since sliced bread but the fact is you’ve still got a lot to learn, Allardyce KNEW your starting ‘winning’ 11 and prepared for it exactly, if you had started with Routledge, Ranger and Jonas wide and ran at the awld saggy fekkers I don’t think he would have know what to do. Like I say, I didnt get carried away like some and Im a long way from convinced, schoolboy errors tonight hoooooooten. toot toot.

  229. Onwards and upwards, lads.

    I am very disappointed with Barton. What a stupid thing to do. His record and the fact that Huddlestone got away with his recent violent conduct will conspire to see Joey handed a 3 match ban. Fulham will be rubbing their hands together with glee when they see both Tiote and Barton missing from our starting line-up.

    Now is the real test of our character.

  230. I hope the doom and gloom squad dont kick in after this. We’re still 5th and we were due a stinker,no need to panic, its just annoying that it was at home…again, thats all.

  231. DJG you’re a joke mate. Look at the commments you were making last night about us “being back where we belong” now you’re saying your not convinced with chris. Get a grip you fickle fcuk

  234. DJG you’re a joke mate. Look at the commments you were making last night about us “being back where we belong” now you’re saying your not convinced with chris. Get a grip you fickle fcuk!

  236. Yes now im not convinced at all, I also said today that we wouldn’t turn up coz its not on the telly and its against a lesser side, right there wasn’t I.

  238. Blackpool – 0 point
    West Brom – 1 point
    West Ham – 1 point
    Wigan – 0 point
    Wolves – 0 point
    Brimingham – 0 point

    …Not a bad week to drop points really.

  239. ok we were piss poor. blah
    so what, its not the end of the world…..yet.
    Lets face it we all new this was on the cards.
    Big fat sam not so dumb as we’d like to think.
    His boring plan was better than ours tonight.
    move on.

  240. Fck me! Can you get away season tickets?

    Someone mentioned we only had a plan A, well I agree. The chances are teams will cotton on to us, pretty much like Blackburn. Did.

    Two fck ups in defence cost us but in general most players were on another planet. No movement, no ball control and no chances.

    But hey ho, all there again Saturday.

  241. DJG you’re typical of a little kk bummer. Fickle as fuck know nowt about real football. One bad result and u spit ur fcukin dummy

  242. Don’t be too downhearted.
    A bit frustration though.
    The lads need to respond from this and be well prepared for Fulham.

    The suit lost magic tonight :P

  243. Kin knew this would happen – just on my way back home after work and was unable to follow game – kin gutted I hate that fat fvck BSA but he’s done the job on us
    At least it gives us and the players a reality check – we need to get something against fulham at the weekend or I can see a slide down the table to where we all thought we’d be at beginning of season – we’ve now let in 16 goals in 12 games, so much for our rock solid defence ! Am telling ya sol needs to start to organise the defence – Williamson and collo don’t talk to any fvcker

  244. yees are right. We struggle against the battling sides, all the more frustrating considering we had a season of beating them most weeks last year. Ranger looks too green for me.

  245. DJG do you think we should sack hughton then? Seeing as your superior footballing brain is not convinced

  246. oh, well if we’re fifth, everything’s alright then. Still pushing for Europe ;)

    Hughton needs to work out how to set up our team to play effectively against these big, physical sides. Allardyce had clearly done his homework and we were playing into his hands. Still, I’m sure Jose Hughtiño will learn from this.

    Mind it was still two defensive errors that cost us really and not us being outplayed (mind, that’s what FS game plan counts on so we kind of were)

    Anyway what’s done is done, on to Fulham.

  247. Guys, get a grip! Teams have ALREADY cottoned on to us. We haven’t changed all season. It’s just that very few teams can ACTUALLY STOP US. The likes of Blackburn, Stoke can, but there aren’t many others.

  249. No one has ever said Hoots is a tactical mastermind. He is learning the job as he goes. And to be fair we lost this game on a couple of stupid errors by the players. I mean howay, Tiote has been great till tonight. First mistake and bang Goal. Christ. Also Barton has been putting in some great crosses and free kicks and corners, but not tonight. Is that Hoots’ fault?
    When we have had chances, we just dont take them well enough. Carrolls goal was a belter tho.
    Keep the faith.

  250. Deep breaths, deep breaths, :)

    Dip in form, completely expected.

    Carroll wonder header into top corner, no way he can’t now get selected without heavy critisism from england fans.

    3 points against Sparky’s Fulham and keep our lofty position, do-able why not.

    TC, don’t get so excited m8, it’s only my opinion, ye kna little awld me, aint gonna get your beloved Hoots the sack m8. ;)

  252. El toro pretty much hit nail on head – ultimately this team isn’t good enough to be in top half but are well enough – ultimately we need to survive this season which is the goal but eventually we need to buy class players or we’ll forever be fighting at the bottom for survival :(

  253. I really don’t think the lads weren’t up for some of your guys’s so call ‘lesser’ side just the plan wasn’t work and we got beat by sucker punch , everyteam capable to beat anyteam so don’t be arrogant.

    All along CH has drum it to the lads to not get carry away so I don’t think that the case and the lads gave all their efforts.

    anyway forget about this game and be ready for the next.

  255. We won’t make europe this season but surely everyone knew that – gutted about tonight but we’re still on course for survival which is this seasons goal – if we finish around mid table it’s a right result !

  258. As much as I dearly love to see us doing so well , I got some fear though.
    This season our priority should be just survival and build it from there ,otherwise if we do really really good the expectation will only increase and it might not be the best for us to build on if we can’t provide to those expectation.

    Let’s build the team from brick by brick.

  259. This is football, it’s a strange old game. Thats 5 straight wins at SJP for our bogey team. Will we still be Spurs bogey team this season, thats what I want to know.

  261. Wow we are still 5th coz of the game in hand, still though when looking down the table, we are on 17 points the teams on 16 and 15 points go down to 14th. Points dropped? …. Anything less than 3 points against Fulham will surely see us slip down the table.

  262. If we don’t beat Fulham we could be 14th on Sat night.

    Only looking at the points between us and the drop zone to be honest, that’s still healthy so its not too bad. Although if we’d have won just two more of our reasonably ‘easy’ home games we’d be Champ League positions now.

  263. Everyone had a feeling this would be the game in which the wheels came off, so to speak. It was always going to be someone like Fat Sham to spoil the party, with what is quite simply a team of bruisers. Fitting it would be them after we spent periods of the game at Arsenal beating one of the best passing teams in the world at their own game.
    Just have to look onto Fulham now, that’ll be a tough one. Given our home form I think a point is definitly acceptable.

  264. paedoson is a little shit.
    Skanks a free kick(shoulder charge), then scores from it.
    Winds up Barton, then crys like a baby. Barton shoulda just left it though, dumb ass.
    The shit skanks us every time he comes to SJP.
    Cheating little bastard.

  265. Just saw the goals. Another fantastic header from Carroll but what on earth was Tiote doing with the ball in the box there? Goes from hero to zero (not literally) inside 5 days. Should just be booting that. You can see when he falls to the floor with his head in hands he knows exactly what he’s done there. Guaranteed if thats Colo or Willo they’re putting it into row Z.
    Williamson also goes down under the challenge of Roberts for the second, dunno if he’s claiming a foul or what but he’s been beaten for strength sadly, it’s a chance and a goal made out of nothing.

    Nothing on the Barton issue though?

  266. Tiote got the ball caught up in his feet, hard luck on him. He’ll make amends.
    Willo was elbowed in the gut by roberts for the second.
    Great header by AC though.
    What a sickener!

  267. Clint-Granted Tiote got it caught inbetween his feet but he’s still trying to dribble the ball out a packed box. He’s looked v confident and assured with the ball at his feet since he arrived here but on the odd occasion has had hearts in mouth’s with just how comfortable he is. Went a bit pearshaped the night sadly.
    On the plus side Carroll is a monster in the air and will be a huge problem for any back four. If we could consistently deliver into the box from open play and especially set pieces, every single one of them is a genuine goalscoring opportunity when he’s on the field. Top notch like.

  268. Ross

    Agreed in regards to Tiote. He reminds me a lot of Enrique when he used to try and dribble out of every single situation. Enrique now only tries to dribble out of 95% of situations :lol:

  269. Ross,
    i think it was just a genuine mistake mate, there was no one to dribble past, he just couldn’t get it under control.
    Then it was too late.
    We NEED another option up top though.
    For all AC’s beastliness, it’s too 1 dimensional, too easy to read. We’ve gotta either play PL or get someone who can run off of AC.

  270. Sorry lads but am I having deja vu?

    Because when watching MOTD, it seemed as though a 50-50 challenge shoulder to shoulder resulted in a free kick – which they scored from. However, I most definitely saw that same type of challenge between Williamson and Roberts, no foul – and then he scores a goal.

    What the hell is going on there?

    Seriously though, not to blame the ref for a result – why is Williamson getting so easily outmuscled and jumping like that? On the note of deja vu, it was just about the same stance Fabianski had for Carroll running in for the goal.. no chance.

    And on another positive note, it was inevitable they were going to hoy Barton back into the bad lad figure as soon as he stepped out of line. Way to do it Joey – lose your head out of all other players despite your past and words/performances this season. You twonk.

    However, as Hughton likes to use as his “safety line” – we’re always going to have highs and lows this season. This was most definitely a big low, even more so off the wins IMO. Because to me, it demonstrates that our team can suffer complacency, can punch above their weight one week to beat an Arsenal, then lack tactical nouse to get past a Sam Allardyce team. Hopefully though like that bloke on radio toon said, Fulham will come this weekend and look to actually play, so fingers crossed it’s back to winning ways (and breaking a bad home record) and outplaying good teams again.

    Newcastle, once, are and always an enigma :(

  272. Actually,i really don’t mind we win or lose this game.

    We Must always have this thinking in mind.

    safety in BPl to guarantee us for next season is the foremost priority.

    After we achieve that,then maybe challenge for other stuffs such as Higher up in the league table or Europa.

    On a positive Note:Oh my~~

    Carroll is join-top scorer~~ 8O

    And even though Newcastle lost,they still 5th.Lady Luck still around. :lol:

    As for fulham match,We shall see what type Of NUFC players out there that day~~”Wounded Animals”?

  273. I hate losing any games against Allardyce, here is NO WAY that we should lose against this turkey at home…

  274. As frustrating as it is to see us be brilliant one week and pathetic the next we will have to accept it. We’re newly promoted and will be inconsistant. We’re just going to have to live with it.

    There could be a problem when we lose Carrol for whatever reason and I would like to see us have more than a plan A but I suppose its baby steps at the moment.

  275. How ironic would it be for Barton to be done by video evidence when De Jong and Cattermole have escaped time after time.

  277. Yup – missed the chance to put a bit more daylight between us and teams at the bottom who we’ll ultimately be fighting for survival with – fvcking very annoying but we were always going to be inconsistent this season – just annoying we’re crap against what should be ‘easier’ teams

  278. We’re not really gonna be still 5th. If we had gotten 4 points from these two games we would have been but not now. Just hope Gyan stops this annoying little run for the mackems coz don’t wanna go below them again. Liverpool are gonna leave us for dead here and have 5th off us but it can’t be helped, if we can stay in the top half and above Sunderland it will be more than what we expected but having seen where we could have been with beating some of these average sides at home its not great.

  279. Just saw the Barton/Pedersen coming together. Silly boy, no defence for him sadly. Bluntly punches him, he’ll be banned, fined, the lot. Can’t argue sadly.

  280. If Barton gets banned we can play Guthrie through the centre so it’s not a disaster. I think we need someone to offer a threat through the centre, against Blackburn we just put it wide and then tried to cross it and big sam just put a wing back on each winger and three centre halves to soak it up. C.H should has changed it and put Guthrie on in the middle or something imo becaus eit obviously wasn’t working even though we were unlucky (well sloppy) to concede a second, I don’t agree that we looked like winning like hoots reckons.

  281. Thats still a grey area with Hughton, his in game tactics, he only brought Ranger on in a like for like because he must have been forced into it. He doesn’t seem to change things round for tactical reasons. I just think we were far too predictable and an old schemer like Lardacye could prepare for us far too easily, we should have kept him guessing and announced a different formation and game plan to what he have in the last 3 games. Then the game would kick off and we would have the upper hand not him.

  282. What frustrates me is the predicitability of us. I’m all for playing to our strengths but not every single minute of every single game.
    Everytime we got the ball wide we put the ball in the box, wherever we where. We were crossing from the half way line sometimes and Blackburn just dropped deep and defended the high balls.

    The bad news is we’re playing Fulham on Saturday who haven’t won away for about 10 years, so their due and still our home form is absoluely shocking.

    Still as I’ve said, staying up is the priority and this season we are going to be very inconsistant.

    Live with it!

  283. DJG-to be fair to hoots, he made changes for Arsenal, had a ballsy game plan and it worked. Not many teams go to Arsenal to attack, we did and we won. As for last night, there’s no need to change something that isn’t broken. The reason we kept the same team was purely due to the fact that teams may have known what we wanted to do, but it was irrelevant as they haven’t been able to stop us. Bburn are just a strong physical team that defensivly are strongest when dealing with our strongest form of attack. Same goes for Stoke. In saying that, the goals were poorly conceded.

  284. And just to clarify, that doesn’t mean we don’t need a plan b, so to speak. We do, for teams like Stoke, Blackburn, Wigan etc. The likes of Benny would have provided a spark that would have helped our non existent plan b I think though.

  286. As for the second goal, Williamson was jumping from a standing position, Roberts was running on to the ball so had greater momentum. Just one of those things, but Tiote should have just hoofed the first one clear. For me I wonder if maybe Routledge need to come in to freshen things up

  287. Well we knew they where going to be a big physical route one Allardyce team. So we didn’t we play football with players like Guthrie, Barton and Nolan bombing on through the middle, they wouldn’t have been able to cope with that as well as they cope with high balls into the box. It just annoys me when we have been beaten tactically by weaker opposition, there really is no excuse for it. The same formation should work against Fulham though fingers crossed.

  288. Its typical of Allardyce that in his interview mentions that Carroll should never have been allowed a free header in the box and his side were sloppy. Then goes on about how they played so high up the pitch but at no point mentions that BOTH his goals came from sloppy defensive errors rather than his team actually creating anything, bit unfair that like, I know he’s trying to big up his sides performance but the way he talks would suggest that they created their chances from actually playing football.

  289. What Barton did was silly but it’s gonna be blown up because of his Rep…. Any other player and nothing much would be said. Pretty sure pundits would just say
    “He should have went” Statement over!

  290. DT – what barton did was absolutely disgraceful and unacceptable and once again he has embarrassed NUFC.

    Its more annoyin because hes clearly our most creative player.

    Ranger and guti were headless chickens all night. Take carroll out the team n were pretty useless upfront.

  291. Also i was there last night and i dont think awa crowd/fans help the team as much as we should. We almost put too much pressure on the players. Other teams thrive on it thts why we have a poor home record. the fat heed song was awesome though!!

    Id personally put the soul train in cos awa CB’s were shat for then2nd goal.

  292. I dont know whether to laugh or cry, but i think i’ll just stick to crying… We are such a frustrating team at times… Sure we knew it would be a hard season, and we are all estatic being so high up in the league. But why do our players simply not turn up at home most of the time? They cant blame the fans this time, because there wasnt any particular pressure from the fans. We simply didnt deal with their aggressive play and we collapsed like a deck of cards.

    Im not going to mention Barton, because we all know what to think of that, but i am really worried that our arguably best performer (Tioté) keep repeating the same mistake time and time again trying to dribble out of danger in dangerous positions. If he cleared up his decision making, he would be immense though.

  293. Oh, and Darloboy… Talking about chickens i think Simpson should get a mention, he was bullied and withdrew from tackles all game. I really hoped to see him replaced with Perch (Didnt check if he was on the bench though) since his size and physique would give us a bit more steel.

  294. So disappointed. It seems everytime we have an excellent chance to move up a level, our players decide they’ve done enough.

    Even a draw would have carried on the momentum, but they failed miserably in this game.

    I have to agree that we only seem to have a plan A at home, and if our wingers are marked out of the game, we look a poor side. As well as its worked I honestly feel we need Joey’s creativity in the centre of the park at home.

    Tiote picked up a fourth yellow, but he seems to pick one up every game lately. Needs to be careful…

  295. i agree if carroll is out doesnt leave us with much,but ime sure hoots will try to fix that come jan,we need something differant,like a plan B,think 3 forwards will go out and at least a striker to come in for jan

  296. Carroll is definitely in the england squad,
    my mates dad is a footy agent who did an interview with Umbro (Englands kit suppliers) and they said they wanted him to do a piece about england squad for when it is announced so they told him the squad

  297. have to say that I do like Barton, always have, but what a stupid silly bloke and he will get banned…rightly so but also because of who he is

    its funny, the Wolves match, he gets kicked from pillar to post all match, doesn’t react, gets plaudits, praise…last night though, so strange that he reacts like that, over a nothing knock by Pedersen, not excusing him but wonder if something else has happened earlier in the match, something said?, which pushed him over the edge there

  298. It would be just like us to get Carroll back injured and then where are our goals coming from. It’s understandable how some managers pretend their players are injured at stuff. I bet Carroll wouldn’t snub the senior team like he does the u-21’s though ha. It was amazing when that guy on talkSPORT said that he though Carroll was not only the best english striker but the best striker in the prem atm! and the best english striker to lead the line since Alan Shearer! and he bought 4 tickets and would be p’d off if Carroll didnt start the france game!

  299. Totally agree Jo… Something had to happen. I reckon, Ped said something to him on the way by. Look how angry Barton looked when he turned around!

  300. Pedersen didnt have to say anything, his silly boy face was enough to infuriate anyone… I dont condone what Barton did, but he really looks like a tw*t.

  303. ffs who cares if barton gave Pederson a little dig. Footballers are shft as sh### anyway. In rugby and ice hockey the players knock seven bells out of each other. :)

  305. Valle and DJG…. Love both comments! I just can’t help myself backing up Barton! Really do think he is class and I don’t care if he is a thug! A lot of top players in the past were also thugs!!

  306. Aye but if the referee did nothing at the time how can they do anything. When Stoke scored that goal against Sunderland and Cattermole handled it out of the net they wouldn’t watch that on match of the day and then say oh right, we’ll change the score afterwards. Just coz some div on MoTD and in the papers has highlighted this because otherwise they’ve got nothing to write about, why should the FA then take any action. The fa can’t have one rule for themselves when their officials cock up in matches and then another rule coz it’s Joey barton, thats completely unfair. Considering they won anyway and Big Sam signed Barton at one point do you think they have launched an official complaint? I doubt it. In the old days before every game was recorded if something happened behind the refs back nothing was ever made of it. if the FA wan’t to continue living in the past where it suits them then they can’t ban Barton.

  309. yes but it wasn’t his lucky suit. :(

    I was right about one of their players diving for a penalty. ;)

    Luckly the ref was having non of it though and Hoilett got a yellow card ha.

  311. Nope, apparently it was his 4th booking, they thought he had been booked v Chelski but he hadn’t.

  314. We need a win on sat like. We got our revenge on Villa, well Fulham were the last team to beat us at SJP before the dredded drop.

  315. Tiote isn’t banned.

    He picked up bookings against Wigan, Sunderland, Arsenal, Blackburn, so he still has one more to go :)

  316. toonsy are you banging a new thread up, coz I always post and then no-one reads it coz there a new thread. :)

  318. DJG – Yes, just finishing it now. Wpuld have done it earlier but my fence has blown over so I needed to fox that as I didn’t want the sket from nextdoor getting on my property :D

  319. For all those who moaned about the performance yesterday lets consider where we are right now.

    5th in the BPL with 17 points and above the likes of Spuds, Villa, Everton, Liverpool and even the Makems so lets not get too down about this result.

    Why did we lose ? Easy to say we got it wrong tactically but we’ve all moaned about playing more positively at home but yesterday Fat Sam used three centre backs which gave them two defenders to focus solely on blocking the flanks which effectively nullifies our threat if we play two big forwards who feed on quality crosses.

    In addition, Blackburn are undoubtedly a physical side and when they came out of the blocks quickly and didnt allow us to settle into our own rhythm they clearly gained the upper hand.

    IMO CH could have changed it at half time and matched their formation by going 3-5-2 with Saylor moving to the back three leaving Tiote as the holding player and bringing on Routledge for Simpson and taking Jonas off but leaving Jose on in a more advanced wing back role. Clearly the key was to provide more ammunition for the front two instead of leaving them isolated or forcing them to come deeper in search of the ball.

    However, tactics aside, the major reason we got done at home was due to our own silly mistakes firstly by Tiote then Colo and Williamson combining to gift Roberts the ball. Take those two incidents out of the game and we’d have won 1-0 and been even further away from the Makems :)

    So let’s not forget the No. 1 priority this season is survival, with any additional icing on the cake coming in the form of good wins against the Makems and Villa and some top away performances.

  320. Oh,talking about the second goal blackburn scored….

    did anyone saw robert has a certain punch to Williamson chest,before he went on and score.

    Williamson seems to be in pain.

  321. “Williamson seems to be in pain”

    Maybe in pain but the bottom line is if you’re not dead then you continue to play to the whistle rather than fall down on the floor and hope the ref sees you.

    This is the Big League and Williamson has to recognise that or take his arse back to Pompey :(