Everton vs Newcastle United match banter!

Posted on September 30th, 2013 | 109 Comments |

Everton v Newcastle United.
Here’s hoping we aren’t Toffee hammered.
Venue: Goodison Park, Liverpool.
Date: Mon 30th Sep, 2013.
Kick off: 8.00pm.
Referee: Phil Dowd (Staffs).
UK TV: Sky Sports.

Hello, good evening and welcome to our “match banter” feature for this evening’s game against Everton.

As I mentioned in my earlier mega-match preview for this game, this is always an interesting encounter as Everton are the closest team we can compare ourselves to, a kind of benchmark test against a team with similar resources to Newcastle United. Everton are the team we should fighting with for 7th place, though sadly, thanks to the dysfunctional nature of Newcastle Unoted under it’s current ownership, they have usually done better then we have. Here’s hoping we can reverse the usual trend this evening though.

As I have already done a pretty extrensive preview which you can read via the link above if you want to, I will keep this piece fairly brief. So for now I will just get on with my usual reminders that I will be updating this later with the final team sheets for the game, as well as links to watch the game online in the comments section. As well as this, I will also be posting match highlights, as well as a full match video when available.

Howay the Lads!

Team sheets.

Everton (4-2-3-1): Tim Howard (G); Seamus Coleman, Phil Jagielka (c), Sylvain Distin, Leighton Baines; James McCarthy, Gareth Barry; Leon Osman, Ross Barkley, Kevin Mirallas; Romelu Lukaku

Subs: Joel Robles (G), John Stones, John Heitinga, Gerard Deulofeu, Steven Naismith, Nikica Jelavic, Arouna Kone

Newcastle United (4-3-3): Tim Krul (G); Mathieu Debuchy, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Fabricio Coloccini (c), Davide Santon; Vurnon Anita, Cheick Tiote, Moussa Sissoko; Yoan Gouffran, Loic Remy, Hatem Ben Arfa.

Subs: Rob Elliot (G), Paul Dummett, Mike Williamson, Yohan Cabaye, Gabriel Obertan, Sammy Ameobi, Papiss Cisse.

Everton vs Newcastle United match preview.

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  4. The Newcastle United team is up now is up now:

    Newcastle United (4-3-3): Tim Krul (G); Mathieu Debuchy, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Fabricio Coloccini (C), Davide Santon; Vurnon Anita, Cheick Tiote, Moussa Sissoko; Yoan Gouffran, Loic Remy, Hatem Ben Arfa.

    Subs: Rob Elliot (G), Paul Dummett, Mike Williamson, Yohan Cabaye, Gabriel Obertan, Sammy Ameobi, Papiss Cisse.

  5. TOONARMYELITE says:
    September 30, 2013 at 6:50 pm

    “Get to watch it on a proper screen today sky sports”

    This one’s on Bloodzeed, Toon. That’s almost as good as the telly anyway.

  6. Well looks like Cabaye’s injury made the midfield question moot.

    Classic AP: finally benches Cisse AFTER he scores a goal.

  8. tunyc says:
    September 30, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    “Classic AP: finally benches Cisse AFTER he scores a goal.”

    Snap! I thought exactly the same thing when I saw the team sheet, tunyc.

  9. At least I can actually follow the blog tonight as I will be watching it live on Sky, so will probably pop in at half time.

    I usually keep clear of news or any media that will give out scores before I get to watch it on MOTD (Sad I know)or whatever else it may be on!

    HWTL top 6 position coming up!!!

  10. Very defensive looking midfield, but hopefully Anita can provide service to the front three, along with support from the wing backs.
    Appears Cabaye is still feeling the results from a recent groin injury and why is Williamson on the bench and both Marveaux and Taylor not ?
    I don’t like this lineup at all.
    Appears we are going to switch from a recent side that played more of an attacking game to a defensive look.

  11. Although I’ve just looked again and we will need an 11-0 win to do that, still you never know. :)

  12. Grumpy Old-Toon says:
    September 30, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    “I usually keep clear of news or any media that will give out scores before I get to watch it on MOTD (Sad I know)or whatever else it may be on!”

    If I do that, I usually switch the telly on for MotD just as the bastard on the news is reading all the results out just before it starts. I really hate them for doing that, they’re worse than Brian Glover in the Likely Lads.

  14. chuck says:
    September 30, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    “Appears Cabaye is still feeling the results from a recent groin injury and why is Williamson on the bench and both Marveaux and Taylor not ?”

    Because Iron Mike is the Franco Baresi of the Potteries, Chuck. He should be on the pitch, not on the bench.

  15. Question is, why (unless he has a niggling injury) has Pardew decided to pull Cisse at this time?
    Does he prefer Remy ?
    It appears Pardew doesn’t have a clue as to what his best lineup is, as he keeps experimenting.
    Thank goodness Jonas is injured as he would probably have got a start to-day.
    Well at least Sammy and Cisse, the beginning of what could be a decent pairing, are on the bench and available.

  16. Worky

    Just pray that he stays there (on the bench)Williamson.
    See what a situation your pal Joe has got us into, by cancelling the acquisition of Douglas.
    A guy he knew absolutely nothing about, and only did it to demonstrate he was in charge.
    It’s great fun , a laugh a minute supporting a club run by a bunch of incompetent’s.

  17. chuck says:
    September 30, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    “Question is, why (unless he has a niggling injury) has Pardew decided to pull Cisse at this time?”

    He feels he needs a bit of a rest, Chuck. That’s what he said anyway.

  18. chuck says:
    September 30, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    “Worky

    Just pray that he stays there (on the bench)Williamson.
    See what a situation your pal Joe has got us into, by cancelling the acquisition of Douglas.”

    Well he kept a clean sheet the other night, Chuckles. Who told you that Joe Kinnear cancelled the aquisition of Douglas?

  24. Phisix says:
    September 30, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    “Just logged on and a fecking goal.”

    Lukaku had it in the net earlier too but it was ruled offside. I don’t like the look of him at all.

    I don’t like the look of the whole Everton team for that matter.

  25. chuck-I can understand Willo ahead of Taylor.

    Injury is the only reason Marveaux should not be on the bench from what I’ve seen. If Obertan is one of this squad’s 18 best players-may the gods have mercy on us.

  27. Well that didn’t take long.

    Certainly doesn’t change my prediction that we’ll get nothing from this fixture except, potentially, a serious hiding.

  32. Were shite and we know we are. Shite attack, shite defending, shite manager and shite owner.

    …shite.

  33. I’m really sick if hearing “that’s Pardew’s game plan out the window now” and “in all fairness to the strikers, they’re getting no service whatsoever.”

  34. We’re passing OK but they are passing better. Lukaku has been great and they sliced us apart twice.

    Clutching at straws – Little Vern has been very tidy.

  38. utter embarrassment what will it take for him to get the sack? i cant watch this crap have a good night lads

  47. As if, you know Sunderland are going to beat us just to heap more misery on us. I don’t think I have any faith in this team anymore, or maybe its Pardew, as it always has been.

  51. 2mins. Plus stoppage time 3 : 0 down. Will the first elevn supporters at the next home match report for the game. This side are the pits and don’t deserve to wear the shirt. Pardew f##k off!!!

  53. This is excellent. Short term it sucks but more performances like this and Pardew will be exiting stage left sooner rather than later.

  56. any minute now some dickhead will appear to complain about the negativity around these parts.

    pardew supporters, like wartime collaborators, should not be forgotten or forgiven.

    this prick should have been history after the reading game.*

    *of course he should never have had the job in the first place.

  57. pardew wont be sacked he survived a 6-0 defeat at home to liverpool and our worst result in recent history against the scum and still here he has his tongue up ashleys arse

  58. Oy stewpot. I want to complain about the negativity around these parts.

    We aren’t being negative enough about pardew. To the river with him.

  59. Two of their goals have been from Howard hoofs. So, not only can WE not play hoofball, WE cant f@ckin’ defend it either. Worst of both worlds :)

  64. Paul in Hollywood says:
    September 30, 2013 at 8:54 pm

    “On the bright side, does this mean that we are a lot closer to hiring Roberto di Matteo?”

    If were in the bottom five after Christmas, Chubs might think about bringing someone else in but it won’t be anyone you (or I) want. It’ll be some crappy old stager – probably someone from JFK’s circle of friends who’s been looking for a job for the last ten years.

  76. Why couldn’t they have played like this in the first half? Looks like Anita’s get some steam up here.

  78. The question for Pardew is why the hell didn’t he have our players fired up at the start of the match, not half way through? It shows one of him biggest weaknesses – the lack of urgency which, by contrast, Martinez oozes.

  79. I don’t think lukaku should even be playing.

    It’s one thing to loan a player out to a club in another country or even to a club in a higher division (to gain experience), but a wealthy club in the EPL loaning a senior player to another EPL club *and stipulating that he can’t play against the club that owns him* is just cheating I reckon.

    No sour grapes in this at all!

  80. It might not be very fashionable to say this but the defence has been much better since Williamson came on, and that has been the foundation for our lot getting better.

  82. Worky: when we went on those runs a couple of seasons ago I think it coincided with Taylor being out. Howards hoofs certainly worked anywhere near as well.

  83. Darth: we did get a French International on loan in Remy. But I do think loans between premiership teams should be limited. Moses to Liverpool is another prime example.

  84. tunyc says:
    September 30, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    “conversely, you think we even asked about his availability?”

    I know we probably make as any enquiries as anyone else in this regard, tunyc (I know we were looking to take Ba back on loan) but I think the issue should be academic – I just don’t think it should be allowed.

  85. Darth-how do you know that? As soon as the rumor surfaced, Ba’s agent said it was a nonstarter, which I assumed all parties knew. I don’t think we were actually interested and circumstances seem to show he either was going to Arsenal or staying. I sincerely doubt we inquired about Lukaku because our front office thought we had plenty up top and didn’t want to pay any more wages.

  88. GS says:
    September 30, 2013 at 9:41 pm

    “we did get a French International on loan in Remy.”

    Aye there is that GS, but he can’t affect his parent club’s fortunes this season. I just think the whole thing of ‘same league/division’ loans is a bit off really and it would be better if it wasn’t allowed to happen.

    Of course, the daftest example of a loan signing causing problems is this:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2373980/LuaLua-upsets-Newcastle.html

  90. Darth @ 88: why didn’t we ask for that clause with the LuaLua loan? Surely nobody’s fault but our front office’s.

    If they want to change the rules about loans as you suggest, I don’t have a problem with it. I just don’t see it as a big deal.

  91. williamson was outstanding tonight. i wonder if collo gets a say because for me that partnership is the only one that works consistently.

    i hope taylor was watching. did big mike even give one foul away?

  97. i know most hated him but i miss joey barton a real leader who plays with passion there was none in the 1st half. We are in trouble and hearing people on sky sports saying feel sorry for pardew just makes it worse

  98. gary neville said you can’t blame pardew for the defending… isn’t that the only aspect of coaching he gets involved in?

    also, i wish they’d switch santon to right back and start with dummet at left back. santon is always tackling with his wrong foot and it must really fuck with his balance. don’t get it.

  100. dokky says:
    September 30, 2013 at 10:50 pm

    “i know most hated him but i miss joey barton a real leader who plays with passion there was none in the 1st half.”

    Aye Dokky, I used to enjoy the Joey Barton show both on and off the pitch. :-)

    Yanga MBiwa is a problem, he made Williamson look like Beckenbauer when he came on tonight and I’ve already mentioned the full backs, who are getting very tedious now.

  101. @worky

    i think he’s a good player but young and taking time to adjust.

    i imagine a coach like wenger would use him sparingly but that’s a luxury we don’t have.

    having said that i wouldn’t hesitate with starting willo against cardiff. he earned it tonight.

  102. i agree williamson played well in the 2nd half. The problem i have tho is we have nobody playing for the shirt. Shearer loved the club growing up and would probably die out on the pitch when he was playing, nobody has that passion now its all about the money (cant blame them as we bought them) but not one player is a geordie. im not the most die hard fan but i have spent thousands travelling to watch them over the years and this is one of the lowest points i have felt as a fan. We have no ambition at all and thats what upsets me like your blog the other day says all we want is to stay in the league when have one of the most loyal fanbases, Sorry for the rant but im fookin annoyed at what has happened to this club i have shed tears over.

  103. MBiwa has looked better at fullback. Santon jumped in for the second goal – is he really a fullback?

    With MBiwa in the center we seem to give away set piece and long ball goals. It is becoming obvious that he and Coloccini cannot play together.

    I was really surprised at how much difference Williamson made. He can’t be dropped. I think it should be Santon dropped and Mbiwa to left back.

    Gouffran never stopped running – he was Jonas, but with some skill and threat.

  104. i think the geordie players thing is non-starter, i really do.

    solano, ferdinand, speed, barton, nolan, lee, the list goes on. we’ve had plenty of decent players who weren’t from up here and we still have plenty of good players now.

    a manager who can realise the squad’s potential would be a good start.

  105. @GS

    but at villa mbiwa had benteke in his back pocket. by any measure that shows the kid has potential.

    i agree he had a terrible game tonight but i don’t think it’s fair to start hammering young players with the club in the state it is.

    it took bassong a while to find his feet and by the time he did he looked like a very good player.

    also, krul was very suspect again tonight. a keeper has 3 basic requirements, shot-stopping, commanding the box (i.e. coming or not coming for crosses) and distribution.

    he’s always been a superb shot-stopper but is seriously lacking in the other two aspects.

    going back to having local lads in the squad, i’ve always maintained we made a big mistake getting rid of fraser forster.

  106. Stewpot: I think MBiwa is a good player but him and Coloccini together are too short to handle some of the physical strikers – so we give up set piece and hoof goals. I’d rather see him play left back because he looked really good there.

    Didn’t Benteke score for Villa (from a set piece)?

  107. @gs

    yes benteke scored but if krul had stayed on his line he would have caught the ball easily. again, poor decision making from the keeper. he did it a few times at villa park.

    after the match the villa fans i was out with couldn’t believe how quiet he’d kept benteke. having said that, the service to him was dreadful that day, as were villa in general.

    don’t disagree about the height thing. it was good to see willo win everything in the air after he came on tonight.

    mbiwa at left back and santon at right back could be worth a try for sure.

  109. Darth @ 92: no problem with believing what you read, but putting in context, I think it was one of those blatant rumors.

    As for a lack of passion-again, that’s Pardew’s coaching. The amount of trotting around and half-assed effort I’ve seen this season tells me he’s well & truly lost the squad.

    As for our fullbacks-glad to see I’m no longer alone in pointing out how much of a liability they are. Debuchy is capable of a good game but seems to have very, very little discipline. Whereas Santon doesn’t strike me as any sort of defender, and rarely ever has done so. Mirallas absolutely skinned him-he’s been personally responsible for 4-5 goals over our last 10-15 matches going back to last season. His positioning is shocking, more shocking is that he doesn’t ever catch anyone once he’s beaten and perhaps most shocking is that I don’t think I’ve ever seen him put in a good tackle-not one.