Derby day looms: Sunderland v Newcastle match preview

Posted on August 18th, 2011 | 52 Comments |

Sunderland v Newcastle match preview.
A visit to the dark side
It’s here…

12.00 pm on Saturday sees the 145th Tyne – Wear derby take place, as Newcastle United visit the dark place to take on Steve Bruce’s Sunderland.

Due to police advice, the game will take place at noon and there is no scheduled live broadcast of the match. If you’re not braving the journey to the Stadium of Light, you will likely be able to find a broadcast here. Just keep checking that site before kick-off and you should be able to find a link. Like last season, Howard Webb is the man in the middle.

Newcastle approach this game on the back of a 0-0 home draw against Arsenal, in which the only notable incidents were a stamp by Alex Song, Joey Barton getting angry and a slap to the face.

The slap to the face I’m referring to was Gervinho’s literal slap on Joey Barton and not Alan Pardew’s first-half tactics in which our 4 man midfield was totally overrun by Arsenal’s midfield 5. Now lets take a look at the two squads.

Newcastle: Harper, Krul; Coloccini, Saylor, Williamson, Simpson, Perch; Smith, Tiote, Cabaye, Abeid, Vuckic, Barton, Guthrie, Marveaux, Ferguson, Gutierrez, Raylor, Obertan, Gosling; ShAmeobi, SAmeobi, Ranger, Best, Ba, Lovenkrands.

Sunderland: Mignolet, Bardsley, Brown, Richarson, Ferdinand, Cattermole, Larsson, Colback, Elmohamady, Sessegnon, Gyan, Westwood, Bramble, Laing, Gardner, Vaughan, Wickham, Ji.

Missing are Hatem Ben Arfa who’s injured and Danny Guthrie who’s not match fit. Kazenga Lua Lua, Michael Richardson, James Tavernier, Phil Airey and Xisco are unavailable due to being away on loan. Shane Ferguson and Sylvain Marveaux got through our reserves recent 5-0 win against Gateshead reserves, but neither are likely to start on Saturday. Fraser Forster’s departure for Celtic means Steve Harper looks likely to be on the bench, with Tim Krul retaining his place in goal. Easily our stand-out players last weekend, Steven Taylor and Fabricio Coloccini look likely to partner each other in defence. Ryan Taylor looks set to remain in the left-back position, as the club have failed to progress negotiations (probably bids) for any suitable replacements. This is despite Pardew’s insistence after the Arsenal game, a new left-back and possibly a striker would be among our ranks for the trip to the Stadium of Plight. I expect Cabaye and Tiote to resume their partnership in the centre of midfield, with Barton operating the right-flank and Jonas the left. Expect Ba to partner Shola Ameobi up top.

In essence, expect a bland 4-4-2 formation with no surprises. Personally I would prefer something along the lines of this below.

Jimbob's prefered Newcastle formation.
Better than 4-4-2?

As you can see I’ve opted for the same formation I would liked to have seen against Arsenal. I’ve included Obertan in the ‘hole’ position, though you could easily swap with Barton. I think Obertan can operate slightly better than Barton though behind the striker. Against Arsenal we lacked a link between midfield and attack with Ba and Ameobi lumbering up top together. In my Arsenal match preview I opted to include Jonas as the link between midfield and attack. It really all depends on how Pardew sees this game going. Does he want to win or just go for a point?

Expect Sunderland to employ a 4-5-1 / 4-4-1-1, meaning Newcastle will need to match their aggressive midfield by either pushing Barton, Cabaye and Tiote together. Seb Larsson might be pushed to left-midfield and Sessegnon may be deployed on the right to target Ryan Taylor. Remember though, Steve Bruce isn’t a tactical genius and he may leave Larsson on the right. If indeed he does leave Larson on the right, don’t worry too much about Ryan Taylor as Larsson’s only real threat is his set-piece delivery, though I am aware of the excellent goal he scored against Liverpool last week.

Our set piece plays must improve, as against Arsenal we didn’t clear the first man frequent enough. This is obviously incredibly frustrating to watch and I believe this game may be a nervy affair for both sets of players, I can see a set-piece deciding it, one way or another. As you can see I’ve also opted for Ba up top instead of ‘Mackam slayer’ Shola Ameobi. Well, like I’ve said, expect to see both Ba and Ameobi up top on Saturday.

Remember, the onus will be on Sunderland to attack us. They are at home of course and will want to banish the humiliation of the 5-1 defeat at St James’ Park last season. The more ‘pacy’ players we decide to start with the better. We want to invite them on to us, and utilise the pace of players such as Obertan and Jonas. This match will start at 100mph and our lads must be awake from the off.

Sunderland’s stand out player last weekend was Wes Brown. I’ve read many comments laughing at his arrival at Sunderland, but he is a very good and experienced defender. Something the Mackem’s lacked in both our previous meetings last season. Steven Taylor and Fabricio Coloccini were outstanding last weekend also, so both sets of central defenders may be key to who has prospered come Saturday afternoon.

Key man Newcastle:

Joey Barton

They’re going to target him and try to wind him up. If he can keep his cool, this is exactly the type of game he can excel in, much like last season.

Key man Sunderland:

Lee Cattermole

Same as Barton, our players will try to wind him up the same. Kevin Nolan did an excellent job of this during our victory at St James’ Park, where he had to be substituted by Bruce over fear of collecting a red card.

So, the second match of the 2011 / 2012 season sees the Magpie’s face the Mackam’s. Expect another hostile affair as usual, but my gut feeling is this one will not be a high scoring encounter. A goal either way will likely settle this one. Bragging rights will be in full effect until we meet again on Saturday 3rd March at St James’ Park. Maybe we will have a new striker and left-back by then?

Lets hope the lads get stuck in and bring home the three points.

It’s on!

Howay The Lads.

NUFCBlog Author: Jimbob Backpacker extraordinaire and current resident of sunny Sheffield. Loves Marmite, hates peanut butter. Sleeps twice a day, wrestles Polar Bears because he can and regards himself as cool as a cucumber in a bowl of hot sauce. Jimbob has written 40 articles on this blog.

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52 Responses

  1. GD – You’re kidding right? No matter what state we are in as a club, I can’t help but get fired up for derby day.

    Toon to win 2-1, Shola the mackem slayer to get the 2nd.

  2. GD, cheer up mate. I feel pissed off too, but Micky’s right, I’m still fired up for Saturday. Once that whistle blows, everyone’s going to be up for it.

    (Hopefully!)

  3. Agreed, all politics stops for 90 minutes when the whistle blows.

    Got a feeling we might struggle to get points this time around, although derby matches are always hard to call.

  4. Jimbob says:

    “GD, cheer up mate. I feel pissed off too, but Micky’s right, I’m still fired up for Saturday. Once that whistle blows, everyone’s going to be up for it”

    Yep and if we end up on a downer at least its another nail in the coffin of Pardwho the Clueless :)

    FFS I would take any out of work manager right now rather than this cockney monkey to lead us into Le Stade de Merd !

  5. Kamar says:

    “Cattermole and Barton to be sent off”

    Joey’s too street wise for that Kamar. Although he’ll probably get Cattermole sent off, producing pictures of the player being cruel to a puppy just to confirm Webb’s decision :)

    Tiote to get a yellow.

    No brainer :)

  6. @andymac..problem is mate pardew is up ashley for alot of money(gambling debts) so aslong as fattys there so will pardew im afraid…..whole club is rotten from top to bottom….real sad state of affairs///

  7. brian w says:
    August 18, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    “@andymac..problem is mate pardew is up ashley for alot of money(gambling debts)”

    I’m not so sure about that one Brian, to be honest, I think the truth is worse than that. As I’ve written before, managers talk (though not necessarily as much as Pardew does!). After what some the the recent Newcastle managers have said, none of the good ones would work under the ridiculous Ashley / Llambias setup unless they were offered the most ridiculous contract, especially the payout they would get if they were sacked. As you know, Ashley won’t do that so once he foolishly sacked Hughton, Pardew was almost certainly the best that we could get unfortunately.

    Ashley doesn’t understand that unlike the rag trade, you can’t treat quality football managers like shite, especially when you’re paying them peanuts.

  8. brian w says:

    “whole club is rotten from top to bottom….real sad state of affairs”

    Nothing more to add, your honour !

  9. workyticket says:

    I’m not so sure about that one Brian, to be honest, I think the truth is worse than that. As I’ve written before, managers talk (though not necessarily as much as Pardew does!). After what some the the recent Newcastle managers have said, none of the good ones would work under the ridiculous Ashley / Llambias setup unless they were offered the most ridiculous contract, especially the payout they would get if they were sacked. As you know, Ashley won’t do that so once he foolishly sacked Hughton, Pardew was almost certainly the best that we could get unfortunately.

    Ashley doesn’t understand that unlike the rag trade, you can’t treat quality football managers like shite, especially when you’re paying them peanuts”

    Somewhere in my dim and distant memory I seem to recall that although PtC (Pardwho the Clueless) was “given” a five and a half year contract, the annual wage was a relatively small £400k and if he got sacked it wasnt a 5 1/2 x £400k payoff ?

    Can anyone enlighten us ?

  10. Hugh and Worky my predictor scores in?
    Said error so just want to check.
    Cheers SJT xx

  11. AndyMac says:
    August 18, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    “Somewhere in my dim and distant memory I seem to recall that although PtC (Pardwho the Clueless) was “given” a five and a half year contract, the annual wage was a relatively small £400k and if he got sacked it wasnt a 5 1/2 x £400k payoff ?

    Can anyone enlighten us ?”

    Andy, while the 5 1/2 year bit was blathered about by the club itself, I seem to recall that the other supposed detials came in the form of a Skysports leak, so the veracity of that bit may be questionable. Your estimate seems about right from what I can remember, but as I write, that bit was highly questionable information.

  12. sirjasontoon says:
    August 18, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    “Hugh and Worky my predictor scores in?
    Said error so just want to check.”

    I’ve just sent an e.mail to Hugh about it SJT.

  13. SJT, your predictions for week 2 appear to be there. Pull up your predictions and hit Save again just to be sure. Let me know if you get any errors.

  14. @worky i know for an absolute FACT that ashley had been talking to pardew for months before he sacked chris h. i was told by my brother in law whose a professional ref…he never really tells me anything as such so i didnt really believe him..but i kid you not he told me that at least 6 weeks before it happened…also he was the one that mentioned that pardew is up ashley for alot of money…i defo dont claim to be itk..but that is 100% true..

  15. Where do people get the idea that Pardew is in debt to Cashley for 5hitloads of doe. Which one of us super sages is so intimately pally with these to55ers to know this kind of Bollix.
    Surely, the NOTW would have done a job on it before we got it.

  16. Despite the “Forster may figure at some stage tonight” shlte from Lennon, I see FF is straight in between the sticks against FC Sion. At least the boy will get a few away days this season which is more than can be said for the rest of his colleagues :(

  17. Porciestreet, agree with you on that one. If AP was a degenerate gambler it would have been in the press years ago.

  18. AndyMac, Pardew stated the Scottish league was rubbish and there was no decent matches to test Forster. Basically it was a waste of time.

    So we send him back again for another season and potentially replace him with a League one ‘keeper, while alienating our longest serving player and possibly still our best overall goalkeeper.

    Brilliant logic.

  19. Porciestreet says:

    “Where do people get the idea that Pardew is in debt to Cashley for 5hitloads of doe. Which one of us super sages is so intimately pally with these to55ers to know this kind of Bollix”

    Even if he isnt in debt to the Fatman and Slimeball, he’s undoubtedly sold his soul to the devil.

    No self respecting Manager would stand for this shlte, Carroll sold but no replacement, Nolan sold but no replacement, Jose sold but no replacement, Barton ???.

    Defend him all you will Porcie, but we all know he’s unqualfied to lead a Premiership club to anything near a top eight place. You know that and I know that and he probably knows it too.

  20. Yeah Pardew’s a **** but not a massive ****. We would know by now. We have exceptional reporters in the North – East such as Lee Ryder who would get to the bottom of it.

  21. well since shola loves scoring against sunderland i’ve stuck £10 on shola 1-0. cracking odds at a staggering 55/1….money in the bank :)

  22. APT, I don’t usually bet on Toon games as my heart rules over my head. Won £20 with Dezko scoring the 1st V Swansea on Monday, though got excited and lost it when Auguero scored the 4th as I went for 3-0. Bastartd. :-)

  23. I see CH managed a draw away from home in the Europa tonight better than Ally McCoist :)

  24. jimbob, i dont usually bet on newcastle or sunderland on my coupons or anything since i lost on collocini 1-0 against spurs last season. but derby day is a bit special

  25. Jimbob says:
    August 18, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    “while alienating our longest serving player and possibly still our best overall goalkeeper.

    Brilliant logic.”

    And though Krul may be a good keeper, he proved that he can still be prone to the odd mistake in the last game.

    I’m speculating wildly, but with Krul having a sniff of the Netherlands shirt for less important games, perhaps Pardew is under orders to give hin a first team berth to give hin a better chance with the Netherlands and hence improve his value in Ashley’s livestock market? As I write, I’m just speculating wildly but that’s the way Ashley would think anyway.

  26. AndyMac says:
    August 18, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    “I see CH managed a draw away from home in the Europa tonight better than Ally McCoist”

    His whole first team has been sold as well since relegation and the owner’s money laundering scandal. He’s been left with an Academy team to get promotion and play in Europe.

  27. APT, you’re right, I’ll blatantly put some money on, it’ll get the better of me!

    Worky, I think Harper’s better than Krul. But Krul needs to develop, hence why he seems to be first choice. If you think as Ashley does, then obviously the more Krul plays and improves the more value he is. Ashley looks at this as a business and not a football club, which pisses many of us off because it’s our football club, not his toy.

  28. APT, last seasons Champions League final I got Pedro as first goalscorer and 2-1 to Barcelona. When David Villa scored the 3rd I went down from £200 to only £40. I was very upset. :-)

  29. That’s outstanding, there is a ‘Wearside Tramps’ tag / category for Sunderland posts.

    :lol:

  30. Jimbob says:
    August 18, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    “If you think as Ashley does”

    Jimbob, if I thought as Ashley does, I’d set up a business buying previously good brands, turn them into the chepest tat imaginable, then put huge reduction tags on at the factory before they actually go on sale and make an absolute fortune ripping people off. Then, I’d try and do something very similar with a football club. :-)

  31. Worky, if you ever thought as Ashley does, I’d advise you to lock yourself away somewhere and attempt for the next few decades to kill yourself with a plastic spoon.

  32. workyticket says:

    “If you think as Ashley does, I’d set up a business buying previously good brands, turn them into the chepest tat imaginable, then put huge reduction tags on at the factory before they actually go on sale and make an absolute fortune ripping people off. Then, I’d try and do something very similar with a football club. :-)”

    Fat Freddy beat you to it WT. Remember the £5 shirt scam ?

    As Doug said earlier it seems everyone takes NUFC fans for a ride one way or another ?

  33. AndyMac says:
    August 18, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    “Fat Freddy beat you to it WT. Remember the £5 shirt scam ?”

    Aye Andy, Shepherd was despicable but what would you rather have, an Adidas shirt or a (post Ashley) Lonsdale shirt?

    Having said that, nearly all major sportswear brands are made in sweatshops, which is despicable. Even when using indentured servants to make his crap though, Ashley always goes for the cheapest possible option.

    I changed your thing BTW Jimbob.

  34. Ah, ta Worky. Though the ‘Mackem slayer Sola Ameobi’ before it and the last paragraph is still spelt wrong. I’m ashamed to spell it incorrectly…

  35. pardew it’s my job to go knock on mikes door and get him to spend someb money and believe me I wouldn’t be doing my job if I wasn’t convincing mike to spend on the right players. BULLSHIT again brushing past it with a feather me thinks yes man and mouthpiece

  36. Oh yes and Lee Cattermole better not blow on anybody or they’ll go dowm holding their little red faces.

  37. Shola will destroy all, Cattermole will get sent off, Barton will do something petty and the press will jump on it like he has been hiding Maddie McCann – normal wtuff really

  38. Fearing the worst but got this as a 1-1 can’t see us scoring or creating much so hoping for a Sunderland own Goal.

  39. Another one bites the dust?
    L’equipe say that PSG striker Mevlut Erding is getting close to a move to Rennes for about €8m #Ligue1 #Rennes #PSG

  40. NUFC = Joke run club!!

    Do they know what this game means to the fans!!?? its more than 3pts!!

    Where in ncle is game to be shown?? any ideas??

  41. Jettson, the link at the top of the article should take you to myp2p, which will have a link towards kick-off. The game is being shown live in most country’s other than our own.