Hughton on Carroll: “With everything, you have to learn by your mistakes”.

Posted on October 21st, 2010 | 159 Comments |

Hughton: Support for Carroll.
Hughton: Support for Carroll.
Newcastle United manager, Chris Hughton today came out in support of his troubled striker, Andy Carroll, who has been becoming something of a regular in the local courts recently, facing allegations of an attack in a Newcastle night club and most recently, the assault of a former girlfriend. To add to the striker’s problems, he also had his recently purchased Range Rover, purchased in celebration of signing a new contract at the club, vandalised outside the home of teammate, Kevin Nolan, with whom Carroll has to live as part of his current bail conditions. Speaking in an interview, Hughton said of the Carroll crisis:

“With everything, you have to learn by your mistakes. All individuals are different but these are issues we have to deal with.

“The most important thing is to give him the support and the guidance he needs and that he continues to keep doing what he does right on the training pitch and in matches.

“He is easy to manage. We are all aware there have been other issues with him – Carroll is not the only individual that you can say that about.

“From my point of view and the club’s point of view, these are the things we have to deal with and we have to deal with them in the appropriate manner.”

Hughton went on to point out that Carroll’s problems off the pitch will have no effect on him being selected for the team, with Newcastle United facing an away fixture to West Ham on Saturday. He continued:

“I have decisions to make regarding the squad but all those decisions will be made solely on footballing reasons.

“With Andy, he has concentrated very much on his football.

“He is a strong-minded individual and I am quite sure he will be in the right frame of mind to play football, quite sure.”

Despite having a purple patch at the start of the season, including a hat-trick against Aston Villa, Carroll has been absent from recent scoresheets despite some near misses, but time will tell over the coming games as to whether Andy can prove Hughton to be correct in his assessment.

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  3. if carroll plays on sat, then ffs give him crosses to feed off, instead of him having his back to goal!!

    lets see him leap like a salmon to nod past that dodgy keeper!!

  4. The Avatar needs some professional help in dealing with his off-pitch lifestyle. It seems to me Joey Barton got and profited from such help.

    All the youngsters at the Benton base should get counseling as they learn their trade.

    I don’t know anything about AC’s childhood life, but it has not been sorted or it has gone woefully off track. It would be superb if NUFC mgt. took steps to get his feet on the ground, before some pimp or drunk puts a .32 slug in his stomach & leaves him to die in an alley.

  6. “before some pimp or drunk puts a .32 slug in his stomach & leaves him to die in an alley.”

    Haha – people don’t go around firing pistols in the Toon like them yankie-doodle pansies.

  8. I wouldn’t kna aboot that, toonsy – I normally steer clear of the pink triangle. ;)

  9. TC – I heard that rumour aswell mate. Nevermind though eh, the brown star is just over the road ;)

  10. Ah, happy memories of my 40th birthday party. James Bond theme, with me the only one allowed to be Bond. Spent the evening wandering round with a black water pistol loaded with vodka martini, asking cute Bond girls whether I could give them a shot in the mouth.

    Class, me.

  11. Back on track: would you love to know what that graffiti said? Praps Andy’s done summat ungood involving some local yardie’s daughter?

    And please tell me his car wasn’t really ‘chrome-plated’ as reported in some places. Surely not the whole thing…?

  12. Haha – I only go there at the end of a night on a weekend, toonsy – bit of a squeeze to get in sometimes tho. :lol:

  13. “Should Chris Hughton be sacked as Newcastle United manager?
    Yes 26 votes”

    you should be ashamed, f*ck off and ‘support’ the makems

  16. Sad repeat from previous thread:

    “Did you hear Andy Carroll’s made a tit of himself again. Someone told him his Range Rover wasn’t cool without smoked glass…”

  17. Yep, Toonsy and co, or whoever’s responsible for that daft poll: you’re doing damage to the club and taking the Mail’s bait hook, line and sinker. All it does is give the craploids more excuses to lay into the fans and stir shite for CH. Please get rid of it.

  18. ‘lets see him leap like a salmon to nod past that dodgy keeper!!’

    :lol:

    Englands number 2, Englands Englands number poo.

  19. I disagree about the poll. It shows that supporters are by and large still backing Hughton.

    I bet a similar poll of Evertonians would find a higher percentage want Moyes sacked, which is pure insanity. Or how about Villa supporters wanting O’Niel out?

    92%? I love it.

  20. can I just say, as my post after said, my distaste was aimed towards the ‘fans’ who voted that we should sack Chris

  21. Cheers Whumpie, but bear in mind i;m not the only prson who has an input on here. Wirky put it up actually, and FWIW I agree with FSS.

  22. Free Scoring Smudge

    Supporters are fickle. These same people saying they would cry if Hughton was sacked, would forget all about him if a new manager came in and had us playing good football, in the top 10 and good signings in Jan. Worky will probably have a go and say ‘you want Hughton out’ when im not bothered and didn’t vote in the poll but the fact is he would be the same in that senario.

  23. DJG says:
    October 21, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    “Supporters are fickle. These same people saying they would cry if Hughton was sacked”

    Who said they would cry like? I telt you on the other thread to stop making shit up to try and justify your point…

  24. I Love Mike says:
    October 21, 2010 at 3:32 pm
    “Should Chris Hughton be sacked as Newcastle United manager?
    Yes 26 votes”

    you should be ashamed, f*ck off and ’support’ the makems<<<< dick come back in 3 games wen were rock bottom

  25. I’t’s just one of them things really. Once again the players who fail to perform get off scot free leaving the gaffer to take the can….

  26. I Love Mike says:
    October 21, 2010 at 3:51 pm
    can I just say, as my post after said, my distaste was aimed towards the ‘fans’ who voted that we should sack Chris<<< so if people dont agree with you there wrong are they , go shove your heed in a bucket of shite

  27. batty says:
    October 21, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    “<<<< dick come back in 3 games wen were rock bottom" That's what you want batty, so they'll bring back your favourite, Joe Kinnear. I knaa that you both went to the same charm school. :-)

  30. toonsy

    Thats football and management in general buddy. Its up to him to save his own ‘can’ and get them playing, put a stop to these 4.30 in the morning benders ect and let some of them know that they arn’t as good as they think they are and need to improve drastically. Forget about that fluke, once in 10 year Villa game and Everton away, the game on Sat they were absolutely appauling and the home game before that in the second half and the home game before that.

  32. DJG – I disagree about us being appaling against Blackpool to be fair. The amount of chances/posts hit/shots of the line we had in that game suggested otherwise…..

    As for the players, there is only so many ways you can polish a turd. They just aren’t as good as many people seem to think they are.

  34. Kinnear would have had Carroll’s skinny arse up against the dressing room door once or twice by now. :)

  35. ‘DJG – I disagree about us being appaling against Blackpool to be fair’

    Fair enough yes I agree there to directly contradict what Ive just said but…

    we beat them 4-1 last season, virtually unchanged squads except for Harewood swapping teams, so what happened this time?

  36. DJG says:
    October 21, 2010 at 4:25 pm

    “we beat them 4-1 last season, virtually unchanged squads except for Harewood swapping teams, so what happened this time?”

    You see, this is why logic goes out of the window in football and the cliche “anything can happen” actually applies.

  37. Yes, when we got 2 goals back against Wigan I got that ‘this is football, it takes 10 secs to score at either end and anything can happen’ feeling. I also actually felt Wigan were very hard done by considering how much effort they put in, (but not that sorry for N’Gobby) :)

  40. DJG says:
    October 21, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    “Do you think if Kinnear hadden’t had a heart attack we might have stayed up?”

    His record as Newcastle manager suggested that we would have, DJG.

  42. Yes. I think there was absolutely no way we deserved anything from that game. If Wigan hadn’t switched off and started time waisting and trying to just hold on to the lead I think they could have had more. It was their tactics that let them down in the end, nothing that we did, throwing players on when it was nearly too late ect.

  43. Toonsy – sorry if I aimed that rant about the poll at the wrong person. It just annoyed the hell out of me.

    I disagree with the notion that just because the poll result shows support for the manager it’s ok. Just running the poll shows you’re taking that sh*te the Mail put out seriously and considering the possibility. It all just gives bullets to the press and shows a lack of faith and loyalty.
    The only appropriate reactions from a genuine fan site to that article could be complete silence or an all-out attack on garbage reporting.

  44. DJG: That post at 42 is just incredibly negative. The other way to word what you’re saying is:
    – Wigan cocked it all up, sat back and wasted their lead
    – We made attacking substitution, took the game to them and won a point.

    We got a point because we went all-out to get it when they tried to sit on it, and because we played better than they did as a result. I’ll buy that for a dollar… :)

  45. DJG – we had more possesion, more attempts and more corners.

    How the fcuk can you possibly say Wigan deserved to win??

  46. To me, we’ve been consistently just slightly too poor to get the points too many times this season. I like that; it means we don’t have far to go. Villa, Everton and Chelski were NOT fluke results (although 6-0 is perhaps a fluke score) and show that we DO have it. All we need is more fans with patience and faith…

  47. Whumpie

    ‘The only appropriate reactions from a genuine fan site to that article could be complete silence or an all-out attack on garbage reporting.’

    We’re not robots, everyone has their opinion and I think they should be entitled to it. Why worry about the papers, we are a non london club not doing very well atm, I don’t think what a couple of people say on here will have any bearing on what they write. Im pretty sure they would need some sort of permission before they could just copy and paste any poll or opinions from here anyway. Any law grads reading this?

  48. TC – DGJ is actually Eyore. He’s had Sky and internet access installed in his swamp and this is what he does now.

    Meanwhile Piglet is in a lab somewhere testing antivirals, and I think Pooh is director of finance at Northern Rock.

  49. AngelOfDeath says:
    October 21, 2010 at 4:40 pm
    DJG,batty two potential ppl getting in trouble soon here<<<<plz enlighten us

  50. For me Hughton needs to come down on him like a ton of bricks! if he needs help, offer it to him, but he also needs to know where he stands.

  51. Whumpie says:
    October 21, 2010 at 4:45 pm
    DJG: That post at 42 is just incredibly negative. The other way to word what you’re saying is:
    – Wigan cocked it all up, sat back and wasted their lead

    I thought at the time I’d never seen a team throw away a lead like Wigan did. Thats just my opinion, you can disagree with it or try and disprove it with stats all you like. Thats just what I saw at the time, you can use stats to prove or disprove anything.

  52. @batty: nah,just being bored,joking around….Like come on. ;)

    GO west Ham. Opps. 8O

    CH Shouldn’t be sacked that early. Simple as that.

    the upcoming game, though being a pessimetic guy,i still hope Newcastle players can pull themselves and prove it. 3-1 to them.

  54. The truth is West Ham is now a different side to the joke that started the season. Haven’t they now gone 5 games without a defeat or something like that?

  55. TOONSY just for you.
    just got my wife some liverpool knickers
    they are great
    2 yanks and there doon :)

  56. DJG @ 51 – fair enough; I can see your point there, even if I don’t quite agree with it.

    AOD: “CH Shouldn’t be sacked that early. Simple as that.”

    Nope, disagree – timing has nowt to do with it. To even speculate about his position is daft given what he’s done and where we are. It would be bad enough if people were over-reacting to a Liverpool-style poor start to the season. We’re exactly where we need to be, with less than half of our matches producing sub-standard performances. It’s not even a proper dip!

    I think this guy is doing better than any of our managers since SBR; he’s an absolute gem who deserves nowt but full support and respect.

  59. Hammers unbeaten in 5? That’s just the kind of record we’re excelling at ending this season!

    3-1 to us. :)

    The bad news is that I’ll be at a sodding wedding. In Slough, just in case it wasn’t bad enough…

  60. clueless is a good coach but aint a manager ,even some 1 as thick as me or toonsy could of won the championship with that team last season

  61. Whumpie

    Thats true but I would feel a lot safer if he brought a proper experienced coach in like Steve Clarke.

  63. batty says:
    October 21, 2010 at 5:07 pm
    clueless is a good coach but aint a manager ,even some 1 as thick as me or toonsy could of won the championship with that team last season’

    Your not allowed to have any sort of negative opinions on here m8 didn’t you know that. ;)

  67. DJG – agree on the coach thing. He can’t do both; it just doesn’t work. Clarke sounds a good option too, but I’m no expert.

    Right – time to gerroudahere…

    Gniggut, all..

  70. whump i was quite optomistic aboot this season m8 even backed them too finish 11th to 14 th , but i just dont think clueless has it in him ,hope iam wrong but iam not usualy just ask stu :)

  71. I just say it how I see it me. I don’t try to be negative or positive, just truthful. But at the moment I am worried. Me dad even said at the match, ‘I used to gan when they were like this son (meaning years and years ago) and I soon got sick of it’.

  72. The truth is there is now a hell of a lot of empty seats springing up, and it wasn’t on the telly, level 7 even had big gaps. :(

  74. batty says:
    October 21, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    “clueless is a good coach but aint a manager ,even some 1 as thick as me or toonsy could of won the championship with that team last season”

    Wee Jimmy Krankie inherited a team like Newcastle’s at the Smogs, and they’re still down there, batty.

  75. DJG says:
    October 21, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    “‘I used to gan when they were like this son (meaning years and years ago) and I soon got sick of it’.”

    You have inherited your father’s lack of patience by the look of things, DJG.

  76. Aye because we have the best fans in the land like, the ones who can’t be arsed when times are tough for the club they “love”

    :roll:

    Maybe it is just me, but I started going when we were shite. I’ve seen this club nearly go out of existence, as a lot of others have. It didn’t matter what was on the pitch so much because people used to go for the craic, as what was on the pitch was mainly shite anyway :)

    Ever since the Keegan bandwagon jumpers started going to SJP it has been different, far far different…

  77. They sold players like Johnson. They are a small town in yorkshire with an attendence that is humbled by some other championship teams they’ve got 4 CB’s playing across the back 4, your not trying to compare them to us are ya? Newcastle shouldn’t have been in the chumpionship full stop.

  78. DJG says:
    October 21, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    “They sold players like Johnson.”

    We sold Basson, Martins, Beye, Duff… And lost Viduka, Owen….

    “They are a small town in yorkshire with an attendence that is humbled by some other championship teams”

    Can’t argue that like :lol:

    “They’ve got 4 CB’s playing across the back 4”

    They didn’t last season.

    “Your not trying to compare them to us are ya?”

    Why not? They were more favourite than we were to get promotion…

    “Newcastle shouldn’t have been in the chumpionship full stop.”

    Why?

  79. TOONSY how dare you say we have been shite,off a bit at times,you get whats you pay for m8 in this life ;)how long do you think ive been going had to gan to the bog a few times :)

    you like@55

  80. ‘Maybe it is just me, but I started going when we were shite. I’ve seen this club nearly go out of existence, as a lot of others have. It didn’t matter what was on the pitch so much because people used to go for the craic, as what was on the pitch was mainly shite anyway’

    Aye but youve seen cup finals, champs league, top 4 finishes. I wasn’t into football as a kid, so all ive seen has been tripe. Pooness, Fat Sham, Joking Here, Cluess chris ect ect. :(

  81. DJG says:
    October 21, 2010 at 5:27 pm

    “They sold players like Johnson. They are a small town in yorkshire with an attendence that is humbled by some other championship teams they’ve got 4 CB’s playing across the back 4, your not trying to compare them to us are ya? Newcastle shouldn’t have been in the chumpionship full stop.”

    Maybe they shouldn’t, DJG. However this whole idea that Newcastle’s squad was light years ahead of the others was mistaken. When Middlesborough, Newcastle and WBA were fighting for promotion down there, Newcastle and Middlesbrough had squads of roughly the same strength in terms of financial value, with WBA not far behind. The real gulf was between those three teams, a chasing pack of teams such as Cardiff, and the rest.

  84. DJG says:
    October 21, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    “Aye but youve seen cup finals, champs league, top 4 finishes. I wasn’t into football as a kid, so all ive seen has been tripe. Pooness, Fat Sham, Joking Here, Cluess chris ect ect.”

    And you know what beats the lot of it? The top four finishes, the FA Cup finals (which we never even had a sniff of winning), the games against Barcelona etc?

    You know what beats the whole lot of them put together?

    The match in which we avoided dropping down to division 3 at the time and almost certain extinction as a club.

    That beats anything!

  86. What I find most amusing is that some of their mouthpieces (including a well know radio man) think they could still be in the playoffs, I think mid table would be a more realistic target considering the turmoil they are currently in.

  91. Ice see what happens when you ask Batty to get you a set of wheels ? he thought you meant hot wheels :)
    Reet should catch you’s in a while ;)

  92. When batty says see what they say after 3 games, does that not worry you at all. Howay man theres nowt worse than getting done off the mackems, I don’t think I will even be able to watch that game on the telly. Im just gonna sit with a can and listen to it. :(

  93. Batty at this moment in time I dont think he should so I voted NO, But I seriously thing he needs to get a grip of things and put his foot down imo .

  95. workyticket

    Aye it’s Cleiveland or something isn’t it, I should knaa I go down all the time for work.

  96. You’ll soon learn to take everything batty says with a netto valupak bag of salt, DJG. ;)

  101. CH did exceptionally well last season to get us up, but I think the argument is there that most of the ingredients were already there. Chris should be credited with instilling some confidence and spirit into a group of dispirited players.

    That said, I think he’s still learning to manage and could do with a very experienced number 2. Someone who’s not afraid to ring the changes when needed (triple substitutions under Bobby, anyone?) and who can justifiably question CH’s judgement.

    West Ham are looking good at the moment and I’d be a tad surprised by a win for our lot. Though a draw is definitely possible and we have seen the lads pull something out of the bag already this season. For me though, Routeledge has to start. The lad can’t cross to save his life, but his pace just makes so much space for AC and any midfielders who (admittedly rarely) dare to get into the box.

    Think Simpson needs to return too.

  103. DJG says:
    October 21, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    “workyticket

    Aye it’s Cleiveland or something isn’t it, I should knaa I go down all the time for work.”

    When the smog and the smell of rotten eggs stops, and the children in the street aren’t all dressed in cheesy chip stained tracksuits, then you know you’re in North Yorkshire, DJG.

  104. Only to buy my salt, batty – I get thru tons of the stuff when you’re online – was costing me a fortune! :)

  106. If you go down when it’s still dark, the furnace lights the place up and it looks like the towns on fire or something. Really quite weird. Some of the countryside past Stockton way is actually alright though.

  108. DJG says:
    October 21, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    “If you go down when it’s still dark, the furnace lights the place up and it looks like the towns on fire or something. Really quite weird. Some of the countryside past Stockton way is actually alright though.”

    DJG, Did you know that the Wilton works down there was the inspiration for Ridley Scott’s “Blade Runner”? Scott’s a smoggy, his dad used to work in the shipyards.

  109. dog at the begining of last season i sed we wouldnt lose a handfull of games and i was right ,i sed wen the leauge was close that we would run away with it stu doubted me but i was right ,i just got a bad feeling about this season as i dont think we have a decent striker were not scoring enough goals and some of cluelesses tactics are shite

  111. batty says:
    October 21, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    “i just hope were not too far adrift at the bottom come the next transfer window”

    Divven’t be daft ye big WUM. We will not be relegated.

  115. i hate chopping and changeing managers does nowt for the club,just hope hoots pulls it round like

  116. ‘Divven’t be daft ye big WUM. We will not be relegated.’

    Worky nobody wants that but we can’t just bury out heeds in the sand. I think batty’s right, we are in trouble and Ashley needs to buy a striker in Jan.

  118. BATTY i have a bad feeling about ashley like as i said before my scots contacts call him the 48hr man,thats how quickly he can change his mind

  119. After Sat I couldn’t believe it. I thought the blackpool game we player ok and it was just a blip, but this wasn’t a blip and the last time I saw us play that bad was our relegation season. I know we’ve just lost benny, but one player doesn’t make a team.

  120. icedog says:
    October 21, 2010 at 6:25 pm
    BATTY i have a bad feeling about ashley like as i said before my scots contacts call him the 48hr man,thats how quickly he can change his mind<<<< aye so he could be already lining up a new manager dog

  121. DJG i agree one man doesnt make a team,but in this case benny was a big hope like.

    can see m/u not winning the p.l.now;rooney one man can make a diff at times m8

  127. If Ashley said right I promise to give you £15 just keep us up. Could he not get someone like Curbishley or O’Neil.

  129. DJG i divnt want ash to sack hoots,but theres not much oot there o!neil likes a lot of cash to spend,hence him leaveing villa,curbs didnt do a lot at w/ham,so dont know where we could look on ashleys budget like m8

  131. batty says:
    October 21, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    “worky honest m8 iam seriously worried”

    Don’t be worried, batty, just be patient. We are heading in the right direction but we are erratic ATM. We have all the signs of a team that has been in great transition, which we have, and on it’s way to better things. Some bad luck has come our way too, and without it we may be in a much better position than we are now.

  133. Ashley will save us man. Theres no way he’ll let us go down again and potentially loses hundreds of millions. When the time is right Ashley will act.

  138. DJG says:

    “I know we’ve just lost benny, but one player doesn’t make a team”

    Since the performance at Everton he’d have become something of a talisman for the rest of the squad, especially for those who played with him in that game.

    So never underestimate the power of the mind DJG, those feelings of “We wont get beaten now that HBA is in our side” were extinguished almost as quickly as they appeared. :(

  139. ice,
    all depends on one of my ‘ammers’ mates.
    He’s got a spare ticket, said i could have it, but as the game gets closer he’s starting to bottle it. He’s a bit worried about me sitting next to him in the home end.
    I said i’ll be good, but he feels that i won’t be able to keep me trap shut.
    We’ll see. About 40-60 atm.
    Gonna let us know the morra.
    Here’s hoping!
    ;)

  143. “Isn’t that just for whammers?”

    Just turn up at the gates with a tub of jellied eels and a copy of BNP News tucked under your arm and they’ll never know the difference :)

  144. DJG says:
    October 21, 2010 at 7:03 pm

    “So I was right, the bugger tricked me.”

    I didn’t trick you, DJG. It HAS been a “unitary authority” in the “ceremonial” county of “North Yorkshire” since the ‘nineties, but that isn’t a county, and it isn’t Yorkshire. It’s bollocks, basically, and no-one knows where anything is anymore.

  145. Ok,
    sounds good.

    They sound a bit desperate, might take ’em up on that.
    Always a bit strange sat on y’todd like.

  147. CLiNT FLiCK says:
    October 21, 2010 at 7:33 pm

    “Andy,

    Sounds like a plan.”

    Clint, divven’t forget to say “fahkin” between every other word too.

  150. and when you’re in the ground say “Saw id”, please remember the “t” is silent as in the missing H. Arry, Enry, Amstead Eeeeff

  151. CLiNT FLiCK says:
    October 21, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    “worky,
    & all the other words unintelligible.”

    Clint, that is a little ironic coming from a Geordie like! :-)

  155. Toon Chicken says:
    October 21, 2010 at 6:47 pm
    £15? And batty calls chris clueless<<<< tc now stu dusent bite your tryin me :) ok slug iam not biting