Everton 0-1 Newcastle – Toffee’s come unstuck at Goodison.

Posted on September 18th, 2010 | 283 Comments |

Hatem Ben Arfa - A full debut goal from the Frenchman.
Hatem Ben Arfa - A full debut goal from the Frenchman.
Well that was certainly unexpected. Not so much the performance as they have been fine in the main so far this season, but the result most definately had a hint of unexpectancy surrounding it.

The reality is that Newcastle deserved their win despite Everton looking below-par. They deserved to take the three points back to Tyneside this evening and the 2,500 travelling fans deserved to have something to cheer about for their efforts – Once again they were magnificent.

Much debate was had before the match regarding the team selection and whether or not Chris Hughton would ring a few changes. It’s his job to make tough decisions, and that is what he did today by handing both Cheick Tiote and Hatem Ben Arfa their full debuts in the black and white stripes at the expense of Alan Smith and Jonas Gutierrez. It was a decision that ultimately paid dividends.

Newcastle were by far the better team in the first half and could have gone a goal up inside 10 minutes had Jose Enrique’s cross found the head of anyone except Wayne Routledge who put his header wide of the target.

Everton had a brief attacking moment and maybe could have taken the lead had Phil Jagielka got his header on target, but ultimately it was still Newcastle who held on to the ascendancy. Joey Barton forced a save from Tim Howard as he shot a free-kick towards the top right corner of the goal, and Howard was called into action again as he was forced to tip Kevin Nolan’s deflected cross over the crossbar.

Then came the low point of the afternoon for Newcastle as Steve Harper fell on his shoulder just after the half-hour mark. To me it looked like a dislocated shoulder, and for a goalkeeper that can be a hell of an injury. Tim Krul now looks set to recieve an extended run in the first team whilst there could now be the possibility of Fraser Forster being recalled prematurely from his loan spell at Celtic.

This being Newcastle, that low point turned into a high point on the stroke of half-time as Hatem Ben Arfa produced one of those moments of magic that has kept us talking all summer long. Ben Arfa picked the ball up 25-yards from goal and jinked past John Heitinga before unleashing an unstoppable shot that flew past Tim Howard and into the back of the Everton net. 1-0 to Newcastle at half-time.

The home side made a couple of changes at half-time as they looked to assert themselves on the game. It worked aswell as Everton turned the screw for a brief period at the start of the second-half with Tim Krul saving from Yakubu and Leon Osman skewing way wide from only 8-yards out.

Newcastle continued to retain the ball well, with both debutants looking mightily impressive throughout. On this evidence it will be hard for any player to force them out of the team. Cheick Tiote looked like a seasoned Premier League player and displayed some great tackling ability, some good touches, a bit of vision, an eye for a shot and a physical presence and athleticism I personally haven’t seen at Newcastle for a long time. And lets not forget Ben Arfa who continued to dazzle on his ful debut. In fact at one point I counted that he had beaten six players whilst keeping the ball under his full control.

Newcastle had claims for a stonewall penalty turned down 13 minutes from time as Seamus Coleman clattered straight through the back of Kevin Nolan and took him out as he was about to shoot after being put clean through on goal. A harsh decision on Newcastle, and ultimately the replays proved it was the wrong one.

Everton huffed and puffed towards the final whistle and despite going close twice in injury time through Yakubu and Fellaini, they never really looked like they were going to get back in the game and it finished 1-0 to the away side.

All in all a very impressive performance, even if it is tinged with a hint of sadness surrounding the injury to Steve Harper. I don’t remember a player in black and white having a bad game to be honest, but there is still a hell of a long way to go until we are safe from relegation. This result makes up for Blackpool last weekend, and Newcastle will now have to try and build on this result next Sunday against Stoke. Oh and one more thing………

The H-Bomb has landed!

Everton – Tim Howard, Tony Hibbert, John Heitinga, Sylvain Diston, Phil Jagielka, Leighton Baines, Mikel Arteta, Leon Osman, Marouane Fellaini, Stephen Pienaar, Jermaine Beckford.

Subs – Jan Mucha, Phil Neville, Seamus Coleman, Magaye Gueye, Diniyar Bilyaletdinov, Yakubu, Barklay.

Newcastle – Steve Harper, James Perch, Mike Williamson, Fabricio Coloccini, Jose Enrique, Wayne Routledge, Cheick Tiote, Joey Barton, Hatem Ben Arfa, Kevin Nolan, Andy Carroll.

Subs – Tim Krul, Ryan Taylor, Sol Campbell, Alan Smith, Jonas Gutierrez, Shola Ameobi, Peter Lovenkrands.

Attendance – 38,019.

Referee – Andre Marriner.

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  1. Just like to get in early and say I (unpopularly) choose Ben Arfa and Titoe to start the game.

  2. SJT – If you see “H-Bomb” anywhere regarding Ben Arfa, let me know and I’ll hunt the fecker down and mutilate their testicles.

    That is my tagline and nee fecking other website is is having it :D

  3. Little bit of self praise like, but I reckon you will struggle to find a better match report than this one like. Pretty pleased with it ;)

  4. i don’t think forster will be called back~~~

    maybe Ole Soderberg on bench as back-up to krul?

  5. Shame about Harper’s injury, might be difficult for him to get back in the team if Krul has a good run, I think we have to recall Forster although I’m not sure he’ll be too happy about sitting on the bench as opposed to starting at Celtic

  6. Toonsy could they not leave Forster where he is and sure if worst comes to the worst then we could call him back ? I know what ye mean but it would be a sin to bring him back to warm the bench when he is now getting some 1st team experience ;)

  7. Brilliant start to the day, I must say. Well, this is Krul’s big chance. It will be very interesting to see how he performs day in and day out in the Prem. Looks like he won’t be playing in the league cup after all. Glad to hear that the new lads both featured and looked the part. Some squad depth is a good thing!

  8. Tiote looks quality as a DM strong with quick feet, i thought him a Barton were fantastic today the way they moved the ball around.

  9. By the way, i would just like to give James Perch massive credit for his performance today. I have heard all sorts about his positioning, but his work in that area today was superb. There were plenty of times where Arteta would drift over to his left looking to slot a ball through to Pienaar in between Williamson and Perch. Everytime Perch tucked in and cut out the option. Look out for it on Football first if you can. Very good defending.

  10. I’m so pleased with the results, decent start of the season!
    Unfortunately didn’t see the game, only text commentaries, how did Tiote do? I heard that Barton was fantastic though.

  11. hahaha i knew hed b good sorry OM ( maresille) all my friends are gutted he left them but good news 4 us and looks like we gota cracker with us!!!

  12. Credit to Hoots for making the (not so) hard decisions on Tiote and HBA. The two improve the team by 50%. Tiote is hard as nails, can pass and get forward and HBA has the pure talent to unlock any defence.
    Well set up with Nolan playing a bit deeper and HBA given a bit of free reign. All the midfield played well.
    We now need to find a RB. Maybe Collo will slot in there next week and give Campbell a go with big Willi against the Stoke bombardment.

    Well done to all. Wages well earned.

  13. Like i mentioned Ole Soderberg will be back-up to krul now on….till Harper recovers……

    If Krul does get injured**touchwood**…Soderberg gets on,then there will be no choice but to call back forster.

    As for now,is not wise to call back forster yet.

  14. Forster can’t be recalled, as far as I am aware.

    Full season loans, international loans and cross border loans have to run their course, do they not?

    Like with Man City last season.

  15. Toonsy – I thought nolan was average again, sorry.

    We all acknowledge his goals ratio last season – and how valuable he is when we are playing high up the pitch and the ball’s rattling around the box, but arfa’s mastery in setting up his team mates with clear chances just served to expose the lask of pace, mobility and ruthless finishing that lingers in the side.

    When the pitch is stretched – especially away from home – Nolan’s effectiveness is automatically reduced, he fails to link up with carroll and stymies the attacking play… it’s an issue – as is Carroll’s dawdling on his right foot.

    don’t want to sound negative but we aren’t the finished article and VERY nearly paid for missed chances to grab a second on the break.

  16. Stoke will be interesting. Pulis has tried to add more quality and graft to his side, but in doing so he has sacrificed some of the sheer heart, determination and spirit that was contributed from some of the lesser quality players.

  17. Boater

    Nolan would have scored today if it wasn’t for that ridiculous foul from Coleman. I thought he played well today. His passing was crisper than usual and he made some good runs into space.

  18. I think this thread (and others) seems to have blocked the one hundred and one great goals link that I’ve tried to post at least five times.

    So go to 101greatgoalsdotcom and then add videodisplay/hatem-ben-arfa-everton-6916804/ to the url and you should get HBA’s sweet shot. :)

  19. El Toro – don’t want to sound too negative about nolan – if you read my comments I make the point that he is effective in some games more than others – when we are away he tends to do less well as he fails to keep pace with the counter attacks..

    he did also stray offside and fail to finish a smashing chance 1st half,, hughton shouldn’t be afraid to mix it up and try two strikers – or with someone else off carroll – that’s all I ‘m saying.

  20. Re Nolan, good inspiration, however want to see both the H Bomb and LoverBoy creating chances for and feeding off AC.

  21. I’d still like to see us try out a 4-3-3 against weaker opposition at home sometime.

    McLovin, Carroll, and Ben Arfa leading the attack with a fit Guthrie, Nolan, and Barton in the middle. I think that could annhilate weaker teams.

  22. Just watched the Hughton interview – we have a proper manager at the toon these days. intelligent, bright, considered, fair and a credit to the club.

    Is it time to start thinking about that extension? Couldn’t stand the thought of him being poached now.

  23. I’m just going to enjoy Arfa while I can. If he glides past people like he did today regular he won’t be with us too long.

    He would cause havoc though the middle in my opinion, but that would mean dropping Nolan and he probably doesn’t deserve that.

  24. Well great birthday present for me today and definetley not one i was expecting. Away win at Goodison! Well done Chris and the lads especially Ben Arfa and Tiote

  25. Thing is, if he does what he did today regulalry he will have no need to move on. He will hopefully see us as a team he can develop with rather than a stepping stone.

    Hopeful thinking eh :lol:

  26. Happy Birthday Deb have a good one funny enough my 3rd Granddaughter was just born today aswell :) . I said earlier that it might be in our favour that no one expected us to get owt and that Benny could get the winner so all in all its been a brill day for me ;)

  27. G.D. happy birthday and many of them.

    havent seen any copper or out knocking aboot,batty and us a bit short like ;)

  28. Thanks icedog and Dave and many congrats on the new grand daughter – more baby sitting duties winging your way Dave?

  29. Ice – As far as I am aware that is the case mate. That would mean that personal details have already been sorted out and signed aswell I assume.

  30. You and Batty should have had a bet on, Batty predicted 1-1-0 or 2-1 to us. Good day all round then Dave

  31. LUCKY mackems again!!!~~ Bent save their *** again.~~~

    No worry~~

    Newcastle will take the revenge for arsenal and go beat them.

    :lol: :lol:

  32. Ice after running round looking after the other 2 Grand Daughters this week I am starting to feel abit older but today has been worth it :) , and im 99% that we have a deal in place to sign him for £7 mil after 25 games

  33. Thanks Toonsy – always 21 in my head! Does anyone still remember the Burgundy Cobbler i think it was called in Whitley Bay?, think it was the first club I ever visited..

  34. didnt like guy in pre-match on bbc saying c.h. has his work cut out with benny with his past,makes anelka look like mr smiley as well cheeky get

  35. No Dave, wish i was, but moved away when i was 19 to do my nurse training in London and never ended back there to live. Now based in Leicestershire pretty settled here but still hankering after a move back when the time is right. I always have to have my fix of anything Newcastle related. I’m away a lot as you know, so leave tomorrow and miss watchng the great north run which i usually do every year, so have sky plus’d it or whatever it’s called so can watch it when I’m back. Just love seeing the city and the area, no better feeling than crossing the Tyne Bridge, you know you’re home – priceless

  36. Deb – I know what you mean. Nowt beats that feeling of passing Scotch Corner. Kind of like ‘I’m nearly home’ kind of thing :)

  37. Can anyone from the management side of nufcblog confirm that I’m wasting my time posting links to 101greatgoals ?

    As five posts have disappeared down the toilet until I worked it out :)

  38. How can Short and Vile Niall applaud that dross, The shit aimed at Stoke for playing ugly long ball football is harsh as they are no worse than Cauliflower faces kick and rush brigade.

    Fecking Darren Bent, I would love an long term injury for him and then see how those filthy pieces of scum get on, They would be down by christmas… :twisted:

  39. AndyMac – Maybe it’s because of the length of the link? If it’s too long the spam filter will gobble it up as it thinks this place is under attack.

    To stop it, put any long links through http://www.tinyurl.com and post the shortened link.

    Also, some links just plain don’t work. Myp2p is a funny one at times aswell.

    For peace of mind there is a link to the goals earlier in the comments anyway ;)

  40. Brilliant result! I would have been happy with a fighting loss and good performance, and a draw would have been a brilliant result, but all three points is awesome, even if technically it would have been better to beat blackpool in terms of relegation..it feels good to win at Goodison. Nice to see all the scousers have crawled back into their council houses as well :). I thought Tiote would have been a must start and played well from what I can gather..and Arfa obvs deserved in start in place of spiderman.
    Anyone got a full match replay like :) would appreciate it!

    Shame about the Scum though…bloody flukers! (even if Arsenals’ goal was a fluke)

  41. Where is that Everton laarrrrrrrrr? Moyesboyz was it? The one giving it the biggun. Seems to have gone quiet for some reason…….

  42. Ahh, I never get tired of thinkin about Newcastle winnin at Goodison park today. Almost as much of a shocker as the Villa game. I hope the lads aren’t too bruised up today. I certainly hope Harper comes back soon. Though in all fairness, Krul may well be a better option.

  43. OHURLEY aye m8 ime happy with krul,would just like to see him work on crosses into the box a bit more,but he will get there imo

  44. always play your best players..people who said ben arfa or tiote shouldnt start or the other day clowns were saying play ameobi and loven for carrol..with out ben arfa and tiote we wouldnt have won..so please come on these so called people who said that.. what are u saying about this match.said to u all ben arfa gets his head together we will have the best player in this league..people who said we shouldnt sign him..must have been mad..we need goals in this team and he provides that..so will gosling..

  45. Excellent stuff. What a damn shame Scummies scored in the last kick of the game with, you guessed it, Bent. It was actually 15 secs after end of extra time, never though Phil Dowd was a good referee tbh.

    Glad hoots finally saw sense and played our better players. Tiote was a breath of fresh air and Benny was, well magnificent going forward. He will frighten the life out of any defence in the prem if he did that to Everton. Good times. Like the idea of moving Collo to RB and giving Campbell a run out for Stoke game. After watching him against Chelsea he is nearly there.

  46. This has got to be the best looking team we have had in a long long time! Maybe since Shearer was in the side… Or maybe im getting carried away. Strength, depth(ish), team spirit, tactically sound (imo)

    Low expectations make wins like this even more SWEET!

  47. Where’s Bowburn Bag? I need my last minute tips for the GNR.

    Who’s our next league game against and where?

  48. Soz toonsy,
    i saw someone refer to HBA as H-Bomb last week on a blog mate.
    Don’t shoot the messenger like.
    Sorry to bring bad tidings(piss on y’chips).

    Glad to see CH went with my little scheme of Tiote for Smith & HBA for Jonas.

    We are the Geordies!

  49. icedog u cant beat players in midfied who score goals..he has already scored against manu and liverpool and knows how to score..u look at jonas luv him to bits but goes to pieces in the box..if ben arfa wasnt playing from the start and it was jonas then we wouldnt have scored that goal..people should no your best player must play not sat on the bench..

  50. Stuart-I’m counting on Benny becoming a cult hero inside a season, with him realising he loves the club, area and fans, the fans love him, he realises the club could be going places and decides he’ll stay and be one of our star men regardless of inevitible interest (should he keep performing the way he did today)…Wishful thinking but im going with it, lol.

  51. CLiNT FLiCK says:
    September 18, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    One that we will be expected to win and has all the ingredients of Blackpool all over again.

    I also think the last player we had as good on the ball as Arfa was Ginola.

  52. Think some things we have going for ourselves with Arfa is like
    1: He’s said he wants PL football, so hopefully that rules out most European big boys.
    2: Newcastle..in terms of status, are a team that should be playing in Europe, maybe not CL (yet :) ) but Europa league for sure and we have the capacity and fans to make ut possible, so hopefully that will jump us over a lot of other teams who we’ll be fighting it with
    3: Hopefully liverpool will crash and burn into bankrupty :) and at least he’s guaranteed a start with us (hopefully) unlike ManU/Chelsk/-Think ManC will be the ones to watch…if they come along and over him 200k a week like we’ll be in trouble, so hopefully they have a shite season and get knocked out of Europe! Seriously hope the lad bonds with us and we can hang onto him.

  53. Stu,
    aye mate,
    we MUST guard against complacency this time.
    This team could be the first 11 for a while.

    could’ve been mate, but it wasn’t on here.

  54. NewkieBroon,

    I hope you’re right mate, cos it would be a dream to keep Ben Arfa. I’d love to see him commit to a 5 year deal worth a pretty chunk of change, as I think he will produce and will add to our stature as a club. Hopefully other good players like him will want to come play for us. We could definitely use another fast striker.

  55. Stu,
    i think he’s better than Ginola like.
    Only needs about another half a dozen goals now too.
    Ginola was great, didn’t score enough, but when he did, wow!
    Think HBA could be a bit more consistent too.
    Tiote is the dogs too.
    At last, a proper DM.
    Whey hey!

  56. Clint-

    My best mate sittin’ here with me at work just saw your name and commented that it sounds like a name he’d use if he was in porn! HAHAHA, mint! :D

  57. got to give H-BOMB to TOONSY hands doon,i think every man and his dog read anything and everything leading up to and after the signing of benny, toonsy put it on the end of one post before anyone even thought about it.

  58. O’H,
    could be like, :)
    but it’s a bit more crafty & angry than that mate.
    & they can’t touch y’for it.

  59. Not to be rude or what,i kinda felt amuse when barton,ben arfa,and tiote all down to the ground at the same point of time.

    Is like domino effect. :lol:

    Next match chelsea,hope CH doesn’t change Much,but would still love Haris Vuckic in place of Nolan

    Then is either Smith or Tiote starts. Up front might be back to Peter and Shola or Ranger~~

    Both ranger and Vuckic should start,their performance during the reserve game were class.

  60. CLINT agree m8 with D.M.got a bit of pace,timeing on tackle was good,and got forward at the right time too,right bundle of enegy imo

  61. OHurley

    Yeah he would be a quality keep no doubt. Thing is though theres still plenty of things that could gan against us, luckily the lad was relatively under the radar when we got him..but if he becomes a fixture for France? Plus we’ve seen what the Marseille management are like..wouldn’t suprise me for Arfa to have a brilliant season and then them start asking 15mil for him instead of 5 :(

    Out of our control though I guess, lets hope he has a good solid season (but not too great :) ) and we stay up and keep the lad. Its been a fair while since NUFC have grabbed players that turn into super stars..usually we get supposed stars and turn them into flops. Here’s hoping Tiote can be a star eh!

  62. ice,
    i reckon Tiote will give extra confidence to the back line too, which in turn should help Krul in goal for a bunch of games. beckford, what a c***.

    Nice to see moyes giving us no credit whatsoever, saying they didn’t perform, when we out played them & even the ref couldn’t stop us this week.

  63. Newkie-

    Yeah, I could actually see him doing that. Let’s hope for a fairy tale finish though :D

    I’m wrackin’ my brain trying to come up with somethin’ for you lot to chant about Ben Arfa lol

  64. ice,
    cos their cliched, ill/uninformed blurb is coming back at them & making them look silly.
    ’bout time.
    Pity the refs are still treating us like mugs though.

  65. CLiNT FLiCK
    Tell me about it mate ;)
    Down with the F.A I say!
    Until we break into the top 4 and start getting our own Ref’s at least eh?

  66. Newkie,
    totally agree mate.
    Sack the fa(sweet fa), they’re a waste of space, do nowts.

    even that report from an evertonian says Barton was top man.

  67. “The contrast in the attitudes of the managers was evident before a ball had been kicked, as Moyes again went for a lone forward supported by a woefully one-dimensional, pace free and inept midfield, whilst Hughton combined two wide players with pace and flair with two seasoned schemers in Joey Barton and Kevin Nolan who are both good for a goal on any given day”

    Deja vu anyone ?

  68. Clint just checked it up, was a good read-maybe Toonsy can pick up some journo tips from that lad too eh? :) but seriously , much nicer to see other clubs’ fans on their own blogs..generally seem a better bunch than the ones that seem to visit here and make complete tw@ts of themselves. And Barton for MOM from him! Good effort!

  69. AndyMac-Don’t get what ya mean mate? Are you against the 4-5-1? Don’t tell me you think we should have scored more today! :) Or do you just mean uninspired selection vs blackpool or summit?

  70. This might sound a bit strange but I think our problem this season may be scoring goals. We pass the ball very well, our movements good but we don’t get many men in the box.

    Just an observation.

  71. “Or do you just mean uninspired selection vs blackpool or summit?”

    Spot on NB. That’s what we were like last week so maybe CH (knowing what his team can do) can throw off some of the negative shackles ?

  72. Newkie,
    very magnanimous write up i thought.
    Great to see a proper football fan from another team be very fair, respect to the lad.
    aye mate,
    Just like when we clap a player from the oppo who has a great game at SJP.
    I like.

  73. Clint @ 121 cheers mate I thought that was a real good round up ;)
    It made me think with all the talk about spark plugs etc Ice did you get that scooter of yours fixed after that Radge Batty wrecked it on ye carrying all that scrap on it

  74. Agree about Barton. Don’t forget this is the first season he’s had with us that he’s had a pre season. The lads quality, you can see it when he passes the ball first time and his dead ball quality is high too.

  75. Stu,
    i agree, but what i would say is: if we can defend like last season, it’ll be like points in the bag.
    If we can keep building from the back, we’re in with a chance.
    The best teams have the best defense.
    All we need now is some fair reffing & we’re quids in.

  76. Aye Barton likes to play quick triangles & encourages good football, on the floor.
    Howay Joey!

  77. Big D,
    i’m always more interested how the other teams fans seen it after a game.
    It puts what us lot say into perspective.

  78. BTW Toonsy I tried submitting the above post (No 136) with the tiny’d thread to HBA’s goal and it wouldnt allow it. When I removed the tiny’d link the above message occurred.

    The tiny link is http://tinyurl.com then followed immediately afterwards by /3yjhmma

    Is this a classic “Big Brother” manoeuvre because the site that has the goals clips is a russian one (ru tube) and no amount of pressure from the Premier League would stop them from showing the goals ? However if Murdoch and Sky were involved then thats another kettle of greedy grabbing piranha

  79. AndyMac-Fairplay, Hughton deserved some of the stick he got, some of it was nonesense of course, but I think he proved he can shake it up, and proved it well today-Smith paid for terrible mistake and Jonas has paid for being largely dissappointing, not massively, but Tiote and Arfa came on and did brilliant jobs for us. I wouldn’t have been happy if Hughton had kept the same line up, but fairplay to him, he stuck with it when he should have against bpool ( I would have only brought arfa on earlier) and he made the important game-winning call today imo. As far as formation goes-I’ll take all the boring 4-5-1 1-0 victories we get if it means survival. Still I get what you mean like.

    Clint-Aye mate..suprising all the Boo boys for Moyes mind, would have killed for him two seasons ago like :) I guess its frustrating for them to have these bad start, but still a quality manager I’d say.

  80. wow, what a great result today. Managed to get to watch the game live on TV and we were well worth our win.
    We passed the ball with speed and accuracy, and had Everton really struggling at times. First half we were excellent, and what a superb goal from Hatem, I’d be interested to get the kmh count on that screamer. Second half Everton picked up the pace, but we had an absolute stone wall penalty turned down, god knows what the ref was thinking. Pity about the goalie being injured, anywhere but England and Beckford would and should have been sent off, the ball was running easily to Harper and the numpty had no need to put a tackle in. Still, we’ll get to see how Krul does now, he’s a confident young lad and he’ll do ok.
    All in all a great performance from the lads. And believe me boys and girls, if he keeps his head right Ben Arfa could be one of the best players EVER to play for the toon in my opinion. He has such superb close control and acceleration that he goes past players as if they were standing still.
    As far Everton, take the lad with the big hair out of their team and they didn’t threaten at all. A fully deserved win for the lads in black and white. Get in there !!

  81. Newkie,
    aye, but moyes always evades blame & very rarely gives credit to the other team when he loses. Not very classy that.
    He’s done well at everton on little cash.
    Though the decent cash he has had, after big sales, hasn’t really been that well spent. £15m for fellaini, eek!

  82. NewkieBrown > Clint-Aye mate..suprising all the Boo boys for Moyes mind, would have killed for him two seasons ago like I guess its frustrating for them to have these bad start, but still a quality manager I’d say.

    I’m a great believer in that you never really know what you have or how good they are, untill you dont have them anymore. I’m sure there is a fair few Villa supporters are now wishing they had of stuck with MON ;)

  83. Batty im good mate cheers, just became a granda for the 3rd time today so I had to miss the match which is the 1st time in ages, and wouldn’t ye know it sounded like a cracker and there was good streams aswell :) so cant wait to see MOTD later hows yer good self ;)

  84. Well Barton was cr@p last week so he was never gonna go to scouse land and under perform was he. Benny and Tiote are a different class to our other players; but everyone was v good today. Roll on MoTD.

  85. Clint

    Aye he might dodge giving out credit, but at the end of the day I wouldn’t pick any top flight manager for a mate-apart from Zola, such a nice guy! But whether he’s even managerial quality is debateable :) Moyes is a saint compared to Fergie and some other scots! Agree with his transfers as well, he’s one you think “blimey they’re doing well on little cash” but still somehow manage to make big slip ups.

    Big Dave
    Aint that the truth! Look at when we were in their position with Bobby. I say “we” I think most of us myself included were fine with top 5, but certainly voices were out there saying he couldn’t get us any further, and look where we went from there! He made mistakes like, but Fergie does that plenty enough even now, and look at Arsenal tonight! Yet they’re the best managers in the English game? Bobby was the best we ever had.

  86. Batty aye it is mate she was a month early but doing well ;) match choice ??
    NewkieBrown ;) I think its just human nature mate the more ye get the more ye want

  87. Dave
    Yeah, happens to us all I guess, although I think relegation might have brought all toons down to earth like…hopefully long enough for us to rebuild propperly, I suppose if we did well this season then no better in the next, the calls for “Hughton out” would be ringing loud and clear.

  88. Clint-That Evertonian rips them a new one in that post match write up, calls Ben Arfa’s performance “world class” and generally makes us sound very good, lol. Intrigued to see MOTD now, i’ve held out watching Benny’s goal until now so i’m looking forward to it.
    All in all, an excellent write up making us sound thoroughly dominant and a far, far better team than them in every aspect on the day. Cheers, Mr Evertonian! lol.

  89. Shit, it’s about time motd got into the 21st century & went HD.
    That’s what y’license fee doesn’t go on.

  90. Clint-My immediate impression is that he’s being slightly harsh given the fact they most probably didn’t expect to lose to us. Might watch football first after MOTD and get a better look at the game.

  91. Aye mate,
    but the way he talks it sounds like he knows what he’s on about.
    He’s bound to be a bit pissed, but he still says good things about us, rather than just slag everton off.
    Always the mark of a fair write up.

  92. Clint-True, he rips into them but its not like he’s bitter in saying “they’re crap aswell, so god knows how we lost”, he stops to mention that along with them being poor, we were good, which like you say is the sign of a canny write up, given the fact he’s able to see both sides of the story.

    On another note, I hate Mick Mccarthy and I hope Wolves implode this season. The man is an idiot. “We’re a good footballing side, I’m sick of talking about tackles”
    ..Don’t send your team out with the sole purpose of kicking teams that are technically better than you, you doylem.

  93. Ross,
    mm is a complete tool, isn’t he?
    How dare he suggest they don’t hack? what a mong.
    They’ll get found out.

  94. Clint-On the subject of WBA, I was meaning to say earlier that Odemwingie was a gamble but he still looks a canny player.
    MM is an idiot. I dont know what game he’s watching when he waxes lyrical about his brilliant footballing side. They’re a bunch of thugs.

    Here we go, Benny time :D

  95. That’s a brilliant strike from Benny. Gets it out his feet and smashes it. Top notch :D.

    Also, that’s f*ckin dirty from Fellaini and a quite blatantly penalty on Nolan. They should have been down to 10 men and chances are we’d have stuck then penner away.

  96. Fellani should have been off, and we should have had a pen, if anything we could have been 2-0+ but oh well, got the win and thats all that matters like.

  97. Amazing that fellaini stayed on.
    Glad he missed a sitter though. Ha :)
    What do y’have to do to get a pen, ridiculous!

    Shearer man, you agree with moyes that we ‘stifled’ them. No we played ’em off the pitch.
    Better possession, more shots, corners & how did we end up with more yellows.
    Does me heed in.

  98. Ross the bloke on Match Choice was saying Fellaini shouldn’t have been booked for hitting Williamson.

  99. Gutted for Harper too, pole-axed by a lower league ‘challenge’.
    He’s off it that’s against a ‘top 4’ team.

  100. Clint/Lacedaemonian-As it was pointed out on MOTD, Fellaini was booked for the “Challenge”..The offence is a straight red, quite clearly. If the ref has seen it, how does he justify only showing him a yellow?
    Also, whomever the lineo was today should be hung. You can claim the referee couldn’t see the challenge on Nolan (which is a terrible excuse anyway because he should be keeping up with play for 90 minutes)..but for the lineo not to see that? It’s THE most blatant penalty i’ve seen for a long time, how does no one give that?

    The Beckford challenge on Harps was a poor one but it’s the landing that forces the injury. A booking was what it deserved because it was wreckless but I think he’d have been fine had he not landed awkwardly, sadly that wasn’t the case.

    Another quick point-Benny better hope he’s starting next week. If not and he’s introduced as a sub the fourth official is definitly discovering the fact he smothers his boots in glue before he takes to the field. Either that,or we might just have another Ginola on our hands? :D

  101. Oh i dunno like Ross,
    beckford slides in from the blind side & coulda broke Harper’s leg or mashed his ankle.
    HBA is so much quicker than Ginola & more determined.
    Real skill on the lad.
    & A brilliant debut by Tiote.

  102. Lace-It was just canny refreshing to see a player take the ball, keep it close to his feet and just glide past defenders like they’re not even there. He made poor old Hibbert look awful when he cut inside, strolling past them at what looked like half pace.

    The only bad thing? Players will sit up, take notice and just bring him down when it’s their turn to try and stop him. Regardless, he looked brilliant against a team that you wouldnt regard as “mid table” or “relegation fight candidates”. Even the goal was made out of nothing. He went past a man into space, had time, put his foot on the ball, shifted it onto his left and unleashed a bullet, very satisfying to see in B&W :D

  103. Clint-I’ll take another look at the Beckford challenge mate, I was more just looking to see how Harps landed after i’d heard it was a potential collar bone.

    As for Benny at SJP, I remember him saying he’d already thought about scoring for us when he signed. Must have felt the dogs B*ll*cks when he saw that whirler hit the net the day like!

  104. Was good cause before today most oppositions were worried about Carroll, and keeping an eye on Nolan’s runs, but now with Arfa we’ve got some good attacking versatility.

  105. Ross,
    aye, check it mate.
    He’s blind side/behind, late as, studs up, standing leg.
    Honestly, if you add the Nolan pen, fellaini’s assault on Williamson to that, you’d swear the ‘officials’ were all on everton’s pay roll.
    I don’t often say it, but i’m ‘disgusted’ with the lack of protection our players have had from the refs so far this season.

    HBA could take us to a new level, along with Tiote.

  106. Aye Newkie,
    options, at last.
    451 can easily become 433 now.
    Nolan was perfect for today, got stuck right in.

  107. Yeah, from what MOTD showed and what I heard on the radio Nolan seemed sharp, heck he even outpaced someone on MOTD to get his cross in :)

    Watching all the matches though its struck me-the quality of all the officials, refs and linesmen has been really poor this season-I mean we always remember those that go against us, but is it just me or are there more poor decisions this early in the season than anyone can remember?

  108. It’s crazy how Enrique barely gets a mention on here when he plays well. That’s not a pop at you lot. It just shows how far he has come along since first joining. People now expect to see him put in 8, 9 or even 10 rated performances. Quality player.

  109. El Toro
    Gotta agree mate, always solid at the back and is often brilliant coming forward, was impressed with how he linked with Arfa today like, was a bit worried he’d be lost without Spidy-undoubtably one of our best players but doesn’t often get a mention because of his usual consistency :)

  110. i thought Nolan was great today…he was all over the pitch, made great tackles, showed some composed, crisp passing and great leadership. He also had a couple of great chances to score.
    He played great today and was a great captain.

  111. The commentators for our game on Football first are f***ing bell ends! Especially the supporting commentator. How can they even try to justify the referee not giving the stone wall penalty against Nolan. Mugs!

  112. Also, where does the ref and linesman get off giving a corner for Fellaini’s bent shot at the end!? Never a corner. Have to be proud of the lads today. Even with the poor officiating we got the 3 points. Well done.

  113. Newkie,
    the refs are getting worse mate it’s not just you. :)
    It’s pathetic how shite they are. Technology NOW & more eyes around the pitch, they just can’t keep up.
    Jose has been excellent for ages, & you could see he would be from the get go. Fat sam got that one bang on.
    ToonKing, also i think you’ll find that Nolan got a touch on that one against the post for everton at the death too.

  114. Clint
    Yeah I can’t see why we don’t follow Rugby’s example and use the video ref-and with rugby trying to decipher a try can take a while even for the video-but football, all you need is like the three angles that everyone watching on TV can see and you’d probably wipe out about 90% of foul inconsistencies, unbelieveable that something isn’t done about it. Spose it will take Real, Barca, Manure and Chelski to all start whining to get the game changed, but then most decisions seem to go their way anyway..

  115. Whoa,
    Steady on folks.
    Great performance from HBA, but he aint a Ginola yet.
    Steady on for those that never saw Wor Daveed play.

  116. Newkie,
    bang on mate.
    They say it’s cos ‘grass roots’ won’t have ‘tech evidence’. What a bullsh argument that is though.
    You don’t see ‘hawkeye’ or whatever at lower league rugby, cricket, tennis or any other sport. It’s just a f***ing crap excuse not to change, partly cos their fave teams would lose more often.
    The ‘top few’ around europe would shit themselves if it was a totally level playing field. Can’t wait for the spending curbs to come in & spoil their advantage.
    We might see some proper football management then, & not who can buy the league most.

  117. Seen Ginola play plenty & HBA has the potential to make us forget Ginola was even here. Apart from his ferencvaros & manusa goals.

    There’s only one french Geordie, only one french Geordie…

    There’s a chant for ya.


  118. Clint

    Aye, we don’t need any sort of super telescopic device that only NASA can cook up, a bloody hand held camcorder could do the job twice as well as the best refs out there. Give the ref a mic and a headset, get him to double check with a TV official every now and then on decisions, or even give him the go-ahead to talk straight to the ref on decisions. A video ref would be scrutinised far more closely, so any sort of foul play would easily be looked into whereas referees can often just wave claims away. On the other side I suppose it could slow games down a little, but on the other hand if decisions were made correctly more often then that might stop consistent fouling or even people thinking they can get away with dirty tactics.

    An I don’t mean to sound a bit racist like but unfortunately Italy seems to have a fair old influence throughout FIFA and the footballing world…and we all know what they’re like :) Look at their bloody politicians and Berlusconi their PM for god’s sake! Juve and the other Ity clubs have been at it for ages, but I reckon spanish and english clubs must have a hand in it too like. Like you said, the new spending rules should be interesting..not quite sure how they’re going to limit clubs with “only spending what they make” its quite a vague term like…but still, good for Newcastle as in terms of seat sales/merchandise we can out muscle a fair few clubs like :) Shame ManCity have been able to get away with these few years of madness though :( they’ll be cemented into the top by the time these regulations come in like.

  119. off topic here lads

    but i just read this somewhere and thought it was funny like :D haha

    “To be honest, there simply wasn’t a very wide selection of numbers available,” said Ben Arfa. “And the club wouldn’t let me have number 55. Why 55? I just thought it would be funny!”

  120. 197 ~ El Toro ~ says:
    September 18, 2010 at 11:59 pm
    It’s crazy how Enrique barely gets a mention on here when he plays well. That’s not a pop at you lot. It just shows how far he has come along since first joining. People now expect to see him put in 8, 9 or even 10 rated performances. Quality player.
    Agreed. I think the same thing is true of Collocini this year too. There’s no flash to him- but the man has played some very solid football

  121. Agree with comments about Enrique. His combination of pace and strength mean he basically NEVER gets beaten. Still makes the odd mistake but is a top-5 LB in this league no question.

    In the first match at Old Trafford Valencia did absolutely nothing, a week after repeatedly leaving Ashley Cole in his dust. Enrique deserved all the credit, what an asset to be able to shut down an opponent’s attacks on the right wing every week!

  122. Great Result!
    Jose deserves more credit! He basically he dealt with everything that came his way. Definitely one of the top 5 left backs in the EPL. Hope he gets called up to replace Capdevila! Jose needs to teach Jonas a thing or two about crossing…

  123. agree jose class yesterday. plenty been said about HBA..not heard much about tiote but he had a crackin game..

  124. lads to watch games live streaming go to http://www.myp2p.eu it has a number of links for all epl games, also it has the software downlowds which are needed for some. sopcast, veetle, and tvu imo are the ones to go with. was able to watch the entire match with a great stream.

  125. Hello

    i’m french and i will look after ben arfa’s performance in Newcastle

    i see that you’re speaking about ginola, but ben arfa is another player, this guy has the best skills that a french player never had, even Zidane. But he has some fault: he is a star since he is 12, (see this videos when he is fighting abou diaby when he is 13 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCrmuOkF0FE), so he needs a great coach that can be honest and hard to him. If Hughton is this type of manager, newcastle has a great opportunity with him

  126. I’m sure this must have been mentioned,but I had the misfortune to watch Sky’s football first last night.I have never heard such a bias commentery in my life.The Felaini incident when he elbowed Williamson was apparently the yellow card was a bit harsh and the only comment afterwards after they had seen the reply was,”Why is Barton getting involved with his reputation”.When Coleman nearly cut Nolan in two in the penalty area was “a good tackle”, and apparently Bennys goal wasn’t all that good it was down to bad defending.It’s my first season with sky and I am shocked with how bad most of the comments are from pundits etc.Rant over .Finally I think Tiote is one of the best signings in years for Newcastle.

  127. Getting back to the referee, did anyone see the gadget show yesterday?

    The played a game of footy on there but had all the toys like goal-line technology, sensors on the body etc, and there was not one error. Just one bloke sittong at a bunch of TV screens analysing it. Interesting.

  128. Pleasantly surprised with MOTD’s much more appropriate comments on both the penalty, the elbow and the overall Newcastle performance. I’ve recorded the Sky Football First match replay to watch later – maybe I’ll watch it with the sound off judging by the comments above!
    Of course Everton were awful – but let’s not detract from the Toon’s performance. If you look at the squad that Everton put out, it’s a damned decent one so we deserve some credit. Trying not too get too hyped up about HBA (Pancrate goal anyone?) – but it’s hard not to! I don’t expect him to turn it on every game – but I do enjoy seeing him on the ball – he seems to glide past players – and I’m sure he will be no flash in the pan.
    My pessimistic mate’s pre-season prediction that we would beat the Mackems low points total of 12 (!) is looking even more stupid than at the time,

  129. magpie6699 good idea turning the sound off,Iwas sat there like the grumpy old man I am shouting at the telly which nearly took some of the enjoyment away from watching a superb Newcastle performance.

  130. no-one mentioned ref had to red-card seamus coleman if he gave penalty… possibly influenced his decision..

  131. he will never stay on the wing ben arfa..free role with tiote pace in midfield to keep him safe if he gets it wrong sometimes when he loses the ball ..which he will..2 me he is just a faster version of messi..and people will laugh..but said all along this kid could be the 1 of the best players in the world..if he can get goals on a reguarly basis then u are looking at some1 on a different planet..2 me 6 mil for the best player in the prem..we looked 10 grades better side with tiote and him in it..god keep them safe..

  132. asim,
    totally agree, yesterday we were in danger of looking like a good team with those two playing. Great additions right where we needed them, hey, CH may know hat he is doing after all ;)

    Ive got a bet on at work that we will get 15 or more points away from home this season, what you reckon?

    only 11 more to go

  133. i know it’s a bit of a long shot but does anyone know anywhere where i can watch the whole 90 minutes of yesterdays game? it would be very much appreciated :-)

  134. first two names on the team sheet for next week pl game …the h-bomb and TNT

    i think perch misses the next game due to his constant fouling so interesting to see who goes in r.b., will it be r.taylor or colo and sol campbell brought in c.b…..hell maradonna fancied guterriez der, ha!

  135. BATTY i know it was a good team show and perch has been getting stick but hes 100% team player and gets stuck in,its a learning curve for him he will come good imo

  136. In reference to Harpers injury , Houghton says he doesn’t know if there is provision in Forster loan agreement to enable him to return to Newcastle because of Harpers injury.Two things surely there is provision, and how come Houghton doesn’t know?

  137. Icedog If thats the case mate, then thats absolute amateurish bollocks. I wonder if the FA will allow us a loan keeper as in the case of Man City who had about 4 hundred keepers on their books at the time Given was injured.

  138. hughton has clearly said that forstor cannot be recalled and that was the risk he took when he sent him on loan but felt it wouldnt be fair to have two great young keepers stay at toon with only one warming the bench

    with krul and solderberg we’ll be fine, no point contemplating what we might do if krul then goes to get injured

  139. MICK G,aye thats the case m8,i dont think the ressie keeper is quite ready yet so a loan might be the way to go

  140. BATTY i think c.h, might just change the team again against stoke finding a place for sol with the way stoke play the game,maybe even putting collo at r/b and putting sol in there

  141. Icedog- good shout with bringing Sol in for stoke ,simply with the way they play ,and put colo at right back with perchy been suspended anyway .Colo has been class upto now ,but does often struggling with aerial threat like stoke .
    Team for stoke
    Krul ,colo ,willo ,sol ,jose ,benny(on right wing) ,barton,tiote ,jonas,nolan ,tarzan .

  142. Where would I get the MOTD highlights? Power went off just 10mins before it came on last night! Didnt come on again until 1am!!

  143. icedog says:
    September 19, 2010 at 11:57 am
    BATTY i think c.h, might just change the team again against stoke finding a place for sol with the way stoke play the game,maybe even putting collo at r/b and putting sol in there
    If there was a negative from yesterday, I thought Williamson got a bit lucky not to be called for some of the holding he was doing in the box. I’m still pleased with him, but Sol should be about ready to get a game. Outside of that, I would leave the squad unchanged for Stoke

  144. Still over the moon with yesterday, especially the performances from the two new boys. Tiote looks fearless in the center, has a serious engine on him, isn’t afraid to get stuck in and can break up play well-something we’ve been desperate for, for a long time. Our very own Essien?

    Anyone watching Manure/Pool btw? Torres looks uninterested, almost like he’s sulking at his dip in form. Made no attempt to even challenge Berba for the first Manure goal. Liverpool just generally look poor.
    Also, Is it just me, or is Glen Johnson one of the most over rated English players you’ve seen in bloody ages?

  145. Ross- I really can’t see L’Pool in he top 6 this year. After Chelsea, Arsenol, and Man U, Man City and Tott will be there with 4-5 teams battling it out after that. Am starting to think we could be one of those 4-5 clubs along with Villa, Everton, etc.

  146. MDS-I’ve said from the start I reckon Chelsea will win the league with Manure coming runners up, Arsenal third, maybe Citeh 4th and Liverpool wherever else you like outside the top four. I dont think they’re anywhere near the team they have been in the past few years. There’s always talk of Gerrard leaving, Torres looks like he can’t be arsed at the moment, Mascherano was a huge loss for them.
    Looking at Johnson, he’s not bad coming forward but I think he can be awful at the back. He’s one of the few options England have at RB though so I feel he’s bigged up alot. I’m not saying he’s awful, just that he’s really not as good as he’s touted to be. A quick look at him compared to the likes of Ashley Cole, they’re worlds apart.

  147. ROSS only thing that spoiled it for me y/day was when benny was going round high fiveing the players jonas just walked past him,in the huff maybe because he got his place.

    l/pool have gone backwards since they let alonso go imo

  148. Penner for Pool after Berba put’s Manure 2-0 with a brilliant goal. Hopefully the bin dippers put this away and the game actually gets interesting.

  149. Ice-Didn’t see that mate, bit of a shame. Was it obvious Jonas ignored him like?
    To be fair, probably was in the huff and for good reason. Benny’s first start and he’s had a game that pundits have described as “world class”, “Stunning” and “marvellous”. Spidey probably sitting there thinking F*cksake when he saw the 25 yarder break the net, lol.

    As for Pool, Masch and Alonso held their mid together, allowed Gerrard to roam. They’re stumped now like. Shame as i like Roy Hodgson.

  150. Losing Mascherano and Alonso have hurt them tremendously, and agree that Torres looks like he doesn’t want to be there.

    Ross- agree on your top 4-5; Chelsea looks by far the best club at the moment and could walk with it if they stay relatively injury free. Man U is second because they’ve never done enough to try and replace Ronaldo.

  151. Ross
    Gotta agree about Johnson mate, I was watching one of the England games…Might have been vs Switz? And the guy was saying “Glen Johnson is England’s only real option at right back.” Its that kind of thing that really makes you worry about England :)

  152. ROSS was it obvious,well you always look for team mates like, more-so when your the goal scorer.
    i think roy hodgson is a gentleman m8

  153. Newkie-That’s the thing mate, he’s the only English RB option, thats why I think he gets alot of praise, he’s canny going forward but gets caught out at the back and would get roasted by top wingers I think.
    Ice-Shame if that’s the case but I still think we could let Benny take the no10 role and stick Jonas out wide. Judging by his dribbling skills yesterday he made strolling into the box look easy, if we play him in the middle and he continues to do that, he will score goals. He looked brilliant, I’m really excited about him.
    As for this Manure/Pool game, the defending for the free kick was hilarious. The wall just parted and in it went. Don’t think VDS did that much wrong, he has to trust his wall to block one side of the goal and they didn’t do that at all. Manure throwing points away again potentially with Chelsea getting Blackpool later on this afternoon. They could be well clear come 5pm the night.

  154. Oh, also, O’Shea shouldn’t be on the field. He was last man and brought Torres down. Much like Fellaini’s offence yesterday. Webb has seen it and yellow carded him. How has he came to that decision? If he’s seen the offence, its a red card. Fellaini was booked for an elbow to the face yesterday, that’s a blatant red. The penalty would have been a red aswell. Madness.

  155. Celtic win 2-1. Nee clean sheet for Forster but they’ve still got another win with him inbetween the sticks.

  156. It seems that the refereeing this year in all matches I’ve watched has been incredibly inconsistent. Maybe it’s time for the gods to think about adding a second on pitch referee.

    By the way, congrats on the new grandbaby Big Dave. Hope all are healthy.

  157. Are we gonna see yet another half dozen for Chelsea? 3-0 up against Blackpool after half an hour and they’re coming forward constantly, at will.
    Also-Congrats Stu on completing the run mate.

  158. Big dave – hardest, longest mile in the world. I thought I was there going down the hill but once I turned left the last mile was a killer!

  159. I know a 63-year-old who ran it for the first time today and he managed 2hrs 30 mins. Fair play for doing it Stu, but it isn’t a time to crow about in that perspective…..