Toon players getting hot under the collar?

Posted on July 22nd, 2009 | 39 Comments |

Visitor's Beye
Visitor's Beye
Undoubtedly, the most exciting thing to happen at our game last night wasn’t the actual football. It was the handbags at half time and at the end of the game.

The first tussle involved Habib Beye who was incensed enough to remonstrate with Huddersfield skipper Peter Clarke following an earlier disagreement. Whether that was something said at a free kick or a challenge either one of them didn’t like, is unclear.

Certainly I didn’t see the flashpoint because I was halfway up the stairs to get my pie (which incidentally were out of stock!). But both players looked fairly agitated and keen to get at each other. Which resulted in a 20-man melee (I love that word) that involved police and stewards and continued down the tunnel. Beye didn’t reappear for the second half but as I suggested in my earlier report of the game, I got the impression that was the original plan regardless.

The second incident involved Coloccini and former Gateshead forward Lee Novak with the striker reportedly suffering a cut to his chin. It came as a surprise to me just how close these two actually got and that there was physical damage as it was dispersed relatively quickly and there didn’t seem to be much in it. The exact cause of that incident is also unclear. What is clear though is that this was a relatively bad-tempered affair considering the nature of the game.

There were several hefty challenges early on, particularly on Joey Barton which went unchecked and on at least three separate occasions it appeared that Carroll, Duff and Nolan were man-handled off the ball. Quite why it was such a full-blooded affair isn’t clear, although Clarkie will have had them wound-up for this one. It’s also safe to say that we’re still a big target and teams will want to have a go at us.

With that in mind, though commitment and steel is essential, I’m not sure looking to belt the living daylights out of the opposition is the most constructive way forward. Both managers have come out and said the incidents show how much the players care. I’m not sure I agree with that. I definitely like the implication that the players are sticking together but I think it says more about their current state of mind rather than a symbol of their ‘unity’. The talking should be done with their feet and at the minute they’re remaining diplomatically mute on that front, it would seem, the Darlington result flattering to deceive.

It seems like the frustration in the stands over the current situation is being mirrored on the pitch. I’ve so far been given the impression that in terms of the football, half of our squad looks fairly disinterested. And yet all the uncertainty seems to have shortened some fuses. Beye has been involved in a couple of incidents in his time at St James’ but on the whole is reasonably well disciplined. That all went out of the window last night. Of course, these things happen and it might just be pure coincidence.

We expect them to be consummate professionals but, whether it’s an indication of the calibre and character of players we have I don’t know, there’s the very real likelihood that this whole sorry mess is getting to them and that these players are taking their eyes of the ball at a crucial time. Without the right preparation and a good start, next season could turn out to be a long hard slog and it could get quite scary. Though the likelihood of dropping down another tier is still a way off to my mind and not something I care to contemplate. The facts are, that we are effectively rudderless and without direction and the body language of the players tells me most of them are ready to jump at the first chance of another club. With or without the platitudes of Steven Taylor ringing in our ears.

I’m also aware that we have been in the media for all the wrong reasons over the last few years and this latest issue is just another example of our implosion. With a transfer embargo on our players until a sale is progressed and a current impasse on the sale, it seems we’re stuck with these players. Players who look disillusioned, disenchanted and irritated. A unhealthy state of mind and seemingly lacking desire and commitment when it comes to the actual football. Hughton has stated, should it be necessary, he’d have no qualms about entering the new season with this current squad. Fair enough Chris, that’s your prerogative.

Having seen two games this season, personally, it’s a pretty scary thought when you consider there’s a healthy portion of the transfer window to go and Mr Ashley will undoubtedly be keen to shed some of the financial heavweights if there are no buyers and he becomes stuck once again with this unwanted gig.

P.S. My alternative theory is that the players are just angry at having to wear such a bloody clip of a football strip. It’s not a ‘grower’ by any means.

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39 Responses

  1. AH-HAAAAAAAAAAAAA,

    Finally, a Newsnow link! Well done lads and lassies, should get a LOT more traffic now! Sorry no comment on the story, but I’ll be back now it’s listed on the mecca of all news portals!!

  2. star dust i found youre response to one of lee ryders articles and just thought i would say this

    Why do you choose to omit the cost of building a 52k stadium from your article? It would take around 200m in todays market.

    As with the whole of this very poor piece you choose to make grandiose statements with no thought or evidence – very shoddy journalism – may I ask Lee did you learn your trade from Mr Oliver?

    Ironically one of the only writers to have any credibility amongst the masses is George Caulkin of the Times. You have an opportunity to make the point of reference for fans yet you shoot and miss at the moment Lee – just like Mr Oliver. Remember not all fans have the inability to see the wood for the trees, write for those and your credibility will rise not cont plummet.

    the notts county owners imo are probably the same as portsmouths they wanna take a small club with not a brilliant sized fanbase or a big stadium and take them as far as possible sort of like when i became darlo on fifa 09 and made them win the champs league

  3. Congrats on getting into NewsNow, it’s an achievement, I’m still waiting to accepted.
    Did you apply long ago?

  4. beyethegreat says:
    July 22, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    “Why do you choose to omit the cost of building a 52k stadium from your article? It would take around 200m in todays market.”

    Alot of local contractors ended up out of pocket on that one, Beye, thanks to the financial shennanigans of the Hall / Shepherd “Axis of Evil”.

  5. My only concern about newsnow link is that by all accounts, we might have more people scrutinising the articles and being critical.

    I hope my pride is up for some serious denting :D

  6. Doocey says:
    July 22, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    “Congrats on getting into NewsNow, it’s an achievement, I’m still waiting to accepted.
    Did you apply long ago?”

    Doocey, they said it could take up to a month, and it did take around a month.

  7. Enjoyed the article BBM. May as well throw in my tuppence worth …

    “Though the likelihood of dropping down another tier is still a way off to my mind and not something I care to contemplate.”

    Painful though it is, I’m already contemplating it. How likely do I think it is? Well, still just a possibility rather than a probability but that’s what I thought for most of last season until the last 8-12 games.

    I’m getting quite concerned now. It seems Hughton’s going to be in charge for at least the start of the season. Well if he’s in charge for just 3 weeks that’s the transfer window gone and potential buyers will cool off rapidly. With the transfer embargo in place that means we’ll be stuck with a $65m/pa wage bill for at least half the season and I’ve no idea how Ashley plans to afford that.

    I’d like to think Ashley has backup plans for if he doesn’t get a buyer but I’m beginning to wonder if that’s the case, and if he does indeed have backup plans, will he have time to put them in place before the transfer window closes?

    I wonder what Ashley’s prepared to risk to try and get his £100m?

  8. Fair enough.
    Did you have to do something with tags or something? I’ve everything else pretty much done (I think)
    I applied about a week ago, so I’m not expecting a reply for another while.

  9. Dunno about anyone else, but I long for the day when Newcastle United are exclusively on the back pages of newspapers for their footballing exploits alone.

    We need look no further than what Moyes is doing at Everton as a model exercise as to how a club can succeed in the top-flight sans big money signings and an accompanying media-led circus.

  10. Oh, and good article yet again, BowburnMag – keep up the good work, mate.

  11. bowburnmag says:
    July 22, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    “My only concern about newsnow link is that by all accounts, we might have more people scrutinising the articles and being critical.

    I hope my pride is up for some serious denting”

    If people are incisively critical of Lee Ryder on his ‘blog, he just deletes their comments, then bans ’em!

    I was proudly banned from that idiot’s ‘blog a while ago! :-)

  12. Doocey says:
    July 22, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    “Fair enough.
    Did you have to do something with tags or something? I’ve everything else pretty much done (I think)
    I applied about a week ago, so I’m not expecting a reply for another while.”

    Doocey, I don’t know their exact criteria for selecting sites. I just have a fair idea of what directories, news aggregators etc look for from my previous web design experience. Tags are good for Search Engines, but I don’t think it would be a factor there.

    You have a decent ‘blog. If you keep plugging away and learning more about web design, I am sure that you will get there eventually. BTW, you never got back to me about swapping links. ;-)

  13. Doocey, I don’t know their exact criteria for selecting sites

    its a good point how do people selects sites i started going on eds about 2 year ago coz thatwas the only 1 now its an internet phenomenon lol but worky know matter how many people use youre site it seriousely is a good one i have said a lot that imo alot of the articles are ofthe highest possible journalistic standard and the articles are better written more informative and truthful than any of the rags put out on the internet or in the papers seriousely i think al ot ofpeople who write articles on this site could be journalists and 1s of the highest standard

  14. workyticket says:
    July 22, 2009 at 5:13 pm

    Doocey says:
    July 22, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    “Fair enough.
    Did you have to do something with tags or something? I’ve everything else pretty much done (I think)
    I applied about a week ago, so I’m not expecting a reply for another while.”

    Doocey, I don’t know their exact criteria for selecting sites. I just have a fair idea of what directories, news aggregators etc look for from my previous web design experience. Tags are good for Search Engines, but I don’t think it would be a factor there.

    You have a decent ‘blog. If you keep plugging away and learning more about web design, I am sure that you will get there eventually. BTW, you never got back to me about swapping links.
    —-

    It’s just that in the NewsNow conditions it says to do article tags before the post and after the post, I don’t really know what that means but I don’t it’s too important.
    I’m only young yet and have learned a lot.
    Hopefully, if I get in NewsNow things will pick up.

    I would swap links., but is there a suitable place for me to place you link on my site?

    I am thinking about changing my theme too…

  15. News aggregators tend to select sites based on two things: content and popularity.

    If you have either or both of those things then, eventually, they’ll pick you up.

    Too much is made of tags and other SEO-type attributes. I mean there’s no harm in getting them right but they’re secondary to good content and high popularity.

  16. Hugh de Payen says:
    July 22, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    News aggregators tend to select sites based on two things: content and popularity.

    If you have either or both of those things then, eventually, they’ll pick you up.

    Too much is made of tags and other SEO-type attributes. I mean there’s no harm in getting them right but they’re secondary to good content and high popularity

    ——
    Agreed, but to get popular you must build a base, and yo build a base…
    It’s a vicious circle :L

  17. Doocey says:
    July 22, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    “article tags before the post and after the post”

    Doocey, do you mean the “shortcode”? Where they advise you to insert the tags “Article Start” at the beginning of a piece, and “Article End” at the end (obviously)? I thought you meant the keyword tags you choose in the WordPress editing window.

    I was scatching my head for a few seconds there!

    As for the links, you’ll have a “blogroll” in WP, or whatever you have changed the name to (if you have). You can edit your links in the WP admin section.

  18. This ‘blog is turning into “SEO Forum”.

    Beye, that article was quite funny. I’ll have to check out “News Arse” more often!

  19. yeah worky

    though very inacurate my opinon is that citeh are the countrys best fans not us

  20. Dunno about that Beye, I happen to think they’re massively overrated as a loyal fanbase that City lot; people tend to forget their sub 20,000 average attendances in the late 80s and the fact they used to average under 15,000 in the 60’s.

  21. shiver

    but what about us getting around 17,000 in the 80s turning on managers and still being called best in the country plus othe atmosphere at st james’ if im ohnest is average if not citeh then leeds possibly liverpool but they have never realy been tested stoke if there fans dont get second season syndrome like the mackems and reading could possibly be crowned best fans in the country

  22. We’ve only averaged under 20,000 three times since the 1st World War – 1981,1982 & 1991. Man City have had fewer seasons outside the top flight yet an inferior aggregate average attendance – the facts don’t lie, mate. Liverpool can never be considered as their loyalty has never been tested, in fact they used to get sub 10,000 crowds for league cup games even in their 80s pomp. As for Leeds, check out their attendances in the 80s – laughable.

    Not saying we’re the best either, mind.

  23. fair enough

    so are we agreeing on stoke ……………as long as they deliver next year ?

    what about portsmouth

  24. beyethegreat says:
    July 22, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    “what about portsmouth”

    I’ve never seen a more bitter emnity than the one the Portsmouth fans have for Southampton. It makes Newcastle – S……..d relations look positively cordial by comparison.

  25. realy ??????????

    why ????????????

    toon v mackems is pretty intense though the likes of man u-liverpool celtic-rangers is just out of this world where all sets of supporters tend to go over the line of rivalry

  26. Stoke? Burberry clad goons who attacked women and children after our league cup game against them in 1995 – not for me.

  27. shiver

    that is pretty cowardly but what about us throwing a petrol bomb at west ham fans

    though shiver they arent real fans they are hooligans

  28. beyethegreat says:
    July 22, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    “realy ??????????

    why ????????????”

    Beye, the Portsmouth lot are much like our beloved ’52 times’. They hold grudges which go back for centuries.

    One reason is that Southampton used to own the docks at Portsmouth until the 1830s, or something like that, and they were forever squabbling over it.

    Only joking, 52! :-)

  29. hmm i didnt know it was that serious but our derby has to be up there with some of the most intense in the country