Video highlights of Newcastle United’s 0-3 away horror show against Derby County at Pride Park, including goals from Derby’s Rob Hulse, Kris Commons (a penalty) and Shaun Barker.
Full NUFC Blog match report from Pride Park by Geordie Deb.
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Sorry dont want to watch !
I was there yesterday and just wanted to ask peoples opinions on Kevin Nolan. I admire his work rate and he has scored crucial goals but he was outrun by Robbie Savage last night. I think he gets overrun by any midfield capable of keeping the ball because he can’t get around the pitch quick enough. Would you take £3m for him if you were offered it?
Interesting site this based upon the last 8 games we would still be 6th even though we’ve not actually being playing very well.
shocking penalty give away by Jonas…
talking wages epl,o.martins in court a few weeks ago had to declare his wages 65000awk,guthrie in court today had to declare wages before setting fine,guess what 6000awk,no wonder harper saying dressing room is better now!
If Oba had scored 20+ p/a he woulda been worth it, but as he didn’t, he wasn’t.
Ice,
that kinda disparity is always gonna cause problems, isn’t it?
makes me think clint,what wages simpson/williamson ect agree to the mind boggles
Yes mate,
hey so long as we’re getting a more even playing field, more reasonable wages & players feeling like it’s fair.
Plus stop paying divvy money to divvies, we’ll send a message that ‘don’t come to Newcastle just for big bucks’.
I think we have a wage cap of £15K this season, which is sensible considering the decrease in revenue when you go down a league.
I don’t want to see this given up next season though, i’d like to see maybe £40K at most for some real top signings, but only for real quality that will keep us up.
Speaking of which Alan Sugar has just given an interview to Sky Sports News about Pompey potentially going bust and clubs living within their means, and even as a through and through Spurs fan had to admit admiration for the way Arsenal run their club in a proper business fashion.
Guthrie 6k a week? Really?
Don’t get me wrong, 6k a week is a lot of money if I was to be earning it, but for a footballer it’s pretty cack to be honest.
CLiNT – Your right, that wage gap is always going to cause problems! If one of my colleagues was on 10x more than me for performing the same/arguably worse than me, I’m sure I’d have something to say about it!
Aye andy,
we have to attract players that wanna be part of this team/club, not just line their pockets.
FFS paid anything to ‘trophy’ signings here.
That has gotta end.
We must implement a new way of transfers, cos buying/selling is killing football.
toonsy,
& right so mate.
I understand ‘up & comers’ getting less, but there has to be parity at some stage.
Otherwise there’s no incentive.
somewhere they have to find happy medium, might have to find a football man to get it right
Young Guthrie earns in 5 months what Colo earns in a week ?
I’m not sure for 40k a week that we’d be able to sign much.
If they were worth having then we would get pipped by other teams due to wages. Still, if other clubs want to spend themselves into oblivion then let them.
My wife knows sweet f a about football but said last season whilst i was screaming at the telly, they should be paid on performance.
I know it will never happen but i think she hit the nail on the head, i know the bonus system exists but is a small part of the contact but why not pay a basic to all the players and then pay generous win bonuses, i bet we would then see a different attitude to chasing or closing the game.
Dave – Nah, 3 months instead of 5 mate :lol:
BBB – A bit like estate agents? Could work in an ideal world, football isn’t in an ideal world at the minute though.
Toonsy sorry mate im just going by another article that states > The midfielder was forced to reveal in court this week that he earned £4,000 a week.
And that means it takes him FIVE MONTHS to earn what Argentine defender Coloccini banks in a week.
Toonsy, something has to change, 3 clubs were due to be wound up in the high court toady, the current level of debts are not sustainable unless you are Chelsea or Man City. The bubble has burst, i can see massive changes around the corner and incentive based contracts are in most other forms of employment so why not football?
bigbadbob have to agree something NEEDS to change it is killing the game
BBB – I’ve got no problem with incentivising contracts, but look at the clubs that have been in the courts today and then compare them to us.
Realistically, and given time, if we were on a sound footing then not many teams could compete with us financially. We have the infrastructure, the fanbase, a 52,000 seater stadium, the name…… all things that the teams in question don’t. We could go further before being strectched financially I mean.
I often wondered how much Strolla is on after signing his last contract
I think it’s dead easy. It doesn’t matter who owns you, you can only spend what the club earns or has to show as profit. No profit no buying… !
Salary caps, get shot of agents, end buying/selling people, er, i mean players. Pay scale based on experience, then drops after a certain ‘prime’ age.
What else?
Geordie German – That’s what they do in league 2 to an extent. Salaries can’t be more than 60% of turnover I think.
Rationalize the leagues, there are too many.
college football for leagues 1 & 2.
Is that to bad toonsy? If the owner want’s to spend/earn more then he has to build a bigger stadium. I’m of to watch Osnabruck beat Schalke I hope. See you all at half time.
How about this for players pay? Have a set salary, say £10,000 a week with the pay going up every year that you stay at the club. If you move you drop back down to the basic pay. Could also throw a bonus in there to keep players happy.
When my cousin (same age as my mam) played football in the 60’s and 70’s, he started on £5 a week with an extra £5 if he got in the first team. He was lucky and did most weeks. He then got win bonus, goal bonus, bonus for crowds etc. When his son played, the pay had gone almost to todays levels, but not quite as he finished in 2003. Mind you, when I asked him if he would like to do it all again with todays pay, he said no, was very happy with what he got and just enjoyed the game
CLiNT your right there is to many leagues but I cant see anything changing except more and more teams going bust
There has always been the same amount of leagues, it’s just over time the names have changed.
Big D,
Mate, the powers that be have no belly to change, they’re stuck in the past & shit scared of change.
It’s pathetic really, cos everyone & his football hating mrs knows it’s due.
People will say: the little clubs deserve a chance of the big time, but even if they get there, they can’t sustain it.
Remember wimbledon fc getting 5-10k crowds in the prem?
Not big enough. If a little club does make it they may get decent crowds for the 1st year or while the honeymoon lasts, but then it’s back down the leagues. Look at Bradford, Luton, etc, etc.
TOONSY your right names have changed,when we had the old div4 the teams inthat lge voted who went out of lge thats how we lost poor gatehead finished bottom for the first time the southern teams voted them out didnt like the travel,wonder how voting would go now
Simple fact of the matter is that this is all determined by the owners. The owners themselves could get together and impose a wage cap, but they won’t, because they know they won’t be able to attract the best players who will know they can go elsewhere and get more cash.
It seems to me that no one body has the balls or the authority to even try to impose such legislation. UEFA/FIFA and individual FA’s need money rolling into football so that they can continue to build it up. Clubs need money for bigger stadiums, bigger name players, better training facilities and so on. It’s a self-generating problem.
Even if UEFA tried to get it imposed legally, it would only be a matter or time before it was challenged under law. Just like Bosman, or like Steve Bruce’s thinly vieled attempt to spur players into questioning the transfer window and its restriction on their ability to ply their trade.
Remember Jimmy Hill (before he was a presenter), blame him!
There have always been too many leagues.
It’s just that back when football was cheap as chips people went for a bit craic. Now it’s all money the goal posts have moved & it’s unsustainable, simple.
When there are too many of the same biz on the high st. some eventually go bust.
It’s all gonna kick off soon.
starkadder,
i take it you’re only talking about certain clubs, with a decent crowd/turnover?
The rest can’t compete.
Remember Jimmy Hill (before he was a presenter), blame him!
with a lot of help of a toon player g,eastham
Jimmy Hill did a good thing back then, as players really were almost slaves. It’s just gone way too far the other way & agents have gotten their rancid claws in now too.
Clint @ 37,
No, not at all. All clubs are businesses, so they all want big income and high turn over. So are all Football Associations.
If, as a club, you are in a position where you cannot get a decent crowd, perhaps because bigger clubs surround you (like Gateshead), or because your town is just not big enough to provide you with 35000+ attendance, you still want as many supporters to attend as possible.
Jimmy Hill did do the right thing, at the time. But times have definately changed.
Yea starkadder,
i’m talking about the clubs ability to afford to build bigger stadia, or buy better players or attract more people. Therefore it doesn’t happen for them.
CLINT,dont get me going on agents,dam blood suckers
ice,
scum of the earth mate.
Smaller clubs can generate the turn over though. If they are lucky enough to find young talent, nurture them, sell them on for profit, and continue to do so. If they have a dedicated following. And if they don’t over strech themselves. It’s all about good financial managment. Don’t get me wrong. They may never be able to afford Michael Owen or David Beckham, but they might just carry on when other ‘bigger’ clubs disappear.
There is a very real possibility that four of the biggest clubs in this country could go bust or be forced to massively restructure.
Man U. and Liverpool have huge debts, Chelsea and Man City are entirely dependent on the good will of their mega-rich owners. The same financial situation which wiped millions of Mike Ashleys value could easily happen again and take down a club of their size.
Addmittedly, that would be an extreme situation, and it would not happen overnight, but it’s a possibility.
Starkadder,
Not saying little clubs shouldn’t exist, just question the need for so many if they aren’t financially viable.
They should just be amateur i guess. But if lower leagues were college teams the youth would come through anyway & have a trade/profession to fall back on if it all went tits up.
The question then is what is financially viable?
Smaller clubs need a smaller turnover. If, with their limited means, they manage to win enough games to get themselves promoted from the lowest of leagues all the way to the top of premiership (or whatever the top league is in their country), then they have obviously exhibited an ability to manage their club and their finances correctly.
It is also likely that as they progress through the leagues, their turnover will increase, allowing them to buy better players, develop better facilities and so on.
As long as they manage themselves correctly, there should be no reason for concern.
Simply because a club may have a smaller income or stadium right now does not mean that they will always be that way. Similarly, it does not follow that a huge team will always be huge.
icedog says:
February 10, 2010 at 8:13 pm
“Remember Jimmy Hill (before he was a presenter), blame him!”
You can also blame Jimmy Hill for 3 points for a win, all seater stadiums (with a little help from Heysel), shirt sponsorship, the modern football pundit and a whole host of other things. He’s quite possibly the most influential man ever in football, apart from the people who invented it.
CLiNT FLiCK says:
February 10, 2010 at 8:21 pm
“i’m talking about the clubs ability to afford to build bigger stadia,”
That is what has changed, Clint. The size of a club’s following and it’s stadium to hold them isn’t as relevant as it used to be. The financial changes in football are not because of bigger teams with more fans coming through the turnstiles, it’s because of TV income. To go back to a point about Wimbledon never making it to the Premier League today, it isn’t less likely, it is far more likely, because the gate they get is far less important than it used to be. What is important is the whether the TV cameras are there.
The tv is gonna be there to see the ‘other’ club though, isn’t it.
Who actually wants to see or pay to see (on tv) the likes of bolton, hull, wimbledon et al?
Not having a go at those clubs, they’ve all done amazing things to get there. Just questioning whether anyone sees it as good tv. The tv money will go to where the audience is more & more, until ‘the others’ get left behind that way.
The mass media are suckers for ‘fashion’ after all.
CLiNT – I agree to a point. I feel slightly annoyed that a proprtion of my Sky subscription goes to other clubs. I’d prefer the ability to be able to buy like a season ticket for my club, where I get to watch all Newcastle games on TV. Fair enough, a proprtion of it would still go to other clubs, but I’d get much better value for money, as would fans of other clubs. It wouldn’t stop me going to games when I can either.
Couldn’t agree more toonsy.
Just like you should pay for just the tv you watch & f*** off all the rest.
Why the hell not?
The customer is always right, apparently.
CLiNT FLiCK says:
February 10, 2010 at 10:10 pm
“Who actually wants to see or pay to see (on tv) the likes of bolton, hull, wimbledon et al?”
Clint, in the 1990s, would you have written “Who actually wants to see or pay to see (on tv) the likes of Chelsea, Man City et al”? They used to get the same or lower attendance figures than Bolton and Hull do nowadays, even though they played in the top division.
The key difference is WORLDWIDE TV, which, in turn, has brought in billionaire owners.
Worky,
like toonsy just said, i wanna see NUFC, period.
I’d get to see the other teams when they played us x2.
QED.
The difference between chelsea & man c is that they have a much bigger fan base, granted they have glory hunters, but still, there are more than bolton etc will ever have.
Would bolton etc get 50k if their stadium could cope?
Not sure they would.
Would be interesting to see the viewing figures for say:
bolton v hull, as opposed to say: arsenal v manc.
You know what i’m getting at, ultimately the former will get on tv less cos the audience will be lower & tv co.s will always follow the big figures.
CLiNT FLiCK says:
February 10, 2010 at 11:00 pm
“The difference between chelsea & man c is that they have a much bigger fan base”
Clint,
When the likes of Chelsea and Man City were like Bolton and Hull, they had the same or lower attendances. So how do you explain that if, as you write, they have a “much bigger fanbase”?
Historically.
& when they are doing well they can demand thousands more than the likes of hull ever will, can’t they?
Worky,
i mean fan-base to draw from.
As i say loads are glory hunters but anyway, you know what i mean, yea?
Clint, you seem to have missed out the reality of Premiership football being a world tv game now, that’s the whole difference. It’s not just about a club’s home fanbase, it’s also about fans all over the world. If some slave owner from Abu Dhabi bought Hull and stuck Kaka, Ronaldo and Messi on the pitch, they would have a worldwide following and be a huge draw for TV.
Not saying that can’t happen, just that it’s highly improbable isn’t it?
Hey wilder shit has happened, ok maybe not. :)
going back to wages. Guthrie might be on 6k per week but thats all hes worth. If you buy cheap players on cheap wages you stay in the chumpionship.
The new buys, williamson, fitz hall, best are gonna keep us in this league.
They simply are not good enough.
Cant see how yous cant see it.
The sooner taylor and colo and enrique who are on big wages , get back the better !
BSNo9 – These same players that smashed Cardiff 5-1, right?
Bobby, think you are being a bit harsh on the new players after one bad result, we need to get behind the players for the rest of the season and i have cheered on a lot worse, Frank Pingle, Megson, Andreas Anderson all spring to mind but there are numerous others.
yes toonsy, cardiff never performed that night. . .i am not impressed by any of the new buys. Routledge adds width and occasionally gets a cross in but his reputation goes before him, goes missing away from home and couldn t cut it in the premier.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
These players will blow our promotion hopes!
@ bbb
just cos you have cheered on worse doesnt hide the truth.
I have been there as well and that is how i form my opinions.
Ive seen crap players and i can see these new signings are crap.
Its the truth, deal with it.
icedog says:
February 10, 2010 at 8:13 pm
“Remember Jimmy Hill (before he was a presenter), blame him!”
WORKY,that was not my post m8,i just added the g eastham quote,think you will find it was starkadder sorry
Bobby Shinton,
I guess we were better with Michael Owen?
Idiot.
routledge didnt go missing at sjp with QPR a few weeks ago nearly cost us the game or was it a one off?
wickywoowoo says:
February 11, 2010 at 11:54 am
Bobby Shinton,
I guess we were better with Michael Owen?
Idiot.
<<<<< of course we were a fit owen is far better than any 1 who plays for us idiot
bobby shitsue is right aboot the players we have brought
we have aboot half a dozen decent players the rest are plop as sjt would say
the sooner the fat c@nt goes the better the ugly obese person
BATTY do you mean all 6 players,ime happy to give williamson a chance we did need cover there with no boom,and he has to be better than nothing at that price?
dog thats all he will be when we get our players fit cover we sold our best 2 defenders last season
there are championship players out of all the players we went after the only 2 that could prove too be prem players we didnt get
Bobby Shinton number 9 says:
February 11, 2010 at 8:14 am
“yes toonsy, cardiff never performed that night. . .i am not impressed by any of the new buys. Routledge adds width and occasionally gets a cross in but his reputation goes before him, goes missing away from home and couldn t cut it in the premier.”
Routledge wasn’t that bad as a Premiership player, and he certainly looked the part when he played against us with Fulham once. He made both goals in a 2-1 victory for them.
well batty i tend to agree,but we didnt sell them,they jumped bloody ship
worky 1 game
icedog says:
February 11, 2010 at 1:03 pm
well batty i tend to agree,but we didnt sell them,they jumped bloody ship
<<<< dog ashley sold them we had them under contract so didnt have too sell them ie beckford
batty says:
February 11, 2010 at 1:05 pm
“worky 1 game”
batty, I’ve seen Routledge play more than one game in the Premiership.
ashley would sell his mother if there was a quid in it
icedog says:
February 11, 2010 at 1:03 pm
“well batty i tend to agree,but we didnt sell them,they jumped bloody ship”
We sold them, icedog. It was completely unfeasible to keep them all in the Championship, but we have kept some.
workyticket says:
February 11, 2010 at 1:15 pm
icedog says:
February 11, 2010 at 1:03 pm
“well batty i tend to agree,but we didnt sell them,they jumped bloody ship”
We sold them, icedog. It was completely unfeasible to keep them all in the Championship, but we have kept some.
<<<< unfeasible why how much were they on worky ? summit like 5 and 30 grand
WORKYWe sold them, icedog. It was completely unfeasible to keep them all in the Championship, but we have kept some.
i agree with that had we kept we might be doing a pompy,but does not take away the fact ashley stuffed it up in not doing players contracts right in first place.ps quote67
ide say simpsons and williamsons combined wages are as much if not more worky.
guthrie on 6000awk,simpson/williamson etc signed after him so its anybody guess
icedog says:
February 11, 2010 at 1:26 pm
“i agree with that had we kept we might be doing a pompy,but does not take away the fact ashley stuffed it up in not doing players contracts right in first place.ps quote67”
Icedog, it was Shepherd and Allardyce who made those disastrous signings on crazy money, though technically, some of them may not have been Newcastle players until Ashley had gained control of the club.
batty says:
February 11, 2010 at 1:27 pm
“ide say simpsons and williamsons combined wages are as much if not more worky.”
batty, are you being serious, or are you just pulling my chain again? :-)
It’s easy to give Ashley a perpetual kicking rather than given him some credit for things he has got right.
I would doubt (despite some of the crazy conspiracy theories abounding on this and other sites.) that he bought the club to run it into the ground.
There are several theories as to why he did buy it but if we were to apply occams razor, then it is likely that he wanted to have a successful high profile club to add to a “Sports” empire and have a bit of fun in the process.
What he apparently failed to do what delve a little deeper into the clubs finances and did not see the iceberg lurking under the water.
Since that epiphany and relegation, he is imo trying to balance the books a and make the club more viable.
It would seem to be obvious to me that making the club financially viable will make it an asset to his business empire and if he does eventually sell a good product for potential buyers.
I do not know him personally but he is a family man with I would imagine feelings and pride, so whether he cares for the fans or not (and he does attend games so that what suggest he is not totally indiferent to them), I would think he wants to succeed in this aspect of his business.
Players come and go and we do not have many high profile ones but with the odd exception are we really bothered at the loss of them.
I for one like the look of our present squad and think it would hold its own in the EPL. Should the unthikable happen (a Voldemort moment)and we do not get promoted this season, then I do feel that all of the exceptional young players we have we will be good enough to walk this league next time round.
All in all I feel we should stop (most of) the negative stuff, bend our minds to positive thinking and thoughts.
All together now:-
Ommmmh, European cup within next five years Ommmmmmmh.
thankyou batts! These idiots are clueless!
We are buying absolute dross and cos they are on cheap wages everyone seems to think thats the way forward.
Its about balance.
Milner was on 35k. . . That is not breaking the bank and is now one of the best midfielders in the premier.
Pay 6k then you get what you deserve!
Milner also handed in a transfer request because he wasn’t getting enough money Bobby.
very good point toonsy. Granted Villa had been playing well lately and Milner could probably smell the stink coming if he stayed at SJP
My next dissertation will be on n infinite number of Newcastle United Football teams in an infinite number of Universes, will any of them ever be successful?
I hope to get it published in the “Idiots Guide to Blogging”
Might be at home there!!
@90 Hi Freddie how is the scrap business these days? give my love to Bruce and Kenny…. I’d much rather have dross on 6k a week than dross on 100k a week with a 5 year contract that nobody else would touch with a barge pole…
Isn’t it that type of player that got it into this mess?
Big Willy says:
February 11, 2010 at 3:05 pm
“There are several theories as to why he did buy it but if we were to apply occams razor, then it is likely that he wanted to have a successful high profile club to add to a “Sports” empire and have a bit of fun in the process.
What he apparently failed to do what delve a little deeper into the clubs finances and did not see the iceberg lurking under the water.”
Big Willy,
Mike Ashley on buying the club (from Aug 2007)
“It was the quickest I’ve ever done a deal of that size – we’re talking only a few days. I was told there was an opportunity to acquire Sir John Hall’s stake in Newcastle United, that he may be a seller but only if somebody acted without any delay because he didn’t want to cause any form of disruption for the club.
“The last thing Sir John wanted was a long drawn-out affair because he feared that wouldn’t be good for Newcastle United.
“The deal was put to me on a Saturday. By the Monday, in advance of speaking to Sir John, I’d deposited the equivalent of money we hoped he would accept for his shares at the lawyers and on the Tuesday the deal was effectively done.
“By Wednesday (May 23, 2007) the announcement was public and that was the first anyone, including the media, knew about it. Once I was told about it, it was done very quickly. Sir John was ready to act if I was and it was a very straightforward process.
He adds: “Maybe I could have bought a smaller club, but it just wouldn’t have been the same challenge. It’s like settling for the high jump when really you want to do the pole vault – you want more excitement so you go higher.
“I was being offered the chance to own one of the jewels, one of the diamonds of the Premier League. There was no hesitation, why would there be?”
“Financially, the club was in a difficult position because I really do think that it had over-extended itself.
“We first heard about the potential sale on a Saturday and had done the deal by the Wednesday, so if you are asking if we did due diligence before buying then the answer has to be no.
“But would I change anything about that process? No. Do I regret anything? Absolutely not. What I will add is that one of the most unfortunate things about Newcastle United finances at the time was the amount of money still owed on players signed in comparison to the amount of income that was due off players who had gone.
“There is still £27m net to pay on transfers that were done before I came. So probably in the latter years before we came in could you argue that the club was beginning to lose its way. It has also already taken upfront payments from commercial deals and sponsorships which didn’t help us at all.
“It seemed as though the club was in a very downward spiral, one it would have found very hard to come out of.
“Apart from the purchase of the club and the associated costs that come with that, I’ve put in a further £100m to reduce debts and expect no interest is paid on that. Yet still we have the outstanding debt of the monies still owed on player transfers.”
Having ‘average’ players on £6K a week means that, at least if we need to sell them – we can shift them.
What is the point in banging on about players not being Premier League quality etc and saying they’re only good for this league… When we are only in this league?! We aren’t guarunteed promotion and frankly don’t want nor need to be spending millions on transfers and wages for players that are from a league above ours, we just need grafters that will get us out of this one to start with.
A few clubs in the top flight have built a team on hard working players that can play together – see Fulham, Birmingham, Stoke and Hull (not a great example but at least they stayed up after a season…) for this.
Worky I assume from your reply that you more or less agree with my assessment.
I might be a bit off re. him being aware of the financial side but did see it as a viable aquisition and didn’t think he was buying a pig in a poke.
I believe from your previous comments that you also are prepared to see him as a human being rather than a monster with a hatred of all things Geordie.
The good ship Toon seems to be emerging from the Fog on the Tyne and hopefully will not now end up on the Black Middens.
Big Willy says:
February 11, 2010 at 5:33 pm
“Worky I assume from your reply that you more or less agree with my assessment.”
I thought it was a good post, and I agreed with most of it. I didn’t ‘disagree’ with the rest either. I find it difficult believe that some people seriously think that Mike Ashley put £250 million into Newcastle United just to “run it into the ground”. Did you notice the first couple of paragraphs from thet Mike Ashley interview? especially
“…that he (SJH) may be a seller but only if somebody acted without any delay because he didn’t want to cause any form of disruption for the club.
“The last thing Sir John wanted was a long drawn-out affair because he feared that wouldn’t be good for Newcastle United.”
The sly Old Get!
aye worky SJH stitched ashley up like a rett kipper :Q
reet
Worky from what I can see we were getting ready to crash and burn thats why the ( Geordie nations Granda ) SJH couldnt wait to get out and it wasnt for the good of the Club. I am not a fan of MA but I would thank him for saving our Club as I think there was a real risk that we would have went bust.
“The last thing Sir John wanted was a long drawn-out affair because he feared that wouldn’t be good for Newcastle United.”
No, Sir John, you feared that if the sale became drawn out, potnetial buyers would have had the opportunity and the time to truly study the books. Ashley has cleary made mistakes, but the previous regime deserves a healthy share of it. We were going the Leeds route before Mike stepped in and brought us a bit of financial sanity. These are tough years, but in the long run we will be a better club for it.
Alright lads, just seen the highlights for the first time there. The tackle from Jonas was needless, just a silly mistake and the third goal was purely down to poor defending. Certainly back down to earth with a thud. Hopefully we put in a far better performance on saturday like.
Worky any new blogs on the horizon this video gets worse :lol:
Dave, done the Swansea away guide. Just waiting for it to get finished off. At least you can stop watching the vid then :lol:
to be honest we haven’t been playing that well and the inability of most teams in this league to put away thier chances has helped us a lot – derby got lucky and put thier chances in the net but we have to expect its gonna happen now and again
worky – good post about ashley, he’s made more than enough mistakes but ultimately he’s bailed the club out in a time when many clubs have serious financial problems – relegation had been coming as we’ve been struggling for years and living in the wonder years of kk and sbr wasn’t going to help us
we need to get a good performance on sat in what will be a tough game (aren’t they all)
up the toon
Worky
I haven’t seen that interview before from Mike Ashley, but interesting reading. Hopefully one day some of our fans will wake up to the fact that whatever mistakes he has made he undoubtedly saved the club at that time as we were going down faster than the Titanic with SJH and Fat Freddie at the helm.
I would much rather be in our position now than the position of many other clubs who have a very uncertain financial future.
Deb – I think, not sure, that was the open letter he wrote either after he took over, or the first time he put the club up for sale.
geordie deb says:
February 11, 2010 at 9:09 pm
“Worky
I haven’t seen that interview before from Mike Ashley”
I’ll see if I can find an online version of the whole thing Deb. There was more than that.
To be fair, there aint much communication from Ashley o pick from either :lol:
Worky, I hadn’t actually read the interview,(I presume theres more.) I just tried to apply some common sense to the situation as I saw it.
He certainly don’t come across as Godzilla type monster trying to eat the club. The pies however!!
I see that an EDM (Early Day motion) has been tabled by a Manchester MP for the regulation of football clubs. I don’t know if this is old news, but EDM 807 is a proposal to regulate clubs and calls for fans to have some control over the running of the club.
Potential for NUST to get there foot in the door? Not sure that would be a good thing. Not even sure that it would work if we were able to have a say in the running of the club. There are so many conflicting aspects just on the blog, can you imagine Batty and Stardust debating with Ashley and Chris over who to buy and sell!! ;)
Anything but properly regulate clubs as businesses hey?
They’ll stop at nothing to avoid facing reality.
The football club is an enigma, a law unto it’s self.
The way Brown works, there will probably be a whopping license to be paid for as well. :)
I find it pathetic that a government has to, potentially, regulate something that has got away with all sorts of dodgyness for, well forever.
It should never have been allowed to get this pathetically out of control.
Other types of business woulda ‘gone under’ years ago.
Clubs, effectively, have to be forced to work within there means.
Wonder how long before it’s a reality though.
* their means
i means. :)
CLiNT FLiCK says:
February 11, 2010 at 10:24 pm
“Anything but properly regulate clubs as businesses hey?”
Regulation in most fields of business has been out of fashion since the days of Thatcher and Reagan, and the Hayekian model of economics took over from the Keynesian model. That’s why everything has gone so ‘tits up’ recently.
Damn right mate.
Still paying for the sins of those 2 decrepit despots (& their lackeys).
Uh oh!
I smell a return.
Hayekian and Keynesian were just so funny, I loved their sand dance routine.
highlights…lol