Bedsheets and broomsticks.

Posted on October 31st, 2009 | 58 Comments |

Making the best of it?
Making the best of it?
Trick or treat? Which one does Mike Ashley have in store for Newcastle United over the next season and a half?

Undoubtedly there are many fans who would like to celebrate Halloween by tying Mike Ashley to a stake and setting fire to him, not least because of his crackers plan to sell the naming rights to St James’ Park.

It’s the sort of plan that will probably have people thinking about demonstrations of one kind or another, often involving bedsheets and references to the “Cockney Mafia” and strange words like ‘boycoutt’. Others suggest that the best way to get the message through to Ashley is to ‘hit him in the pocket’, as demonstrated by this letter to the Chronicle:

ASHLEY must go now. Yes, I know he has the money, he cannot be that daft, you say – let’s face it, he got lucky on the stock market and has dragged us down to gutter level and this is the final insult.

Q. How do you get him out?

A. Get the Geordies to stop going to the ground, all 40,000 of them – no income equals no soul, equals the landlord throws in his hand; 40,000 supporters to see Doncaster Rovers – it beggars belief – that is more than Chelsea get most home games!

There is however a problem with that plan. It’s fair enough asking Ashley to ‘get out of this town’ but where is he going to go? He has just tried to sell the club and failed, so his options are limited. He’s not going to give the club away and, whatever his sins, no reasonable person would expect him to do so.

Ashley knows that buying Newcastle was a mistake but he’s stuck with it in the same way we’re stuck with him. Asking him to clear off is pointless unless someone can tempt him with £100m ready to deposit in his bank account immediately, and the last 5 months have proved that isn’t going to happen.

Staying away from games will certainly hit the club in the pocket but it will also risk damaging our promotion prospects. I think we have to look at it pragmatically. I don’t believe Ashley plans to stay at Newcastle forever, I just think he’s realised that his best option for selling the club is to wait a year or two until the world economy improves and try to get Newcastle promoted in the interim, thus making it a more attractive proposition for buyers.

And, lo and behold, we want to see the club promoted too. Our aims coincide with Ashley’s so my suggestion is that we grit our teeth and bear it, get behind the team and help them push hard for promotion.

Let’s say 20,000 stay away from St James’ Park to try and ‘hit Ashley in the pocket’ – what do you think he’ll do? Up sticks and take up yak farming instead? Sack Hughton and appoint Shearer with a £40m transfer budget? Unlikely – what he’ll probably do is tighten the purse strings even more. He’s a gambler and he’ll risk our chances of promotion, whereas I’d rather we didn’t take any unnecessary risks with promotion at all.

To be honest, I think one of the best things that could happen is for the football decision-making to be taken out of Ashley’s hands and passed on to a chairman who knows what he’s doing. Llambias, as managing director, is fairly useless in this respect, which is probably to be expected of a man who needlessly starts his name with two L’s.

Ashley has actually taken the first step in admitting he’s not very good at running a football club – and admitting failures is often difficult for entrepreneurs – but it’s all a bit pointless if he doesn’t do anything about it. Maybe there’s a ‘Crap Football Club Owners Anonymous’ somewhere: “Hello, I’m Mike Ashley and I’m a crap football club owner. I bought Newcastle back in 2007 and I’ve made these mistakes …. er, how long have you got?

At the moment though, as fans, our choices are limited. I don’t think there’s much we can do that will have and practical, positive benefit in terms of relieving Ashley of the club other than supporting the team in their push for promotion, so I plan to back Hughton and the team and keep my bedsheets intact.

If anyone has a workable plan that doesn’t involve damaging our chances at promotion I’m all ears though.

NUFCBlog Author: Hugh de Payen I'm a baby-boomer of the punk rock persuasion, currently exiled in Somerset for crimes committed in a previous life where locals keep trying to poison me with something called 'scrumpy'. Hates sprouts, coat-hangers, Cilla Black, ornaments, Steven Seagull movies and 50 Cent (he's not worth 10). Hugh de Payen has written 634 articles on this blog.

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58 Responses

  1. It’s like ‘Nightmare on Barrack Road’ and one, two Freddie S is coming for you. Digging in the claws.

    To be honest, I’m not sure either way about a protest, it all seems so futile but does that make us as culpable because we’ve done nothing about it? I’m not so sure. He knows we don’t want him here. Hitting him in the pocket probably isn’t likely to help matters, and will likely make matters worse.

    I’m away to walk the dog and have a think.

  2. I couldn’t agree more especially with 2 of your points. Firstly about boycotting the games and reducing income. It won’t get Ashley out any quicker and he will find some other way to pay the bills, such as selling more players in January. I also agree entirely that Derek LLambias is actually the major problem and we need a proper football-savvy Chief Exec. I often wonder whether a different man would have been able to get KK to stay – as MA apparently wanted to happen – whereas all DL wanted to do was “slap his face”. Take that into account, his streak across SJP etc etc and it is clear that the man is an unmitigated disaster. I don’t actually mind an owner, chairman or even a CEO who is not that knowledgeable about football – but a good one makes sure they have the right team to do the job for them and MA clearly hasn’t.

  3. magpie6699, the ‘Blocked by CFC’ is the blog’s spam checker intervening. It can be a bit overzealous sometimes, which seems to have happened in your case, but one of us usually picks up on such errors and approves the comments manually.

  4. Hi

    Ashley should pay Karen Brady to come and run the club for him she did alright at Birmingham

  5. magpie6699 says:
    October 31, 2009 at 11:43 am

    “PS What does (Blocked by CFC) against my name mean??”

    Magpie, I wrote a little thing about on the right hand hand side (see “comments”). If it’s happening alot, it could be that your browser is set to block ‘cookies’.

  6. I’m with you Hugh. The only thing boycotts will achieve is the further ruination of our beloved club. Ashley’s limited liability is fireproof! We’re stuck with him until HE decides to leave…as much as it pains me to type that.
    Besides, if we put too much of a squeeze on his finances he could just fold us into administration and, as major creditor, get his money back that way. We could take decades to recover from that nightmare. At the moment the fatman is like a wounded crocodile hunched over the carcass of a dead buffalo. He’s desperate to eat it…but not til it’s suitably “Hung”….in the meantime any effort to wrest it from him and it’s SNAP, SNAP, SNAP!!!

  7. Well, quite, Excelsior. It’s not that I’m against the concept of demonstrations or any other legal means of registering disapproval, but I think they should have some realistic chance of achieving the objective before they’re undertaken.

    It’s not as if Ashley needs reminding he won’t be on many fans’ Christmas card lists.

  8. my god what a bunch of battered wives!
    Thats the exact response they give when being battered day in day out by their brutal sadistic partners.
    Stavers has always stood toe to toe with the enemy.
    Take the fight to him and demonstrate until his unfit body and mind just thinks this is not worth the effort.
    My god, i hope theres not a war whereupon the country calls upon you men of straw!
    Well, whats the point of fighting the germans? They wont listen or give in.
    I hope your fore fathers who fought in the wars cant hear you little spindless wonders.
    I tell you a little story which is true.
    I despised souness to the point i waited for him after a home defeat. I got into the ground and waited til 7.45pm when he came out the tunnel and he was with dean saunders and other coaches. I met him and pretended i was there to get his autograph. I took his photo on my phone and he smiled like a cheshire cat. At last he had found a friend, or so he thought. Stavers put his arm round him and walked along the gravel path at the edge of the pitch and preceded to tell him exactly what i thought of him.
    I was quickly ushered out the ground.
    Whether by coincidence or otherwise, souness was gone within a week of this.
    Stardust will back this account up.
    So stop your sit back and take it attitude and stand up and protest. It doesnt stop you supporting the team!

  9. “troy stavers says:
    October 31, 2009 at 2:09 pm”

    The battered wives/WW2 analogy is a little strong. Going by that rationale would the “battered wife” in question burn down her house and kill her children in order to foster the tiniest hope that this monster would leave? Would we, in order to stop Hitler, destroy the world to do it? You may think, Troy, that the stance Hugh and I are taking is merely a refuge for cowardice, you’re as entitled to your opinion as anyone else. You’re wrong, of course.

    I’ve registered my EXTREME disapproval of Ashley’s regime all over this blog, and will continue to do so. I’ll condemn, mock, belittle, shout, rage, battle him all day long! The one thing I won’t do, I cannot do, is conscience the destruction of the club on the off chance it forces Ashley to leave. Who, in their right mind, would take on a smokey ruin (post Ashley) that needed a multi-million pound overhaul just to get it back onto a level playing field? Stardust bleats on about fans scaring off potential investors with their behaviour; he’s wrong in that assumption, for now, but the desertion/boycotting scenario might just make him right.

    In case it’s escaped your notice, he’s under economic fire from all sides at the moment. He NEEDS to cash in NUFC asap to fund his many legal battles. A significant part of the art of war is knowing when, where and how to strike.

    Ashley has crossed too many lines to escape judgement now. By all means vilify him, but support the club while doing it.

    He’ll get his…maybe not today, or tomorrow…but he’ll get what’s coming to him, be in no doubt about that. The Serious Fraud Office are heading his way, and when they’re through with him he’ll wish he’d never been born.

    Great Souness story, LOL!! Am I right in thinking that you’re the UFC fighter here? If so it was probably no coincidence he left!

  10. Do any of these questions sound familiar? “If I was you I wouldn’t put up with that.” or how about the king of asinine questions… “Why don’t you just kick him out?”

    By asking those questions or making those statements, friends and family members are re-victimizing us. Not having been abused, they do not know what it’s like to feel totally worthless and ashamed. Their self-esteem has not been stomped into the floor. They have not been punched, kicked, slapped, shoved, humiliated and degraded. They do not understand how the whole process of abuse gradually deteriorates soul and self… piece by piece.
    Only those of us who have been abused can understand why we’ve stayed. We have a million reasons why we can’t stay and million reasons why we can’t leave. We all have our personal reasons.

    Don’t worry Excelsior and Hugh the Pain, Stavers will save you!

    I won’t stand and be abused. No wars were won that way.
    Troy will continue his vocal battle and sing his heart out when the “GET OUT OF OUR CLUB” song starts up in the ground. He will be there to voice his opinions after the game in any organised demonstration. He will sicken Ashley so much he will think to himself, “THIS IS NOT WORTH THE EFFORT”.

    Yes, folks there is a way out of being battered. Face up and fight!!!

  11. @excelsior

    You are your own worst enemy and mine too.

    Not your fault I suppose, you just can’t see it.

    I’ve met too many like you and I don’t get on with them.

    Weak, lilly livered, yellow backs who sit and take it on

    the chin.

    Full of things to say behind the bosses backs but when it

    comes to the crunch and a meeting with the bosses is held

    you sit at the back, roll your eyes and say nowt!

    Truth hurts but must be told.

  12. LOL, Thanks Troy.

    You smash Ashley, and the club, to pieces…if you want…..see how far you get. The kind of nonsense you describe is designed for YOUR benefit not the clubs, to reinforce your own ego.

    I fight the fights that need fighting as and when it’s warranted; if your too wrapped up in your own analogy to see that you’re not doing squat by harming the club; then I don’t see the need to put you straight.

    As for me being a coward….I’ll keep my own council on when, and how, I fight, thanks very much.

  13. It’s strange that at post 9 Troy’s name is written as “troy stavers” yet at post 12 & 1 it’s “Troy Stavers” perhaps 2 people using his log in to cause mischief? ;)

  14. @ tino

    I use my mobile phone and my PC, so i assume it’s cos i’ve got different log in names but i am the same person.
    Bearing in mind, No 9 is written before this post so i’m sure that clarifies it.

  15. @ Excelsior

    You smash me, to pieces…if you want…..see how far you get. The kind of nonsense you describe is designed for YOUR benefit not the clubs, to reinforce your own ego.

    I fight the fights that need fighting as and when it’s warranted; if your too wrapped up in your own analogy to see that you’re not doing squat by harming the club; then I don’t see the need to put you straight.

    As for you being a coward….

    Well you certainly don’t put up a good argument for your cause. Typical response from a battered housewife.

    I will say nothing and hope it will go away.

    Well Dunston Excelsior Club, Troy won’t go away and the good thing is, you can hide behind me when I’ve won the war and come out the woodwork and say you wrote your piece on the blog that Ashley couldn’t give two hoots about.

    You’ve got to love the truth Dunston haven’t you!

  16. “Troy Stavers says:
    October 31, 2009 at 7:24 pm”

    Is there an echo in here? It’s like the bar argument in “Dodgeball”, between Vince Vaughn and Ben Stiller….with you as Stiller, I’m expecting a “Touche” any minute.

    This is a disagreement based on semantics….we both want Ashley out it’s the methodology that’s the contention.

    Fling as much invective about as you like…makes no odds to me. What gave you the idea I wanted to beat you up? That’s a little odd? Still, anyone who refers to themselves in the third person as much as you do needs giving a wide berth to.

    Good luck with your chosen path…If you manage to drive Ashley out I’ll be delighted. Not sure he’ll be as easy to see off as Souness, mind you.

  17. @ Dunston Excelsior club

    You watch too many fiction films for my liking. Corra’s as well Dunston?
    Too many quotes from films explains a great deal to me.
    I prefer to watch factual programmes, wildlife, current
    affairs and the news.

    Again, you hide in your shell, which I despise in a man.
    I can’t blame you because I don’t know your home life? dont know but fear the worst.

    Please, break free from your battery and tell stavers
    all.
    Here’s one for you.

    Fat Freddie Shepherd has lots of faults and too many to go into on a comments box which has a word limitation.

    But this may stir a few feathers Dunston, but its what i believe.

    Success rests on a knife edge.

    Fat fred had a philosophy which has been successful with many businessmen. Spend big and reap the dividends.

    Let us not forget, we were languishing in the old 1st division, on the brink of relegation to the old 2nd, led by the hated Sir Gordon McKeag who had no vision for the club, when big fat horrible fred and pompous john hall decided to oust the bastard out of the club. Sound familiar? Not quite, but some pompous and fat git will turn up one day.

    If you recall Dunston, mass demonstrations took place, and ultimately Malcolm Dix included, realised the potential of our club and proceeded to oust the tight fisted, non ambitious chairman out.

    Now, this process didn’t come about all of a sudden. oh no.

    In the 50s, 60s, and 70s we were one of the best supported clubs in the country.(ring a bell dunston?)

    But the Mckeag regime ( Ashley ) went on too long and we slowly lost faith. The fans dropped off, year by year, and the power to protest lost it’s momentum.

    As low as 7,000 fans turned up one game, i believe versus Wrexham. I could be wrong with the team but not the crowd.

    My point is, fans will not sit and tolerate mediocrity. why should they? when they know we have the capabilities of being in the top three best supported teams in the country. If success, top 2 after Man utd.

    I am old enough to know, that to sit back and take what is thrown at you does not work. Excel, you can’t be very old because you would not have the stance you take.

    I scream from the roof tops that we go ballistic immediately in order to drive him out, protest, abandon games until half time and then enter, abandon buying beer merchandise in the ground!!!!

    Otherwise, I see the future. Sit back and support your team, no progress and crowds continuously dwindle with lack of hope and then you are back to the 80’s.

    How old are you Dunston?

    Say’s it all.

    You come across as a student or inexperienced know all.

    embarrassing.

  18. Excelsior. Contact me on my face book , tony, troy stavers, scott if you want i will privately respond.

    I feel you have an interesting stance on subjects and would appreciate a one to one, to see if you are as bright as your writing.

    I doubt it, cos there are very few, who verbally beat me.

    Always in good humour though.

    Cheers,

    Troy

  19. Everyone, can you not see that Newcastle was one of the best supported clubs in the 70’s but the McKeag regime took over from the Seymours and the same arguments took place. Though they didn’t have the benefit of chat blogs, pubs and clubs were full to the rafters.

    The crowds year on year dwindle, before there is a massive slump.

    Maybe you are too young to remember but fans, who used to pay pennies, not astronomical money now for a day at the match, just got sick.

    Believe me, fight now when the troops are big and not when apathy sets in.

    I’ve seen it. Have you?

  20. You must have been on the Lambrini tonight Stavers ……
    You’re nearly as opinionated as Stardust !

  21. Get a friggin room Stavers? ;)

    I’m starting to come round to a demonstration of sorts. Not sure what I’m aiming for or how I’ll do it but we need to get a message across to him somehow. I feel like I’m watching my club slowly declining and that shouldn’t happen without a fight.

  22. I’m old enough to remember that the same arguments took place about the McKeags that are taking place about Ashley.

    They say history never repeats itself. Well, I can see it before my very eyes.!

    We were one of the best supported clubs in the country in the 50s, 60’s and 70’s without real success after 55. Everyone said the fans would win through and oust the Mckeag regime. It got as bad as below 10k crowds before a turnaround occurred.

    What you young lad can’t see, and i’m only 41yrs, is that it’s identical to that era now. Say 1975.

    There is only one way to get rid of this fat bastard otherthan stop going, like the loyal fans did in the 70’s, is to demonstrate with all your heart.

    Drive him out!! he will come to the stage where he will think it’s not worth holding on and suffering .

    The alternative.? A slow death until another SJH comes along in 20 years, if they do at all. No guarantees in this world.

  23. Not sure which Troy is more impressive. The passionate, articulate and knowledgeable character we see before us. Or the glue sniffer on his proper cush BMX, driving aboot scoring a pure wax belter visa delta deal and hiding from the bizzies. Pure cush n that like wor kid.

    Woo hoo hoo hoo

  24. @Geordielander

    I’ve seen history.

    This is identical to the McKeags.

    No investment and taking the fans for granted.

    It lasts for a few years. Bearing in mind we were one of the best supported clubs in the country at the time. Within a few years, we were relegated and one of the worst supported.

    Can’t beat the truth.

    As ive said, fat fred was on the knife edge of being one of the greatest geordies in history, but he fell on the wrong side of the blade.

    Promotion, Premiership runners up, 3rd, 4th and 5th, champions league knock out stages, and Fa cup finalists twice and charity shields.

    Yes, he brought debt, but as I said in my previous posts, the difference between success and failure is a knife edge.

    If he had the foresight to bring in the right managers, hey we all agreed with daglish, gullit, remember?

    He got it wrong with Souness, Alladyce and Roeder to an extent.

    Bobby Robson, Champions league football!! 5 years ago!!

    I reiterate. This is the equivalent to McKeag and his cronies. No vision!

    Yes, we can go into his misdemeanours and i don’t agree with employing all his family, though he recently defended that by saying it was cheaper than employing other companies. I leave that open to discussion.

    The fact is , if the fans sit back like they did in the 70’s, well we will be watching with 10k fans in a 50k stadium.

    I can hear you now, saying what a load of rubbish.

    I’ve seen it and I know it will happen!!!

    Demonstrate before it’s too late!!

  25. @Browbeatmag

    Hoo man!! Yi little radgey charver!!

    Ye’ll not understand me geordie craic anyways cos yi from Doorham!!

    listen in doylems, troy was doon the woods the day like.!! He foond an old motor bike tyre and believe it or not a cannabis farm!!

    Woo hoo hoo hoo!! Cushty craic like! A says to wor billy the smackheed, “hoo billy, de yi reckon tac grows wild in benwell park like or de yi reckon someone has grown it?”

    De yi kna what he says? ” Troy there’s nee such thing as a cannabis plant yi divvy, it’s foond in the groond man!! a’ve seen it, it’s broon, like hard mud!! Nee way is is from green plants”!

    Woo hoo hoo hoo!! Jokin aside, like, ave never seen resin on these plants like? How’s that?

    Anyways, laters!! oi! oi!

  26. Some very well argued points Stavers.. However..
    There is a credit crunch on.. Ashley can’t sell the club… To demonstrate and boycott games ccould simply starve the club (not just Ashkey) of cash and leave us cascading down the league Leeds style..
    Let’s support and let’s get promoted.. As frustrating as it is it’s the only way forward !

  27. @Geordielander

    is that you Shaun?

    no i haven’t got a ticket but i go to every game and watch every game on tv when its on.

    Why?

  28. PS I note you, as Stardust before you, has dodged the question as to whether you actally attend the games as a season ticket holder !
    I feel it is important that you should not be calling for Boycotts if you don’t actually attend in the first place..

  29. @Mackemlander

    Battered wife syndrome

    Do any of these questions sound familiar? “If I was you I wouldn’t put up with that.” or how about the king of asinine questions… “Why don’t you just kick him out?”

    By asking those questions or making those statements, friends and family members are re-victimizing us. Not having been abused, they do not know what it’s like to feel totally worthless and ashamed. Their self-esteem has not been stomped into the floor. They have not been punched, kicked, slapped, shoved, humiliated and degraded. They do not understand how the whole process of abuse gradually deteriorates soul and self… piece by piece.
    Only those of us who have been abused can understand why we’ve stayed. We have a million reasons why we can’t stay and million reasons why we can’t leave. We all have our personal reasons.

    Don’t worry, Mackemlander, Excelsior and Hugh the Pain, Stavers will save you!

    I won’t stand and be abused. No wars were won that way.
    Troy will continue his vocal battle and sing his heart out when the “GET OUT OF OUR CLUB” song starts up in the ground. He will be there to voice his opinions after the game in any organised demonstration. He will sicken Ashley so much he will think to himself, “THIS IS NOT WORTH THE EFFORT”.

    Yes, folks there is a way out of being battered. Face up and fight!!!

  30. I’ve told you Mackemlander

    I don’t own a season ticket.

    I have been to as many games this season as you.

    Missed one.

    Watched every away game on tv when its been on.

    Fortunately for me, I have someone who invites me along so i don’t need to pay. Does that make me a supporter or just a fan?

    Going back to the point about your lilly livered argument. Just support and don’t demonstrate.

    I refer the right honourable Mackem to my previous answer mr. speaker.

    Where do you live Mackemlander? Just for the record?

  31. You go to some games.. Which is more than Stardust !

    I think Stardust is a step ahead of you.. he’s been boycotting the ganes for 20 years !!!!!!!

    ps i am not shaun

  32. Nah man, I’m East End born and bred me man Stavers, Durham is just one Mag better off noo! Benwell?? Aye proper radge ower that way, nee arguments here. Rutherford school was lush, always enjoyed that game…….

  33. Is Durham Geordieland?

    You call yourself Geordielander? why?

    Nothing to do with Stardust this.

    He is not even a fan of the club. He is a hater of the common man.

  34. Not sure about that excuse browbeatmag!

    That wouldn’t be my handle if I was from the east end.

    Nowt to be ashamed of being a St. anthonys rogue man.

    or are you a byker scally.

    all the same, the roughest place in the toon since the west and scotchy was knocked doon!

  35. Hold on shaun?

    I know you.

    You werent born in newcastle so why lie.

    By the way, my name is not troy its tony.

    Gateshead, born, never left, never will.

    You now live in durham?

  36. Browbeatmag,

    You’ve clammed up.?

    Cat got your tongue, mouse chewed your nob? or just plain stoopid?

  37. I now live in County Durham.. Benwell Bred.. Not called shawn so i’m not sure why you call me this….

    My point being that a boycott is not the way forward !!

  38. by the way, it doesn’t cost anything extra to have a video for your photo?

    Why do you’s all have boring photos?

    Strange.

    Maybe, again, i’m one step ahead of the game.

    OOOOOh yesh

  39. okay, shaun, i’ll pretend not to know you.

    keep it a secret then.

    Have you read my reasoning about the 1970’s and McKeag era.

    If you have an opinion then it’s a good idea to back it up with reasoning instead of saying, i don’t agree.

    Howay son, read, digest and give an argument which i can listen to instead of sounding like my 7 yr old son who, when I say, why you ripping up today’s papers, he replies, “COS”.

    Woo hoo hoo hoo. you sound like chip stavers!!

  40. O M G!

    I’ve now upset Mackemlander.

    I’ve scared off Excelsior, hugh the pain, and now mackemlander with my direct questioning.

    Sorry for being direct. What do you think of the weather today?

  41. Guys are very aggressive to-night, too much broon or wha!
    Third game of the series, @ Philly(1-1) top of the 4th. Yankees coming to bat trailing (3-0)
    Lets go Yankees !

  42. It all sounds very familiar Hugh !
    Been stating those points on a regular basis for quite some time.
    Top o` the 5th. (3-2)Philly`s, Yankees picked up 2 in the
    4th.
    Lets go Yankees!

  43. WHOOOA! Scared off who, half-pint? Just because I have a life outside this blog doesn’t mean I tremble at you and your opinions. I’ve had experts try and work me over, kidda, and yet here I am…large as life and twice as ugly. I’m having fun reading your, increasingly loopy attempts to bait me.

    I’m in my mid-forties and have supported Newcastle from age 10. Today I find myself in exile, 20 years living/working away have put an unmanageable distance between the club and I. A relative newcomer to blogging (18 months), i’ve found it helps bridge that distance a little.

    Thanks for the unnecessary history lesson.The ousting of McKeag had one, crucial, element to it that the current situation doesn’t have. Can you guess what that is? Back then we had John Hall (and his team) ON THE INSIDE engineering the transfer of power. The fans had their part to play, but don’t tell me the NO SHOWS on match day were solely responsible for the clubs resurrection; anymore than you having a “Quiet” word with Souness resulted in him leaving!

    In order that the protests/boycotts are effective we NEED someone with money and influence FIGHTING to take over the club; that way the storm has an eye, the anger a purpose. John Hall was a lightening rod/symbol of hope for fans discontent…we need a “battering ram” of similar proportions with which to attack Ashley. Otherwise it’s just impotent rage, and will have no more effect on Ashley than mosquitos at a picnic would.

    As far as “One to Ones” go…not my thing. I learned a while ago to keep personal stuff out of blogs, as all it does is provide the unbalanced with ammunition. Thanks for the offer though.

    The hilarious thing is we all want the same outcome….Ashley Out….all we’re disagreeing about is how. As Lincoln said: “We must not be enemies….though passion my have strained, let it never break the bonds of our affection.” I.E. Newcastle United Football Club. I really do hope that, whatever you’re planning works Troy….I mean that, sincerely.

    And, you’re right…I do watch too many movies LOL

  44. There is a simple answer to all of this, those who think they are the hard case rebels with a cause, stop sitting on a fence and boycott the club, club shops, merchandise, sports direct et al. but please please leave the majority of Newcastle United supporters to do what they do best, support the TEAM! No not the owner nor the chairman or whoever else we take a disliking too, just the team.

    To be a fan and supporter of Newcastle United is to follow them through thick and thin, so you idiots with the big “I’m a hero complex” don’t kid yourself you represent all true fans, or the best of the club, you dont.

    Each to their own.

  45. excelsior. . . You mention the one difference between mckeag era and now, that sir john hall was waiting in the wings. Have i just been misinformed about barry moat?
    Besides that excelsior, you miss the whole point of my clearly written post.
    My point was, apathy sets in with fans and they stop going.
    I see the appointment of caretaker richard dinnis to manager, in the late 70s, as being the same as houghtons appointment. Fans stood back and watched the club fall apart , crowds plummeted to less than 10k. It was too late to protest, there was no one there to do it.
    My point is, we will go exactly the same way unless we sicken the fat man until he thinks its not worth the hassle to carry on.
    Far from being a big man or whatever term you want to call me, i think of myself more of a modern day hero!