Newcastle United vs S.C.Braga match highlights

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1. positives:

   never lost
   scored from a corner
   not as much hoofball
   any more?

   negatives:

   horrible kit
   no attempt at trying new formations or youngens in a friendly
   too much wronga and sports direct logos
   we was sh*t

2. Fortunately I was fishing all afternoon, missed the game.
   Braga’s defence was atrocious defending the corner, with eight men as opposed to four Newcastle attackers in the box., four men could have ball watched and four stay glued to each attacker, but they appeared to ignore Colo., gifting him a free header, which in turn gave us the draw.
   Awfull, as was the Debuchy kick after being nutmeged, he certainly has no compunction in putting his foot in, noticed that last season
   I don’t know, on paper we appear to have a decent side, with a number of full French internationals who could with a manager, that is a real manager, be fairly competitive.
   If I was in Ashley’s shoes I would tell Joe to hell with another striker, find me a good young manager who understands which direction football is going, a student of the game and get rid of this bullshitter, or it’s more of the same.

3. @ Chuck
   what ya mean to say is find a young manager with no experience and hope for the best,laughable bud

4. Utterly crap!, No fight, No heart,No philosophy of football, No style!
   I just had a look at The Chronic’s website, And you have Pardew and Carver, Standing there with inane grins on their faces.
   You would think everything in the garden was rosy, It must be true about, “Ignorance is bliss”.

   It seems everyone can see what the problems are, Except Pardew.
   Is there something wrong with the bloke’s sanity?, Because he is clearly walking around with his head in the clouds.

   Jonas was p*ss poor again, But seems to find his way onto the team sheet.
   I cannot understand how he gets a start, He did one thing right in the first half, And gave away possession about 4 or five times, The rest of the time.

   Where are Mike Ashley’s brains?, He should do himself a favour, And get rid of Pardew now.
   This situation is not going to improve, So they should just pay him what he’s owed.
   It could cost him a hell of a lot more, If he does not act.
   They should make the change now, Regardless of the bad timing, So a “New Broom” can come in, And effect change quickly, Before we end up in crisis!

5. Chuck says:
   August 11, 2013 at 12:35 am

   “Fortunately I was fishing all afternoon, missed the game.”

   I did tell everyone that you were probably playing with your cockles again, Chuck.

6. TOONARMYELITE says:
   August 11, 2013 at 1:53 am

   “@ Chuck
   what ya mean to say is find a young manager with no experience and hope for the best”

   I advocated that too when I said that the club should have gone for Oscar Garcia, the new manager of Brighton. He’s only been a manager for a year (at Maccabi Tel Aviv), but I’d still rather have him over someone with “experience” like Alan Pardew, Steve Bruce or Mark Hughes.

7. Dokky says:
   August 10, 2013 at 11:16 pm

   “not as much hoofball
   any more?”

   The team did start to curb that tendency a bit towards the end of last season. I still don’t like to see Krul keep hoofing it up the pitch though at times when a more civilised side would roll it to a defender and gradually build up play from the back.

8. Toon light

   Young is a relative term by which I mean those in an age group such as Martinez, Laudrup, Clarke, Potchettino etc.
   If you consider someone like those mentioned as laughable, then…….
   No doubt you would prefer to keep Pardew, from your comment, now that’s really laughable !

9. Worky

   Nah ! The cockles have been consumed, caught a few decent pollock, unfortunately no cod or Ling, but jigged for some Mackarel which I got for supper.
   Nothing like having fish right outta the water, broiled the Mackrel skin side up, to crisp the skin,
   The Japanese know that in both many vegetables and fish the nutrition is in both the skin and in larger fish the marrow.
   Made some good stock from the pollock heads and what was left after filleting, plus the gulls got a decent feed.
   I gotta family of magpies living in the area (no not Newcatle fans) like Crows, smart birds, but not exactly endearing, as they bully the smaller birds and tend to poach, the food I leave for them.
   And like crows, if you chase them or make an aggressive move to them, they don’t forget and let you know by what appears to be a scolding whenever you make an appearance.

10. Worky

    Nah ! The cockles have been consumed, caught a few decent pollock, unfortunately no cod or Ling, but jigged for some Mackarel which I got for supper.
    Nothing like having fish right outta the water, broiled the Mackrel skin side up, to crisp the skin,
    The Japanese know that in both many vegetables and fish the nutrition is in both the skin and in larger fish the marrow.
    Made some good stock from the pollock heads and what was left after filleting, plus the gulls got a decent feed.
    I gotta family of magpies living in the area (no not Newcatle fans) like Crows, smart birds, but not exactly endearing, as they bully the smaller birds and tend to poach, the food I leave for them.
    And like crows, if you chase them or make an aggressive move to them, they don’t forget and let you know by what appears to be a scolding whenever you make an appearance.

    Perhaps if the Newcastle fans used the same tactics as the Magpies whenever Pardew makes an appearance it may help in getting him into “The Taxi”.

    Perhaps we could have a poll on how long it will take on a monthly basis as to how long Pardew will last.
    After all with the revolving door managerial policies in the EPL, he has outlasted even decent managers, so had our other footballing genius Ashley not given the guy an eight year deal, he would have probably be long gone.
    Ah well !

11. Chuck, I think we’ve heard enough about your cockles and your pollocks now! :-)

12. We didn’t play utterly terribly, I mean it wasn’t like Liverpool. A tree stump could manage better than Pardew and hopefully that will be what we have this season – a fist pumping tree stump who Uncle Joe tells to leave the team the f#ck alone.

    When Jonas went off we looked a lot better.

13. @ Chuck
    unlike yourself i dont rate Martinez, the dudes teams cant defend, but we had this convo before and you still spouting on about him

14. so yes i do find it laughable

15. @ workey and chuck
    pards has got til at least xmas to turn things around, so i do hope you 2, aint ganna be calling for his head every 30 secs

16. never know he could prove a lot of us wrong,but at the very lest we got to give the dude a fair crack of the whip in my view

17. I’m all for giving someone the chance to turn things around, But does anyone see anything about the way Pardew goes about his job, That would inspire that confidence in him?

    I think he should have been gone at the end of last season, And giving him more time, Will not show an upturn in fortunes.
    The only way he will turn things around, Is if he gets some lucky results, Like he did two years ago.
    It is the results business, And there is a slim chance he could get lucky.
    If it comes down to sheer ability as a Football manager, Then he has, As the Aussies would say, “He’s got Buckley’s”!

    It’s not just him to blame though, Collectively it seems they have done “Sweet Fanny Adams”, To arrest what occurred last term.
    People deserve a holiday, But after the season they had, Personally if it was me, I would have been glued to my desk, To ensure it didn’t happen again.
    They all just went away and sunned themselves, Then Ashley threw another brick in the pond, With his appointment of Joe Kinnear, Who celebrated his new job, By going on holiday.
    All they have done is propagated the terms for it all to happen again.

    Pardew kept silent then returned to basically do the same thing he has done from day one, Preside over another disastrous pre-season.
    IMO nothing has changed, And he is still persisting with the same philosophy that has got him into trouble, In the first place.
    I’m amazed he might think he can achieve different results, With the same hand dealt.
    All the demons that dogged them last season, Are still there, So on a rational basis, You would expect the same outcome, Wouldn’t you?
    Even without the Europa league distraction, His problems were not to do with tiredness, But rather repeated and schoolboy errors, On the pitch.

18. Geordies who siill live in Newcastle, what would you say were the best places for a pre-post match pint?

    I have to answer that question for a piece I’m writing and I know places I’ve been. However, I’ve lived in London for a long time so obviously, those of you who still live in the area will be greater experts than I and might know of somewhere I haven’t thought of.

    It would be great if you could help me out.

19. Depends what you’re after, but I like Strawberry and the Percy’s. Strawberry is convenient but it gets very busy. Percy’s is more traditional.

20. Looks like there was finally a clear plan for the corner kick. Ben Arfa taking the kick (who is a better corner taker than Cabaye) one player to stand in front of the ‘keeper to make it harder for him to leave the goal / get a tap-in. Four players from a starting position bunched together until the kick so as to make it harder to mark them. A few players around the edge of the box like Cabaye to take a shot if the ball isn’t cleared properly. Why couldn’t they have done that last season? Did we have to wait until pre-season before doing something new on the training ground? If they took this routine and had maybe another one or two surely that would result in more goals from corners. Especially as we aren’t the biggest side in the league.

21. I would like to see an alternative corner where it’s a short corner involving Ben Arfa kicks it to a player short, runs onside, gets it back and then have two or three players who are the best dribblers and try and get into the box with the aim of getting fouled in the box or getting a shot away. They could say before the game we will alternate between the two routines and everyone knows there role. Why couldn’t Parsnip have figured this out before now?

22. joe hawkins says:
    August 11, 2013 at 4:47 pm
    ‘does anyone see anything about the way Pardew goes about his job, That would inspire that confidence in him?’
    The way he goes about his job is to do what he is told from Ashley and Kinnear, bs the fans and the players, put up with interference that others wouldn’t. Get us to finish comfortably but not in the Europa League because there is no financial incentive. As long as he does this he is safe as houses. Plus Barton said this about him and Joey Barton seems to always tell it as it is.
    “For me he is the best English coach I’ve worked with, by a considerable distance.

    “He is a very good man manager. I know he fancies himself as a bit of a looker, I mean most Cockneys are that way inclined.

    “But he is a really amicable guy. A really good man manger, tactically very astute.”

23. Pete_toon says:
    August 11, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    “Depends what you’re after, but I like Strawberry and the Percy’s. Strawberry is convenient but it gets very busy. Percy’s is more traditional.”

    Cheers for that, Pete, it’s much appreciated!

    DJG, you live up there, don’t you? Where would you recommend for a pre-match pint?

    I know where I go but as I’ve lived in London for so long, I can’t really say I’m an ‘expert’ anymore.

24. @worky 18

    we go to bar loco. i also like the trent house but it gets rammed and the irish club and rosies on stowell st.

    tilley’s and the bodega, both on westgate rd are decent.

25. Cheers Stewpot. Once again, much appreciated!

    Bar Loco was a canny enough place of I remember rightly.

26. workyticket @23

    I wouldn’t recommend The Percy or the Strawberry just before a match, it would be absolutely heaving and you would hardly get through the door! You might be able to get in somewhere like Rosie’s or The Newcastle Arms is nearby. It depends how close you want to be to the stadium.

27. Stewpot @24 obviously likes a decent pint pre-match.

28. Aware it was a friendly but we don’t seem to have moved on from last season at all, same tactics, same positioning, same lack of movement
    Fear the worst for next Monday against Citeh but hoping for the best

    On paper the first team is as strong as it’s ever been in a long time, sadly the coaching staff and Pards seem to have no idea

29. Pardew is tactically astute, The proof is in the pudding, And there for all to see.
    I like Joey Barton, But i would strongly disagree with him in regards to Pardew.
    He does seem to like it when he is out on the training pitch, And probably good in that respect, ie having a laugh with the lads etc.
    At the end of the day, So was Terry Mac, Life and soul of the party so to speak, The less said on that the better!

    Pardew is not a good match day manager imo, And very rarely gets things right.
    For all the pieces of paper he furiously scribbles on, Never yield anything.
    He may have made a good number two, Whether his ego would have made that possible, Who knows?
    One thing is for certain, He will never be good enough to be a manager, In the top two tiers.
    He might get away with it further down the pyramid, Because i don’t think Pardew is any better than say, Garry Johnson, At Yeovil.

30. In fact i would say Pardew isn’t as good as Garry Johnson!

31. DJG says:
    August 12, 2013 at 2:26 am

    “I wouldn’t recommend The Percy or the Strawberry just before a match, it would be absolutely heaving and you would hardly get through the door!2

    I agree, DJG. I don’t even try when there’s a match on. We usually go somewhere well up the road when we’re up there. That’s another reason why I was asking as well as being an outsider nowadays. Thanks alot for that!

32. DJG says:
    August 11, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    “The way he goes about his job is to do what he is told from Ashley and Kinnear, bs the fans and the players, put up with interference that others wouldn’t. Get us to finish comfortably but not in the Europa League because there is no financial incentive. As long as he does this he is safe as houses. Plus Barton said this about him and Joey Barton seems to always tell it as it is.”

    If Kinnear is Pardew’s boss, I’m not sure if Pardew has realised yet with some of the comments he’s made about him. As for Barton, that was at the height of Pardewmania. There was talk of Pardew for England and I was getting stuff ranging from pompous comments to full on hate mail in my armoured bunker for my failiure to gush about him 24/7. I still don’t know what Joey was smoking on that day though.

33. I reckon managers like Nigel Clough, Billy Davies, Franco Zola, Gus Poyet, Could do a better job than Pardew.
    Step up in level, But with better tools at their disposal, Given the chance, Could outstrip Alan.
    Frankly it wouldn’t take much doing IMO, Even a novice manager in Di Canio, Was able to lift a team, And tactically turn him over, In only his second game in charge!

34. Joe, I’m not the biggest expert, but I think Billy Davies is one of the few gobshites who could really give Pardew a run for his money.

35. anyone got any news on the transfer front?
    not that im expecting much

36. Worky, That’s what i’m saying, Pardew is of a similar ability, If not worse, Than some of the names, I’ve mentioned.
    He basically got the Newcastle job, Through the classic old saying, “It’s not what you know, It’s who you know”, And because he knew Llambias through his West Ham days.

    I’m not saying any of these characters would set the world alight, But by the same token, Not do much worse, Than the current incumbent.

37. GS, you put your last comment on a Chelsea match preview from way back.

38. Is that what that was? I just clicked on the previous comment and assumed it was the current thread. Did you read Louise’s piece? I liked the bit where it said that the predicted finish of 12th was a consensus of Guardian writers and not necessarily Louise’s prediction. Whatever she says, we all know she wants us bottom 3.

39. That bloody woman has a mouth like a broken fuse box.

    I’ll read it later.

40. According to Sky Sports, Newcastle Utd, Have now backedc away from a deal for Bafetimbi Gomis, Sky Sports understands.
    Lyon’s President has said there is now nothing on the table for him, So both parties will have to swallow their pride, And work something out, Because he needs to be playing regular football.
    Newcastle will now turn to other targets, Who else is on the radar?, Because they have cooled their interest in Bent, Also.

41. joe hawkins says:
    August 12, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    “According to Sky Sports, Newcastle Utd, Have now backedc away from a deal for Bafetimbi Gomis, Sky Sports understands.”

    I’m just reading the latest French guff on it, Joe.

    Personally, I’m not as fussed about the transfer window carry on and getting a sixth / seventh striker in as some fans seemingly. Virtually everyone seems to be pointing the finger at everything except the real problem. The Silver Supremo is made of teflon.

    To put things in perspective, Swansea had Luke Moore and some Israeli gadgie, both of whom hardly ever scored last season. Michu’s an attacking midfielder who was shoved up front a few times to great effect. We have Cisse, Remy, Gouffran, Shola and that little Ginger Geordie bairn, Campbell.

42. I always had trouble believing they’d actually buy two forwards in any case. More troubling though: no link to the wide midfielder(s) or fullback(s) we could still use.

43. Don’t know if it’s an urban myth or not and Chuck could probably confirm or otherwise but there is apparently a town in America where the mayor is dead and keeps getting re-elected. This has been happening for many many years and it is because, after he died and several months/years later before someone new was elected they found the town was more successful they decided to re-elect the dead mayor and found this worked.

    Just wondering if we perhaps had Sir Bobby or any other of our former, but now deceased managers, as our manager now we might not do better than the present incumbent.

    Got to be worth thinking about and would be perfect for Ashley!!

44. I’ve always thought that myself, That the only players coming in, Would be loan signings.
    Ashley spent his money in January, To not much avail, And Spending 2 million on a loan, Is job done in his eyes.
    That is why this breaking down was predictable, Once they had secured Remy.

    The only way i see us making any movement, Is if Cabaye is punted on, Which Pardew is trying to facilitate, Despite his protestations!

45. Grumpy old-toon, That would be a cracking idea!, Because without a hotline to the other side to Bobby, He would still do a better job than Parnocchio, Without any input!

46. I was listening to the BBC World Service very early this morning (great on world football when they cover it) and they were discussing the thing about sacking managers and the principle of “regression to the mean” again. In terms of sacking managers they have found that teams who stick with their manager after a string of bad results often do better than those who are trigger happy.

47. worky @ 46: I’m sure you can imagine a lot of intervening factors that would make that analysis questionable at best and most likely completely moot. I certainly can, not least: teams considering changing manager likely have many problems (see: NUFC just before AP’s arrival) and/or even most very effective new managers need time to settle (Pochettino @ Southampton). That last example shows what’s really important: timing and making the right decision about the new guy.

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