Newcastle United vs Wigan match highlights and post match interviews

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1. Worky: you actually have HIGHlights to post today. I am so glad we won, it was making me miserable the way were playing (as if you couldn’t tell that by my recent comments :) )

2. 10 men so hard to judge improvement. Definitely tried a more passing orientated game. Anita put himself about and perrformed better than tiote. Santon was class as usual but did struggle on pace against the pacey Stam. Marveaux had his best game for us. Cisse tried but still not at the races compared to Ba. Hope injuries to ba and santon arent serious.

3. 3 points Wooo Hooooooo :)
   Thank Fook.

4. Missed the match, lads. Did Marveaux play in the middle, and if so, how did he do?

5. YankToonFan says:
   December 4, 2012 at 1:19 am

   “Missed the match, lads. Did Marveaux play in the middle, and if so, how did he do?”

   Hang on for a few minutes YankToonFan. I’ll answer all your questions in a minute when I get this post updated!

6. Right YankToon fan!

   Marveaux was like a left sided forward. Gary Neville talking about how Newcastle were better as a 4-3-3 in his punditry, but it certainly looked more like a 4-2-3-1 to me and Jimbob and the average positions seem to bear us out on that.

   Marveaux was in an attacking position on the left hand side anyway, either in a three behind a front striker, or just in a front three on it’s own. Having written that he was cutting in a hell of alot and did spend much of his time right in the middle.

   He was very good overall, and probably one of the best two players behind Demba Ba with his two goals. He did some good bursting runs with the ball into the box, dribbled well, took a pretty good, dangerous free kick and was pretty quick generally. However, we were playing against ten men for nearly all of the game so we probably shouldn’t get too carried away. ;-)

7. Just back from the pub.
   Not a bad game, we played some entertaining football albeit against ten men.
   Which i think ruins a game, better the sin bin.
   Though there were times in the second half when we were pinned back in our own half by Wigan, that should never have happened.
   Lovely goal by Bigi. and have to say most of the kids played well.
   Apart from a couple of shaky moments , between Colo. and Williamson, there were no major screwups.
   Thought most of the side had a good game for themselves, with Anita working hard, representing a decent replacement for Cabaye
   Marveaux had an exceptional run box to box, with the ball.
   Could this be a harbinger of what to expect from both.
   Again Jonas ran like the proverbial ever ready battery, but again his service was lacking.
   Santon is showing why we paid six million for him, though he needs a backup, when he makes his forays.
   Simpson had a good game (give the man a contract)
   There were lots of people looking at players in the stands, who was it they were watching, Tiote, Ba, Santon, who knows?
   What i’m saying here is not only give Simpson a contract, we have one of the leagues most consistent scorers here in Ba.
   Who i believe is asking for around eighty grand a week, hell how much is RvP making, we have a top goalscorer who we got for FA and what are we doing to keep him ?
   Chiseling, nickel and dimeing the guy, these assholes are unbelievable.
   Well thats three points, badly needed.
   I hope our two footballing geniuses dont take this as a sign we are on our way back up the league.
   We gotta tough schedule ahead and need all the help we can get.

8. Thanks, worky! I imagine he was playing in a position quite similar to HBA last year when we went 4-3-3?

   I have always been intrigued by Marveaux playing behind the striker(s), partly because I think Cabaye is better playing deep as a holding midfielder. Hence the need for a more advanced playmaker. Always wondered if Marveaux couldn’t do the job…

   Here’s hoping this is the start of something big, even if against 10-man Wigan!

9. Too much for wigan,even if they had 11,they still woukd have got slapped,we played with some effort,and heart,I dont know if anyone cares or remembers,but I told you all bigi plays with a toon heart,did you see what that goal ment to him?,i thought he was going to cry…

10. I was there and I thought we played in a better way. I think it would have been a closer game if Figeroa wasn’t sent off though. Apart from that great Bigi goal they gave us a bit of a game in the second half and kept us back even though they were one man down. It was great to get the 3-0 win though and I hope we keep playing the way we did last night instead of playing the way we did before.

11. sampdiago, too much for wigan?, you must have been watching a different game to me.
    they started the game really well, and were lucky not to be a goal up, in the first ten minutes.
    if everyone is honest with themselves, we got lucky, and make no mistake.
    we benefited from the soft sending off, and if that hadn’t happened, it did look like it would have been, another night of struggle.

    people might say, oh doom and gloom, but it’s just being honest.
    yes they were three much needed points, and a win is a win, anyway you can get them.
    the reality of the situation is, we had to score three goals at home, to subdue ten men.

    even when we got ourselves into a two goal lead, we never looked convincing.
    we got the same old, same old, from pardew, in the second half.
    what do his half time team talks consist of?, you would have thought he would have told them to go out, and have a right go at wigan, to get their confidence levels up.
    what do you get though, they let wigan back into the game, and for the first 20 minutes of the second half, wigan with ten men, were the better side.

    like i’ve come to expect from pardew’s team, it was a moment of individual skill, that broke wigan hearts.
    good on young bigiramana, he’s gave himself a cracking memory, not many will score a goal, as good as that for you first, in the premiership.
    up until that point, wigan were looking dangerous, and imagine what it would have been like, if they managed to pull one back.

    santon getting injured was a blow, as i think he is one of our best performers, so lets hope, he’s not out for too long.

    jonas, i still have no idea, what he’s supposed to be doing.
    he seems to be the first name on the teamsheet, he works hard, but ever time he takes possession of a football, he invariably wastes it.

    marveux was good, and pardew should give the lad more starts, because he has a good engine, and has the creativity that is lacking throught the team.

    williamson and collicini, didn’t look with it again, and it was criminal the way the two of them conspired to give away the ball, in a dangerous area, early on.
    it was suicidal, and we could have had a mountain to climb, if that had come off, for wigan.
    so they have a lot to work on, when they get on the training pitch.
    if they carry on making basic errors like that, it will be a worry, in the games we have coming up.

    cisse still looks a shadow of the player, he was last season, apart from a couple of long range efforts, he never looked like getting on the score sheet.

    vernon anita is struggling with the physical demands, of the premier league, and took a few pastings.

    we look a much improved side with more threat, when we play the 4-3-3 system, hopefully pardew will now get the message.
    which brings us on to the future england manager, and “silver supremo”.
    i watched his interview on sky sports, that bloke is cringeworthy, to say the least.
    you find yourself sitting there embarrassed for him, your screaming at the screen, “shut up you prat”!.
    how much more todying and crawling, is he going to do?
    you would have been mistaken for thinking he was an actor, receiving an oscar.
    “i would just like to thank the chairman, the players, the fans, the tea lady, for the support, they have given me”.
    he hasn’t achieved anything yet, and we are still in the mire.
    the bloke is seriously deluded, as much as his fat employer, and his gimp.
    he is starting to look more and more strange, every time you see him.
    if mike ashley is “jabba the hutt”, then pardew looks like that little creature, that sits beside him in, “the return of the jedi”.

    all in all, three points is three points, a couple of positives to take away from the game, but also a lot of “food for thought”, because imo we still haven’t turned a corner, and looked poor at times.
    the result is still papering over cracks, and hiding a multitude of sins.

12. Hard to judge against ten men but marveux and Anita looked bright. Still have nightmares about the chuckle brothers at the back collo and willo but 3pts is 3pts so we will see what the next game brings.

13. @trojan

    agree with just about everything you’ve said there mate.

    except i thought anita was man of the match, didn’t get intimidated by the treatment he was getting and more importantly protected the back 4… who even agaianst 10 men still needed some protecting.

    much better display all around. still think the problem for cisse is tactical and despite the shape he and ba were still making the same runs, especially at set-pieces.

    was a soft penalty and a soft red card. wigan were still in the game until bigi scored, that is a tactical problem again!

    encouraged by marveaux, bigi and anita. santon is getting better game by game.

    Back four and Krul still concern me.

14. Aye Stewpot, Anita, though I would still say that Ba and Marveaux were our best players on the night, and Gael Bigirimana if he’d been on for the whole game. His substitute performance was a bit of a revelation and I’m not just saying that because he scored a very good goal. He was right up with the forwards for much of the time he was on and though he was supposed to be mostly a defensive midfielder when he came in, he might have a bit more than that in his game.

15. stewpot, i’m not saying he had a bad game, i just think he is still struggling with the demands of english football.
    there were a few ocassions when he got clattered, and you could see him wincing, he must still be thinking, this is a tough league.

16. Could have easily been more than 3 goals if Tiote could work out where the goal actually is, same with Cisse.

    Most teams get similar breaks at some time in the season and making it pay is the important thing, nice to see we did.

    Definite pen for me, think Gary Neville was trying to be a clever pundit casting doubts on it. Pity as he does come across as someone who could be a decent manager at some point.

17. I think Santon had a good game but he is very one-footed. Wigan were offering him the outside and he still cut inside – often to good effect though.

    Simpson had his usual good game. It has to be a cunning plan by the NUFC “brain trust” to switch Santon to right back because I can’t for the life of me see why Simpson doesn’t deserve as good of a contract as say Jonas.

    By the way, I thought Jonas had his best game for a long time even though he had no end product as TR73 said. That sounds like a contradiction but his scurrying around benefitted the team.

    Just happy for a win.

18. The referee’s view on the penalty and sending off:

    http://refereesassociation.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=3637

    Personally I think it was incredibly harsh and that the referee handed us the game on a silver platter when it was just getting started.

19. i forgot about pardew’s comments on demba ba’s contract, was that another one of those read between the lines, padew utters it, but it’s another coded message, coming from the lowrachy?

    because it’s that time of the year, when the transfer window opens again.
    are we being fed a lot of crap yet again?, along the same line of, lets scaremonger the fans into thinking our players are venerable to a sale, then when we tie them to a contract, it will steer them away from the fact we probably wont sign anyone of note again?
    everyone will be thankful that none of our big hitters, have been sold, and how all the tranfer kitty, was used in securing these deals.
    pardew saying, “let me mark your cards, about tranfer dealings”, moments, as per usual.
    or something along the lines of them not wanting to spend money, because the mayan calendar, said the end of the world was coming, so we had to factor this into our plans.

    as for the sending off last night, football is supposed to be a full contact sport, all this diving crap, is ruining the game.
    take it back to the old days, when they were knocking them six foot up in air, and kicking everything above grass.
    it’s a man’s game ffs, no offence to any ladies reading this, but you know what i mean.
    we might as well not bother, if they are going to sanitise the game, any further.

    there’s also too many referees trying to make a name a name for themselves, with controversial moments, and giving red cards, for namby pampy reasons.
    you used to literally have to commit murder to get sent off, it p’s me off to see all this sissy stuff, nowadays.
    giving people yellow cards for throwing the ball away, what a load of s**t, and if the ref gives a bad decision, a player sshould be allowed to tell him , to go and get f**ked, without getting sent off.
    too many matches are being spoilt, by the do gooding brigade, as usual.
    it’s a passionate game, and that should not be forgotten about.

20. TROJAN

    Hey ! dont hold back, say what you mean man.
    Kidding !
    Certainly agree with most of your assessment.
    Then it suddenly came to me how many clone-like players we have.
    Tiote-Bigi
    HBA-Marveaux
    Cabaye-Anita
    Ba-Cisse
    Williamson-Colo, kidding folks!

    But, if we could have all eleven starters or as “wor Derick” (that footballing genius) has it “Purple Players”
    each having his clone, with a few more that are versitile enough to fill different roles.
    Would be the perfect solution to our injury problems.
    I’m kidding of course, but dont tell Mick & Derick, as they may take it serious and add it to their other crazy policies, that are going to show the rest of the EPL clubs how to operate.
    The news concerning Ba is unsettling and from the amount of people in the stands from other clubs, they were there to assess some player or other, guess who?

    Our Grey Gadgie aught to keep his gob shut, advocating a retun of Carroll in a trade for Ba.
    And to actually consider giving Liverpool both Ba and cash, is ridiculous.
    Look we got the guy for next to nowt, give him a contract, after all how much did Man. U. pay for RvP and how much are they paying him.
    And while we are at it give Simpson a contract, noticed no-one gave him a rating in yesterdays game, but the guy was outstanding.
    But then what the hell do i know about anything?

21. I’ve just posted a full match video for anyone who’s interested:

    https://nufcblog.org/2012/12/newcastle-united-vs-wigan-athletic-full-match-video-highlights-and-interviews/

22. TROJAN
    I hope we actually do find our star players venerable (typo) and intend to keep them, especially Ba. and give Simpson a contract, he’s been on penuts for too long.
    Appears a case of trying to keep a salary cap in place, which has been tried before by a number of clubs.
    Guess what, didn’t work.

    As for the penalty, bit harsh, but the sending off was worse, ruins games, especially when it accurs in the early stages of the game.
    I’m in favor of the sin-bin solution used in Ice-hockey and Rugby,a punishment, not so final or drastic.

    Now i see some fans believe that football was organized mayhem, back in the day.
    Comparing it with to-days game.
    Let me inform you, it was anything but the case, why ?
    Because it was for the most part, regulated by the players themselves.
    Diving was virtually unknown and anyone attempting it was given short shrift, by both players and ref.
    Yes there was lesser protection given to goalies and shoulder charges were part of the game and cretainly there were clubs with reputations as tough hard tackling sides.
    But the general opinion was, it’s a mans game, played by the rules and if you cant take the heat stay out of the kitchen.
    The academy award rolling on the ground would have been jeered at, by fans of both sides.
    I think it’s fair to say, the more recent diving an pressing the ref to award cards is a cultural import brought by players from outside the UK, that plus the change in rules (tackling from behind etc.) which some are good and others questionable.
    My point is there are more uncalled for interuptions of the game, than in the day, sometimes a ploy to gain an advantage, or rest and unless it’s obviously either a serious injury or head injury, the game should continue.

23. I didn’t see this poor reffing I read about. Specifically I don’t understand all the hand-wringing over the pen & red. THAT is why players embellish and go down dramatically. It was a definite foul in the box and Figueroa was the last man. How is that-according to the law-NOT a penalty & red? Just because he didn’t steamroll him studs up or break his leg or elbow him bloody doesn’t mean it isn’t a foul. If it’s a foul it’s a penalty. If he’s the last man it’s a red. The key to good reffing is keeping it simple and applying the law to what you see-not trying to think of whatever extenuating circumstances might justify not applying it. Contrary to popular belief, it is not in the ref’s remit to limit his influence as much as possible. His job is to apply the law. How much he is involved is up to the players.

24. Who’s the ref at that link, worky?

    TR-have you ever wondered about the effect on the game of allowing millionaire meatheads rant at the ref with no consequences? I’m guessing good potential refs might feel drawn to other lines of work.

    chuck-I don’t get the penalty box obsession. Why change a fundamental aspect of the sport? Why not just watch ice hockey or rugby? If you’ve like football up to now I doubt you’d like it with penalties. What happens in hockey: lots of opportunities ended with a “professional foul”. The speed of hockey and small size of the puck compared to the goal and as a more lax offside rule keep every game from ending up 0-0 or 1-0. With 2-minute penalties, the vast majority of football matches would end 0-0.

25. i’ve just sussed my typo lol.

26. So erm where was Gutierrez playing and what was his role in the team ? As usual I can’t see what his job is meant to be. He put in a couple of poor in swinging crosses from deepish on the left side and that was about it. Oh ye and he fell over a couple of times after someone nudged him in the back.

27. Paulos

    Exactly ! to play him as a left winger is an entire waste of time.
    Everyone used to voice the opinion, he and Enrique linked up well to-gether.
    At least when Enrique took the ball upfield, there was a chance of somethong happening.
    With Jonas, he’s like Santon, cutting in to-wards midfield, to get the ball on his right foot.
    Sorry the question is what do we do with Jonas?
    I have been saying for ages he can fill the central defending role, which Pardew has had him playing recently, after all he provides nothing in the attacking role.
    And believe it all of the EPL defensive units are aware of it.
    Actually, i believe Santon can be a great attacking wing back, in the style of Gareth Bale.
    Question is should we employ him at either RB (where he could provide the perfect cross)
    Or LB (where he can take shots like the one Ba scored from, as a rebound?)after cutting to-wards goal.
    We are lucky to have both him and the choice of where he can play, as long as we have someone to cover defensively.

28. TUNYC
    I have no idea of what you are talking about ?

    I have stated now and in he past, that i think both the yellow and red card system used presently is not the answer.

    It’s too final and severe and in the case of the Wigan game, to have someone sent off in the early stage of the game, almost seals the result and spoils the game.

    Not only does it change the balance and recourse for the depleted side, it makes a traversty of the game.
    Whereas a limited time out for the offendeing player, say ten to twenty minutes, would IMO, be a fairer penalization.

    As to Rugby and Ice Hockey, i will watch them if i choose to, without any prompting from you.

    Seems like you are not in favour of introducing any changes which IMO could improve the game, so be it.
    But if so , perhaps you could present an argument as to why ?
    I realise you attempted to, but really didn’t understand what you were on about?

29. chuck-there are fundamental aspects of any sport/game which, if changed, make it a different game. Goalline technology, I’m all for. I don’t see referees missing goals as a fundamental part of the sport. The yellow/red card system is, to me, fundamental.

    I think it would be a less effective deterrent. I see teams have a man advantage for 65 minutes and make nothing of it. What difference would 10 minutes make? Also, it would make it very easy to decide to take fouls late in the game-hey, you don’t have to serve the full penalty (happens a lot in hockey).

    The ref didn’t ruin the game Monday. If anyone, Figueroa did with what he knows was an awful challenge.

    To be serious: do you watch any sports that use the sin bin?