Stoke City vs Newcastle United match banter

Posted on October 31st, 2011 | 144 Comments |

Stoke City vs Newcastle United.
Toon travel to the land of the giants.
Good evening Geordies, and welcome to out regular “match banter” feature for the Magpies’ away trip to the Brittania Studium in Stoke.

This should be a tricky trip to the Potteries, with no quarter given and no prisoners taken. Indeed, Newcastle have yet to beat Stoke in the Premiership in four previous attempts, and if we beat them at the Britannia tonight, it will be for the first time in 26 years.

As usual, you can get the full SP in the run up to the game from Jimbob’s excellent and extensive match preview, and also my own companion piece about what the managers have been saying in the run up to the game. Of course, we shall also be doing a full match report after the game and also posting highlights of the game when they become available.

Unlike our previous League Cup match against Blackburn Rovers, there should be quite a few links for this one. As always, if you find any good ones, please feel free to post them in the comments section below.

Teamsheets

Stoke City (4-4-2): Asmir Begovic (G), Andy Wilkinson, Ryan Shawcross, Jonathan Woodgate, Marc Wilson; Jermaine Pennant, Glenn Whelan, Rory Delap, Matthew Etherington; Jonathan Walters, Peter Crouch.

Subs: Thomas Sorensen, Robert Huth, Kenwyne Jones, Dean Whitehead, Matthew Upson, Cameron Jerome, Wilson Palacios.

Newcastle United (4-4-2): Tim Krul (G), Danny Simpson, Fabricio Coloccini(C), Steven Taylor, Ryan Taylor; Gabriel Obertan, Yohan Cabaye, Danny Guthrie Guthrie, Jonas Gutierrez; Demba Ba, Leon Best.

Subs: Rob Elliot (G), Davide Santon Santon, James Perch, Dan Gosling, Sylvain Marveaux, Hatem Ben Arfa, Sammy Ameobi.

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  7. A conservative set up. I wonder what AP was playing at with the 4-5-1 formation for the second half vs. Wigan and at Blackburn.

  8. Stokes Team: Begovic; Wilkinson, Shawcross, Woodgate, Wilson; Pennant, Whelan, Delap, Etherington; Walters, Crouch

    No clue about the subs yet

  10. Phisix says:
    October 31, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    “Stokes Team: Begovic; Wilkinson, Shawcross, Woodgate, Wilson; Pennant, Whelan, Delap, Etherington; Walters, Crouch

    No clue about the subs yet£

    Thanks Phisix.

  12. I thought Best was absent due to tonsilitis ?
    Why is Guthrie playing in Tiote’s role as he’s surely not a defensive midfielder unless Cabaye takes on the mantle ?
    IMO the bench looks stronger than the team apart from Perch of course :)

  13. Stoke v Newcastle line-ups
    Stoke: Begovic, Wilkinson, Shawcross, Woodgate, Wilson, Pennant, Delap, Whelan, Etherington, Walters, Crouch. Subs: Sorensen, Huth, Jones, Whitehead, Upson, Jerome, Palacios.
    Newcastle: Krul, Simpson, Steven Taylor, Coloccini, Ryan Taylor, Obertan, Guthrie, Cabaye, Gutierrez, Best, Ba. Subs: Elliot, Santon, Ben Arfa, Perch, Gosling, Marveaux, Shola Ameobi.
    Referee: Mike Dean (Wirral)

  16. Phisix says:
    October 31, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    “How do you know that mate?”

    If you mean the touchlines, it was the live text updates from the club site.

  17. I think PL teams should sack their managers and replace them with pundits (didn’t we do that once?). Pundits are amazing – they seem to have the answer to every footballing problem.

  19. Phisix says:
    October 31, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    “Good stream like guys!”

    Aye Phisix, don’t click on the plugin things whatever you do though. Just wait for the ad to run it’s course for 30 seconds, then close it at the top.

  23. workyticket says:

    Andy Mac says:
    October 31, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    “I thought Best was absent due to tonsilitis ?”

    Jimbob’s a divvy man! :-)

    Nah JB was spot on WT I just read summat over the weekend that Best had tonsilitis, unfortunately he hasnt :(

  25. So Stoke have the pitch brought in smaller for league games for Delap’s throw ins but UEFA says it has to be a minimum size for european games? Surely you shouldn’t be able to chop and change the size of your pitch on a game by game basis?

  26. Scott says:

    “Surely you shouldn’t be able to chop and change the size of your pitch on a game by game basis?”

    This is the Premier League m8, anything goes !

  33. Andy Mac says:
    October 31, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    “Ba looks up for this having upset the Stoke fans after his goal”

    Andy, I think it was because he had the nerve to flatten a Stoke player for a while when it’s supposed to be them flattening us.

  34. Excellent so far. Stoke are so one dimensional it’s embarrassing. Pennant or long throw… If we keep our containment as it is, we’ve got this game.

  41. Haha Pulis must be looking at his medical team and thinking Fookwits !!
    Great 1st half and we don’t even look like we have broke a sweat.
    Obertans ball was a peach…..Proper Buzzing me !!

  43. I do reckon BA’s knee will explode at some point…just hope it doesn’t mess Cabaye’s hairstyle!

  44. Loving the performance, I do see what Trap means though, Best spends a lot of time ambling about waiting for the ball. Think he gets a lot of space because of it though, maybe it’s he’s trying to be inconspicuous, can’t believe he wasn’t picked up for Ba’s second.

  45. We still have a lot of defending to do in this second half, I hope Allen can keep them focused for the next half. Another clean sheet would just be epic!

  46. Also loved Pulis’ tactics…2-0 down, bring on the big defender! Hopefully he won’t score.

  47. Andy Mac @ 42

    Good point. We’ve got the only player wearing a mask on Halloween. Psychological edge.

  51. julio laker says:
    October 31, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    “Best spends a lot of time ambling about waiting for the ball. Think he gets a lot of space because of it though, maybe it’s he’s trying to be inconspicuous, can’t believe he wasn’t picked up for Ba’s second.”

    People used to say similar things about Chris Waddle sometimes, but he was a great player because he was thinking and ambling around in all the right places.

  52. Coloccini is such a classy player, been brialliant again today, knew I was right all along! Loving Demba Ba too!!!

  53. I’m sorry but Stoke arent playing football its more like rollerball :( If every team did this then the BPL would be a laughing stock !

  59. Andy Mac says:
    October 31, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    “I’m sorry but Stoke arent playing football its more like rollerball2

    I think of American football when I see Stoke. Some gadgie throws the ball about a mile or kicks the ball about a mile, then there’s about fifteen seconds of action in some kind of “play”, then they’re all milling around again. They should all go out with big pads on and helmets.

    How can you give a friggin’ penalty to Stoke!!

  69. Pardew’s going to have to earn his wages now. They’ve got three forwards running at a back four plus Pennant !

    Oh feck he’s brought on Perch :(

  72. Perch took 42 seconds to get in the book. With HBA and Gosling available, this guy is our best option?!

    Apparently we’re going to be very busy in January…

  78. “Walking along, singing a song, walking in a Pardew wonderland”….for the fair weather supporters, you’re probably really struggling now eh ? Absolutely brilliant tactical game by Pardew, got it spot on so far..

  81. “Some would argue that penalty is just what Stoke deserve for their bullying tactics”…….eh ?

  82. Workey

    Thought you dont like him or didnt used to lol sorry i might be wrong havnt been on here in a while :)

  85. Toon_Factor says:
    October 31, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    “Workey

    Thought you dont like him or didnt used to lol sorry i might be wrong havnt been on here in a while”

    I don’t think he’s a great manager or some kind of tactical mastermind.

  87. workyticket @ 83: “I don’t think [Pardew]’s…some kind of tactical mastermind.”

    What, the guy who brings on Perch to play CDM late in a close game?

  88. “I don’t think he’s a great manager or some kind of tactical mastermind”….says it all actually… :roll: :roll:

  89. Munich Mag

    Really? I dont understand that he’s been brilliant!

    Worky

    Well at least hes doing a good job, ive enjoyed watching our team this season.

  94. Doubters can jog on now. We have to be counted now. That not enough? Wait until the month of death when we nab a few points and stay high!

  95. Toon_Factor says:
    October 31, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    “Worky

    Well at least hes doing a good job, ive enjoyed watching our team this season.”

    Aye, our first team has a very good balance of players, and they’re highly motivated, hard working and skillful.

  98. workyticket says:

    “Aye, our first team has a very good balance of players, and they’re highly motivated, hard working and skillful”

    Doubling up on both wingers every time we lose the ball is hard work but not tactical :). Maybe that Makem with the physiology programme needs to be nobbled before he gives the game away ?

  103. “Doubling up on both wingers every time we lose the ball is hard work but not tactical”……eh ?

  107. Curno@104…not on this blog he isn’t…

    I personally think Krul is a great “prospect”, cos he is really still learning his trade. When you consider Man Utd paid loads of money, maybe 20 million for DeGea, and imo Krul is on par with him at least..

  108. Curno says:
    October 31, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    “Is it me, or is tim krul one of the best keepers in the game”

    Fair play to him, but he still has things to work on, and he isn’t quite one of the best keepers in the game yet. He has pulled off some great saves though.

  110. Munich Mag says:
    October 31, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    “Gary Neville doesn’t have a clue…”

    Well he certainly made alot of sense this evening Munich.

  111. Aye,
    auld gareth has been fair & seems to say what he sees.
    There’s long way to gan like.
    :)

  112. CLiNT FLiCK says:
    October 31, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    “If he can sort his wayward kicking out, he’s the best.”

    And being caught off his line just a little too often Clint, which he’s got away with so far this season.

  113. great result against a stoke side who is very strong at home!, kruls kicking was a bit off dont know if he was trying to pick out obertan on the right every time since the ball was heading to him.

  114. worky,
    maybe?
    But tonight them cloggers were trying every trick in the book, mostly dirty tricks.
    He coped well.
    Just some god awful kicking, straight out of play about 3 times running.

  116. worky,
    aye, he ain’t the best yet.
    Gotta smooth out what we’ve discussed & he could well be though.
    That was a massive test of his resolve tonight.
    How they got away with all that barging & pushing in the box was rank. The ref gave them every chance, he even gave them one of the wettest pens ever & they still sucked.
    :lol:

  118. Prety girl yeah you are . Ra Ra Ra your a wreckin’ bar.
    The Vaccines. If you hadn’t already realised that rhymes with Demba Ba!! Where the fludge is our song?

  119. So what was the game like from you arm chair supporters point of view?
    Guthrie was top class tiote will have to wait in line. The team played great. And stoke didn’t like being played at their own game. Raylor long throw was causing then havoc.

  120. CLiNT FLiCK says:
    October 31, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    “pulis looked truly gutted when asked about Ba.”

    Guti still deserved to get the MOTM with him though Clint.

  121. Krul’s kicking is garbage, …..but his shot stopping is mint. Sell him I say, he’s garbage.

  122. worky,
    it was a surprisingly hard call, even though Ba bagged 3.
    All the defenders were worthy, it’s not often you can say that.
    Jonas did his usual tracking back, but at long last, the pundits have noticed. :)
    I think you have to give the hat-trick boy it though.

    MM,
    i certainly include Krul in the defenders. 8 outta 10, the lot of ’em.
    ;)

  124. Clint …the defense were immense today, including our two “weak” full backs. Saylor was particularly good, he should stick with his mask from now on !

    However, I think it will improve the balance of the team no end when we get a left footed full back in the side. No disrepect to Raylor who has been perfoming admirably lately imo.

  125. Clint, Guthrie carried the midfield excellently today, though he tired in the end which was understandable.

  126. MM,
    Totally mate.

    The full backs did their jobs, Saylor wore his hallowe’en mask with pride & together showed why they are the stingiest in the league.
    Excellent stuff!

    We deserved a clean sheet tonight, pity the ref let us down with that pathetic pen, at least he evened it up. So fair play to him.

    Howay the Lads!

    Happy Hallowe’eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!
    :)

  127. Crackin’ result from a tough venue and we’ve bumbed chelski to 4th? WTF? Lovin’ it, need some highlights please!

  134. 3rd – wey ya bugga, I publicaly acknowledge that I know sod all about team selection and will in future leave all such matters in the capable hands of Pardew who obviously knows what he is doing!

    Well, at least until the next match.

    Well done lads, I’m proud of you all.

    Bring on Everton!

    HW Me Bonnie Lads

  136. Pardew got his team and tactics absolutely spot on again tonight. Brilliant management, congratulations to Alan Pardew and the toon for a great performance. Finally we have a manager who knows what he’s doing, and goes about his job humbly and unassumingly. Excellent !

  137. Worky, spelt “bumped” as “bumbed” in my first comment.

    Mr. FLiCK, thankee mate. And the spa does look delightful. Shipping must be a right bitch though.

  138. Team’s working well together and confidence is increasing game by game, Demba looks really lively and appears to be the real deal! Could he be the love child of Darren Bent and John Fashanu? NO! it’s more likely to have been Justin ;)
    Can hear them chanting….
    Ba Ba Demba, can you score a goal?
    Yes Sir! Yes Sir! Three at a stroll!
    One against Blackburn!
    One against Stoke!
    Want one against the Mackem twats,
    ‘cos they’re a fkn joke!
    C’mon the TOON! back where we should be!

  139. Bringbacktheterraces says:
    November 1, 2011 at 12:34 am

    “Could he be the love child of Darren Bent and John Fashanu? NO! it’s more likely to have been Justin”

    The story of his suicide was so awful, tragic and poigniant. I lived in Shoreditch at the time and was only a few yards away from the lock-up garage where he hung himself. He must have had a really horrible end, and all through a stupid mistake and the stupid f***ing media scum.

    I saw him play with Clough’s Nottinghan Forest quite a few years before that and he was great. They beat Leeds United 2-1 at Elland Road. Clough really f***ed him up too with his old fashioned bigotry. Poor man, his story was as tragic as Hughie Gallacher’s.

  140. I’ve just got home after a few drinks.
    And I was planning to save this until after the January transfer window,
    but…

    There’s only one Derek Lambias,
    There’s only one Derek Lambias.
    One Derek Lambias,
    There’s only one Der-ek Lamb-i-as.

    Go on sons

  141. goodoldjimgold says:
    November 1, 2011 at 1:40 am

    “There’s only one Derek Lambias,
    There’s only one Derek Lambias.
    One Derek Lambias,
    There’s only one Der-ek Lamb-i-as.”

    Aye, you certainly have had a few Jim!!!! :lol:

  142. worky@139, you’re spot on there about Justin Fashanu, he was a class player at the time, and he just got hammered by the media, and opposing fans too unfortunately. Times were tough back then for certain players, once they were identified by the press then all hell was let loose.

    That’s one thing I absolutely do not miss for a second being abroad, the “cutting” media coverage and the twee under-handedness snigger snigger factor of certain parts of the UK press.

  143. goodoldjimgold@140…..

    Go on my son, I love to see a bloke having a good time, get mucked in ! Howay the lads !

  144. Munich Mag says:
    November 1, 2011 at 7:50 am

    “worky@139, you’re spot on there about Justin Fashanu, he was a class player at the time, and he just got hammered by the media, and opposing fans too unfortunately.”

    Aye Munich, the thing that really pushed him over the edge though was that he was falsely accused of sexually assaulting a teenager in the US, and he was pursued by the Police over here evn after the charges had been completely dropped. That was what led to him hanging himself in a grubby abndoned lock up in Shoreditch, but it was all a terrible mictake. He was completely absolved, but no one bothered to tell him that.