Newcastle United vs Hull City full match video, extended highlights and interviews

Posted on September 22nd, 2013 | 50 Comments |

Newcastle United vs Hull City full match video.

Match highlights.

Long “Match of the Day” highlights.

Alternative highlights.

Post match interviews.

Alan Pardew’s as sick as a parrot

Steve Bruce is over the moon.

A second post match interview with Steve Bruce, this time with Gary Lineker.

Alan Pardew: “We started really, really well but then we dropped down a gear after our goal and that caused us problems for the rest of the game. Third gear is not enough in this league against any side.

“You look for consistency and this team is a good team but we lack a bit of consistency and that is what gets you results.

“I have to pay tribute to Hull, they did a lot of things very well today. We had a chance to pinch a point but it just fell to Loic Remy a bit quick.

“We have to regroup and make sure we’re ready for the next one.”

Steve Bruce: “I’m absolutely delighted I have to say. I’ve been really happy with the way we’ve played all season.

“We created a lot of chances today and we thoroughly deserved our win.

“I’m a Geordie at the end of the day and I’ve always enjoyed coming back, apart from last time (when his Sunderland side lost 5-1 to the Magpies) but today was very satisfying.

“George Boyd did wonderfully well and Aluko’s shot went in off the post. I think he can light up this league.”

Score and goalscorers.

Newcastle United 2 (Remy 10, 44), Hull City 3 (Brady 26, Elmohamady 48, Aluko 76).

Teams and other match facts.

Newcastle United (4-3-3): Tim Krul (G); Mathieu Debuchy, Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa, Fabricio Coloccini (c), Davide Santon; Vurnon Anita, Moussa Sissoko, Yohan Cabaye (Yoan Gouffran 60); Hatem Ben Arfa, Papiss Cisse (Sylvain Marveaux 73), Loic Remy.

Subs: Rob Elliot (G), Paul Dummett, Mike Williamson, Cheick Tiote, Sylvain Marveaux, Sammy Ameobi, Yoan Gouffran.

Hull City (4-5-1): Allan McGregor (G); Ahmed Elmohamady, Curtis Davies (C), James Chester, Liam Rosenior; Sone Aluko, Tom Huddlestone, Jake Livermore, Stephen Quinn (George Boyd 64), Robbie Brady (David Meyler 73); Danny Graham (Yannick Sagbo 84).

Subs: Steve Harper (G), Alex Bruce, Abdoulaye Faye, David Meyler, George Boyd, Nick Proschwitz, Yannick Sagbo.

Yellow cards: Tom Huddlestone (89)

Red cards: None.

Referee: Martin Atkinson (Bradford).

Attendance: 51,523.

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  1. He always refers back to the 5th placed team but we have a better team now so it doe not make sense.

    Leeds next for a loss then next weekend.

  2. It seems that the only lesson we learned from yesterday is that we don’t seem to be able to learn from these lessons.
    For all the uforia and the if’s but’s and maybe’s of the start of this campeign, the signs are there that we are struggling the same as our near relegation season. I hope I’m wrong,but to advance in this league, your pre-requisite is consistancy and it’s just not happening.
    Shame, but we’re still also-rans at this moment and the good thing is there is room for improvement.
    Howaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay the Lads.

  3. Porciestreet; says:
    September 22, 2013 at 4:29 am

    “It seems that the only lesson we learned from yesterday is that we don’t seem to be able to learn from these lessons.”

    60 minutes. Cabaye came off and Pardew made a decision to switch the team back to 4-4-2 when he sent Gouffran on and we ran out of impetus and ideas in attack from that point, yet Hull were still getting at us at the other end. How many times has the silver fox done that before?

  4. Worky, As soon as the boards went up, And the changes were imminent, You had that sinking feeling.
    You just knew for a fact he was going to mess it up, I don’t know what the hell he was thinking of.
    Why did he put a forward on, When it was obvious we were seeing less of the ball.
    Personally i think he mixed up the order of his subs, Tiote should he been sent on first.
    When Tiote finally came on, That’s when we started to get a foothold in the game, And looked competitive again.

    It was like watching a mirror of last season, Pardew looks like he is terrified, And way out of his depth.
    This man has been really poor at his job for at least the last 18 months.
    Time is up for me, And we should get rid of him A.S.A.P, Before he does any lasting damage.
    We only just survived last season, And we will be in the same boat with him.
    He cannot live off the back of his 5th place finish anymore.

  5. Here we go again, with Pardew blaming anyone but himself.
    Point is our two goals were flukey, a poor shooting attempt by an out of form Cisse, ended up on the head of a quick reacting Remy.
    The other a rebound that again the quick reaction and awareness of Remy put us in the lead.
    But for all our possession in the first half, Hull always looked like a team that had a plan, whereas on our part there was obviously no plan.
    Our defense was poor, with both Santon and Debuchy playing more like wingers, in a side that has recently gone from one that would have put ten men behind the ball on taking the lead, to one that continued to press without a thought of defense.
    The second half was more of the same, with a well organized Hull side defending well and hitting us on the counterattack.
    It became obvious that once again Pardew was being out maneuvered in a tactical sense (situation normal) and for all his post game bluster and blame placing, the fact is it is his lack of direction that looses games.
    After all we have a core of decent players that are the envy of a lot of clubs, so why are we not successful.
    Get this useless clown outta here and spend some money to hire both a decent GM a director of football and a manager, who understand how to run a club.
    Else it will be more of the same.

  6. A word on Joe, I thought the guy was basically ok.
    As it turns out he’s just another sycophant who needs a job.
    Not only that, but one who is not smart enough to avoid antagonizing the Geordie faithful, in fact not much better than Llambias.
    As for his excuses in regard to not signing anyone, he does as he’s told and we all know Ashley is not about to pay the going rate.
    Yeah there were plenty of players we could have picked up, but if anyone hasn’t got it after six years of Ashleys parsimonious ways, they haven’t been paying attention.
    When we are in another relegation struggle around Christmas, it will be another repeat of last season, a desperate attempt to stay where the money is.
    I’m puzzled, does Ashley never learn from his mistakes, because he continues to repeat them each year.
    Hey I don’t understand what’s going on at this club and it’s obvious neither does Ashley or his cohorts.

  7. Chuck, It goes from one extreme to the other with Pardew.
    The whole thing is all over the place, With no real plan!
    Which in reality, Is the way the whole club is being run, From top to bottom.

  8. Looks like another inconsistent season with the goal of limping to a 17th-or-better finish. Can’t really count any potential points as on the board after this one. Consider that our last result depended on Agbonlahor missing a tap-in.

    The squad looked like it never played together (again). A misplaced pass is where the ball doesn’t reach its intended target. What I saw yesterday were guys passing into empty space where they thought someone would be and giving up possession. Repeatedly. Our fullbacks are really starting to irritate me. They can’t both constantly be way up the field all the time.

    I can’t imagine Ashley isn’t at least starting to consider AP’s position. How’s that home form again? Four points from nine including a goalless draw with WHU and a loss to Hull…

  9. Following Pardew’s rhetoric, I don’t know how Swansea managed an excellent away win to Valencia midweek, following a home draw against top of the league Liverpool, and come back today with another excellent away win in the Premiership. How do they do this with such a small squad? Does their manager know something that Pardew does not? Mike Ashley, are you following all of this?

  10. Paul, of course he does. Laudrup’s thinking is more along the lines of managers such as Bob Paisley, Brian Clough, Johan Cruyff, Jose Mourinho, Pep Guardiola and other managers who have actually won European trophies. Unlike Pardew, they actually know / knew that there is actually such a thing as a squad which is too big. It affects the psychological dynamics. As Laudrup put it himself:

    “I think two players for each position is more than enough, just about 22 players. That way you can still have some young players, someone with talent and potential. That means everyone feels important and the young players get the feeling that they are not so far away from playing.”

    And on the extra games he says:

    “It’s fantastic for the players and the club to have more European games to help them in the present and the future.”

    You need a smallish, very tight group who all feel important and who are all very familiar with each other’s game, who can instinctively cover for each other in play and have an “us against the world” mentality. When a squad gets too big the energy can become dissipated, they aren’t as close and it all breaks up a bit.

  11. This could be an era of change in the PL.
    With the possible demise of a M.U. without Ferguson at the helm.
    That and a resurgent pair of north London clubs, both Arsenal and Spurs challenging for the top spot.
    Appears the great one, is no longer so great, has he in fact lost his zest for the game, perhaps Abramovitch, would have been better to have retained Benitez.
    Following a not great start, Citeh appear to be on track, having just thrashed a poor derby rival M.U. that never looked as if they could win, or even get a draw.
    Everton remain the leagues only undefeated side and will no doubt give their crosstown rivals a run for their money.
    It appears there is a bit more parity among the top ten sides, with any side capable of loosing on any given day.
    Though already there are signs of which clubs may not survive, among them a recently promoted Palace, plus an ageing Fulham side and of course our neighbors S’Land, who i’m predicting will make the drop.
    It may be a different story come Christmas, with perhaps ourselves in trouble, why not if we continue with Pardew and Kinnear, not to mention the constantly interfering Ashley, described by KK as someone who knew nothing about football, but refuses to admit it, or even believe it, now that’s hubris.
    How long will it take before some kind of reality returns, before Ashley realizes he does in fact need help?

  12. So,disappointed again,not surprising it was the reason I enjoyed the days after the villa game,knowing the results dont allways make me happy,but when kebab went off the fighting spirit was taken away by a Parrott and his negative tactics.And for the record,Cisse is really pi&%ing me off,I would rather shola and that says it all…

  13. Chuck, like you I’m a Martinez fan. I saw someone comment the other day that he’s the manager Man Utd should have appointed, not Moyes. They may be right.

    That said, I’m all for mixing it up in the Premiership. It’s just that I fear we’ll be mixing it up once again down at the bottom end. I agree with Joe Hawkins – and have said so before – I think Pardew is paranoid. Someone needs to put him out of his agony. He is way out of his depth with NUFC.

    On which note, I think Agent Bruce did an excellent job against us yesterday. He knew Debuchy was our weak spot in defence and his tactical game plan outwitted us despite our taking the lead twice. I don’t know what others think but I like the guy and would not mind a genuine Geordie as our manager. Bruce has clearly done very well with Hull City, and as I recall, he was also very good with Wigan. It was with Sunderland that he came unstuck, but perhaps that why he has the label “Agent” Bruce?

  14. I think they are pulling the trigger a bit sharpish, He should be given a chance to turn it around.
    F**king Pardew is the one who should get sacked, The useless twat!

  15. Paul on the left coast.

    Careful what you say on here as it’s considered heresy for anyone to agree with me , especially on the subject of Martinez, or worse still Rodgers.
    Who are but two of the the guys I have touted to do well and well before they ended up at their present clubs.
    As for Clarke, I recommended him while he was a coach at West Ham, but i’m like the comedian Rodney Dangerfield, who gets no respect, but lets see at the end of the season who knows what they are talking about.

  16. Well looks like wor Paolo has just been fired, no messing with US owners, you either win or your outta here, same thing with Dalglish at L’Pool.
    Just how long will it take before Ashley figures out he’s go the leagues biggest looser in charge of his side.
    Go figure, we got an owner who makes a fortune in the retail business, but cant figure out a simplest of things,
    Like how come after spending millions on players, we still have poor results, it’s really a simple equation, duh!

  17. chuck says:
    September 23, 2013 at 2:12 am

    “Well looks like wor Paolo has just been fired, no messing with US owners, you either win or your outta here, same thing with Dalglish at L’Pool.”

    So that Glazer gadgie would have sacked Alex Ferguson if he’d been Manchester United owner back in the 80s, Chuck? He didn’t win a trophy there until his third season, and Dalglish won one in his first at Liverpool.

  18. Nobody really wanted to see paulo Mussolini dicanio get sacked until we stuffed the scum at the stadium of skanks,we all would have rather seen the parrot get plucked and stuffed,but thats football..

  19. Yeah glad to see the italian go !

    Back to real football though, I watched the highlights

    and gotto say Hull City looked pretty sharp on the break, and their one touch stuff up front was HOT . I thought we would stuff Hull but looks like they are a lot smarter team than first thought !

    Bit like Swansea ,nobody thought they were up to scratch but they have done darn sight better than originally thought !

    Steve Bruce is a bloater , and I think they gave too much space thinking they could walk it !

    Look at your opponents and take them more serious please Pardoo !

    HTFL …

  20. nzedtoonman says:
    September 23, 2013 at 10:32 am

    “Bit like Swansea ,nobody thought they were up to scratch”

    I did, nzed. They’ve been a well run club for a while but I started really following them when Michael Laudrup came as I really wanted him for Newcastle United. I’ve been a fan of his since the 80s / 90s. Cruyff’s Barcelona “Dream Team” with Laudrup, Guardiola etc was one of my favourite teams ever and it was also one of the greatest most innovative schools for future coaches under Cruyff. I’m watching another one of them, Oscar Garcia, at Brighton currently.

  21. @22 workyticket says:

    “I’m watching another one of them, Oscar Garcia, at Brighton currently.”

    That’s stalking worky. You have to be careful with that :)

  22. nzedtoonman says:
    September 23, 2013 at 10:32 am

    “Yeah glad to see the italian go !”

    Will you still be saying that if they bring in a really good manager, nzed? ;-)

  23. worky @ Paul-the esteemed gentlemen mentioned and yourselves are right about squad size BUT you do need balance: as stated, two players per position.

    Our squad is not too small really. The problem is that the second team MUST include unproven players like Haidara, Dummett & Bigirimana and aging/injury-prone players like Shola, S. Taylor, Jonas and Marveaux. The weakness of our bench at times costs us points and prevents us from advancing in the cups.

    worky @ 15-frankly I’m green with envy.

  24. tunyc says:
    September 23, 2013 at 3:06 pm

    “Our squad is not too small really. The problem is that the second team MUST include unproven players like Haidara, Dummett & Bigirimana and aging/injury-prone players like Shola, S. Taylor, Jonas and Marveaux. The weakness of our bench at times costs us points and prevents us from advancing in the cups.”

    tunyc, though it’s true we’re not Chelsea with players like Juan Mata and Demba Ba stewing on the bench, and players like Romelu Lukaku and Thibault Courtois out on loan, our reserves are still better than many teams who did far better than us in both the League and the cups last season so it’s all relative. Swansea might well have markedly improved their squad this season but as I’ve mentioned already, go and look at some of the reserve players they had to rely on last season when they came 9th and won a League Cup like Gary Monk and Itay Shechter, or Hughton’s Norwich before they went shopping in the transfer window etc… As I’ve also mentioned many times already, Routledge is still one of Swansea’s star players and he was only deemed a benchwarmer and shipped out of the club because he wasn’t good enough according to Pardew.

    If you really think we had such an awful bench, it will be a bit of a lesson. ;-)

  25. Just a thought, But are the most successful clubs historically, The ones who used the least players.
    I must be daft, But isn’t that the name of the game, You get together a side that is settled, And try to keep a winning side playing?
    It’s then up to the reserves to force their way in to contention?

  26. worky @ 27: again, I cede that. My points of complaint aren’t at all why we dropped three points at home against Hull. We certainly need a squad that’s coached to consistently play in a way that makes the most of their collective skill set and regularly producing scoring chances and defensive organization. Our weak bench does, however, hold us back in comparison with the upper-table sides with which we should have the ambition of competing. Not so long ago, we entertained similar ambition as Spurs and Everton. Compare their benches to ours. For now, even if we had a great bench it’s clear AP wouldn’t know what to do with it.

    With a deep bench specifically featuring more goals, Swansea could have reasonably entertained CL qualification ambitions last season.

  27. Missed the match as was away, at 1-0 I was thinking 2nd in the league, again at 2-1 and thinking no way we could lose – just shows you should never watch a match by text – seems only toon could f**k up what should be a comfortable win especially after leading twice
    Even though I predict us to finish anywhere from 12th to 16th I was hoping we would get 3 points out if Hull as next few games look like we’ll struggle to get owt from and will now def me near the bottom – not to worry, in Pards we trust ….. Oh hold on a minute….he’s that clueless idiot who has no plan b, coaching skills or tactical nous
    Did I say 16th, more line anywhere between 12th and 20th – depends who leaves in Jan

  28. Worky

    In your reply to my mentioning that US owners are quick to recognize a failure, both in De Canio and Dalglish.

    You brought up some ridicules reply mentioning some woulda, coulda, situation involving the Glazers and Fergie, guessing what might have happened.
    Which is really a stretch, even for you.

    Fact is it was too obvious to ignore in both cases.
    Which in turn raises the question of the role of a director of football.

    Watching Di Canio dismantle a team that had some decent players and replace them with both free agents and no name players for the most part, was to me a recipe for the disaster that followed.

    And had there been a knowledgeable DOF, it would never have been allowed.

    That doesn’t mean I believe that Joe Kinnear in any way fits that description.

    Joe needs a job, Apparently Ashley trusts him (possibly to a degree) and is relying on his expertise, which he explained to the world as having access to the top clubs and their personnel (if you are naïve enough to believe it)

    Anyway, I believe if this side, which IMO is decent enough to be top ten, with the right coaching, meaning we have to make changes in top management by hiring a real DOF and a manager who is astute in a tactical sense and who can get the best out of this side.

    As far as players and the bench, we are not far from being competitive, in a lot better position than this time last year.
    And as the majority of our side consists of French or Francophile players, why not a successful French coach.

    The alternative is more of the same, surely you don’t have to be from the US to recognize failure, when it’s obvious.

  29. In a way i’m sorry to see the demise of De Canio, though an admitted Fascist.
    He always entertained me, especially the incident when he pushed the Ref to the ground (gotta be the worst dive in history) plus he was a good player who gave it his all.
    As for guys like BSA and Shearer bemoaning his departure, wanting time to see he obviously was as crazy as some people thought and dooming the side to-wards relegation.
    And if I were Shearer I would say as little as possible concerning management, following his disastrous attempt.
    The job itself is a bit of a poison chalice and it won’t be easy to attract the people mentioned Poyette and De Matteo.
    Being the side like the horses to be competitive and could result in a year or so in the second tier and a rebuilding program.
    Be sorry to see them relegated as we all enjoy the rivalry.

  30. So it appears there ware certain rumbling and grumbling in the dressing room following Saturdays unexpected defeat to a well organized Hull side.
    Possibly what’s needed is a full scale revolt against this clown of a manager.
    Yes the guy who flippantly dismissed the loss as a failure of the side to play consistently, we took our foot off the gas, or some other cliché.
    Why is it most of us dread the second half of most games and when leading expect the worst.
    It’s because we have become inured to the fact we are due to be outplayed, by the opposition, who are about to make a tactical change and that Pardew has no answer to it.
    Typically Hull trailing, soaked up our attacks with a well organized defense, hitting us for two goals while countering.
    What was Pardews reaction ? nothing, had no clue !

  31. chuck says:
    September 23, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    “Worky

    In your reply to my mentioning that US owners are quick to recognize a failure, both in De Canio and Dalglish.

    You brought up some ridicules reply mentioning some woulda, coulda, situation involving the Glazers and Fergie, guessing what might have happened.
    Which is really a stretch, even for you.”

    And you wonder why you’re like Rodney Dangerfield, getting no respect? :-)

    I didn’t try to guess what might have happened, Chuckles, I simply asked you the question.

  32. tunyc says:
    September 23, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    “Our weak bench does, however, hold us back in comparison with the upper-table sides with which we should have the ambition of competing. Not so long ago, we entertained similar ambition as Spurs and Everton. Compare their benches to ours. For now, even if we had a great bench it’s clear AP wouldn’t know what to do with it.”

    Aye, but it holds all the other teams back as well. As I’ve mentioned before, there’s a top six that’s well ahead of the rest, but not Everton. We should be competing with them for the last European place. Everyone was thinking that Pardew could walk on water when we came fifth because the club has been so successful at lowering expectations, however, we were about two places higher than we should have been because two of the top six, Chelsea and Liverpool, took a wrong turning. If they’d have had normal seasons, we’d have been about where we should have been.

    As for Spurs, they’ve took a wrong turning themselves on the way up with Comolli and Ramos etc but they recovered without getting relegated. Like Ashley, Daniel Levy got his start in the rag trade, but he doesn’t try to run Spurs like “Mr.Byrite” and he didn’t try to rename White Hart Lane as the “Mr.Byrite Arena” :-)

  33. jack72 says:
    September 23, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    “its the front row of our bench that needs shipping out,coach’s,manager etc.”

    Jack! I wondered where you’d got to there, unless you’ve been changing identites again?

  34. The article more or less summed up Saturday’s debacle!
    The comment by Kevin Husband at the bottom of the page speaks volumes for me.
    If Pardew cannot prepare and motivate a team to beat a relegation tipped club, Roared on by 50,000 plus, Then where do you go from there?

    You can forgive the odd slip up, You only have to look at Arsenal’s game with Villa, In their first home game.
    The trouble is though, This is not a new phenomena under Pardew’s stewardship.
    The list of poor results stretches way back over a year now!
    All the fans get back in return is a lot of p*** poor excuses, As to why he has failed again.
    It is always someone else’s fault, And never his own.
    Fair enough, The players have to take some of the responsibility for the defeats.
    Nearly every game we play which ends badly, Involves Pardew’s inane meddling with the squad.
    He either throws the wrong players on, Takes off a player who is performing well, Puts a player on, When it’s far too late to make a difference.
    Basically i think his meddling costs us games, So what is the point of him being here?
    He might as well be working for the opposition, The amount of times he puts us out of a game!

    Then in the aftermath of another defeat, He is continually whinging on, And asking for fan patience, And judge me on the never never.
    I’m sick and tired of his cosying up, And his, I’m one of you, And i love this club, And i’m protecting it.
    We owe our fans, You are our 12th man, Get behind us, We need you etc…
    He even has their lass scaling the high roofs of Newcastle, Supposedly in the name of charity.
    I wouldn’t put it past him to send her up there to curry more favour, And keep him in his job!

    The whole thing is getting tiresome, And Ashley must see that things are not going to improve.
    We have a hard set of matches coming up, And i honestly cannot see him turning it around.
    The problem is, We were in a similar predicament last season, And he walked away from that, And we still lost all the games.
    Ashley is either as thick as a whale omelette, Or he still thinks the future Fergie, Will eventually come good!

  35. worky @ 37-nothing to disagree with there.

    There are several levels of problems at this club. The first that needs dealing with is, as Jack said, the manager and coaches. I’m getting ahead of myself as it won’t be perfectly clear what the squad lacks before we get a manager who can get the most out of them. I agree that NUFC are the biggest underachievers in the league. It really bothers me to see how Spurs have gone from also-rans to a member of the new top 6 that are ahead of everyone else. That club held no more potential-possibly less-than this one a decade ago.

  36. joe-make no mistake, “coaching” lost that match. It was clear that we were capable of out-passing and possessing them, Remy looked up for it and they constantly doubled HBA. But the squad also gave away possession and were out of position enough to lose a couple matches.

    As for the 4-4-2 thing, as worky has stated-AP actually makes it look worse than it is. It doesn’t have to be the most negative formation ever.

  37. tunyc

    It ain’t brain surgery why Spurs are successful.

    (1) David Levy
    (2) Franco Baldini
    (3) Andre Villas-Boas

    As opposed to

    (1) Mike Ashley
    (2) Joe Kinnear
    (3) Alan Pardew

    Sez it all!

  38. Until we (or if we ever) hire a decent Manager, we will continue to experience more of the same.
    There was at least a certain truth, that prior to last winters window, we lacked a bench.
    But now that we have one, (despite Ashleys pocketing the tv revenue for his season)what’s the excuse ?

    And as far as Pardew’s taking over the coaching role as promised, what we now see is a complete turnaround from a side that predominantly defended, to one that does nothing but attack.
    Hell I love to see us attacking, but what about also playing a bit of defense.

    It also appeared that Bruce understood that by taking HBA out of the game, he blunted our attack, that most things that happen go through HBA.
    Plus to play HBA as an outside player is a waste.

    Take an out of form Cisse out and play HBA behind Remy,
    with Marveaux and Gouffran wide and both Anita and Sissoko, playing in the middle, a basic 4-2-3-1
    Gives us a lot of pace up front, with Anita as playmaker and Sissoko both carrying the ball out and defending.
    But both Anita and Sissoko must cover for Debuchy and Santon, making their runs.
    Also both Marveaux and Gouffran, have to track back when necessary.

    These things have to be practiced on the training ground,
    set plays and their alternatives, to give some semblance of organization, plus players will recognize certain plays and be aware of what to expect.

    As things stand their appears to be no organization, other than, attack!

  39. Worky @ 36#

    Surely you jest by comparing a “whack job” DiCanio, to the great (whether you like him or not) Alex Ferguson.

  40. chuck says:
    September 24, 2013 at 2:58 pm

    “Worky @ 36#

    “Surely you jest by comparing a “whack job” DiCanio, to the great (whether you like him or not) Alex Ferguson.”

    Chuck, hindsight is a wonderful thing. As I’ve already mentioned, it took Ferguson three years to win an FA Cup. It’s true the Manchester United were in a bit of a state for a club of their prestige when he took over, but progress was slow initially and quite a few of the fans were calling for him to be sacked.

    I won’t pretend that I know a great deal about Di Canio as a coach, I haven’t studied him, hence I wouldn’t try to compare him.

  41. chuck says:
    September 24, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    “And as far as Pardew’s taking over the coaching role as promised, what we now see is a complete turnaround from a side that predominantly defended, to one that does nothing but attack.
    Hell I love to see us attacking, but what about also playing a bit of defense.”

    I’m not sure I’d put it like that, Chuck. I don’t usually go for individual players but I have made an exception once or twice recently for Debuchy. He was way off where he should have been for Hull’s first two goals. It was Benny for the third but we know that he’s no Franco Baresi. Interestingly though, he was slavishly getting back into shape rather than pressing the Hull player as he should have been. I say interesting because Sissoko was saying before the match that one thing Pardew insists on is that they should always get back into shape when they lose possession.

  42. Worky

    I’m sure like everyone else , you must have wondered about the way in which DeCanio, totally dismantled a decent side, that could have possibly used a bit of tweaking.
    I mean the radical manner in which he simply dismantled the side and replaced it, was unprecedented , at least in my memory.
    Plus the bleating of BSA, Shearer, Pardew and others, who thought he deserved more time is just bullshit.

  43. chuck says:
    September 24, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    “Worky

    “I’m sure like everyone else , you must have wondered about the way in which DeCanio, totally dismantled a decent side, that could have possibly used a bit of tweaking.
    I mean the radical manner in which he simply dismantled the side and replaced it, was unprecedented , at least in my memory.”

    Chuck, I know that when you bring in a huge group of new players all at once, it takes time for things to work out and so on… But as I mentioned, I’m no real expert on Di Canio and what he was trying to do. I like to do my homework before I blather on about stuff and I can’t study everyone! DiCanio hasn’t piqued my curiosity enough.

    Most people now know about the managers I was tipping before, Laudrup and Pochettino, now I’m interested in Laudrup’s old teammate, Oscar Garcia at Brighton. He did his playing under managers such as Johan Cruyff, Bobby Robson and Louis Van Gaal and did his coaching apprenticeship under Cruyff and Guardiola. I’d rather study him than DiCanio.

  44. Worky

    Yes we have no argument there, no doubt the side play the way they have been instructed, which puts us on the same page and god only knows what instructions he gives them.
    But one would think, that a professional player, would recognize and ignore instructions in certain recognizably dangerous situations.
    Certainly the goal from the free kick, was the result of
    no one covering the scorer, in fact giving him a free header, unforgivable in a set piece situation.
    The volley goal was unstoppable and well taken, but the other two were a result of faulty defending.

    A final word on Cisse, he is an opportunist, who when supplied will get his goals.
    At present no doubt his goal drought has affected his confidence and he is whacking everything in sight or attempting to.
    Take Remy’s first goal, the result of a poorly timed shot by Cisse, that just happened to land near Remy’s head.
    However his present lack of (luck, supply, form, confidence) has it’s effect as he does not contribute much in other ways.
    What to do, as Remy IMO with HBA behind, would IMO, be part of a more productive lineup.

  45. Worky

    Yeah, it’s interesting to see the way the PL has and continues to change, with the introduction of both players and managers, from outside the country, who in turn bring both tactical and technical changes, making the game not only a more entertaining game to watch, but maintaining for the most part, that degree of both pace and physicality, that gives the league it’s identity.
    No doubt it’s the most exciting and watchable version of football being played and has a major share of the worlds tv market.
    long may it continue.