Newcastle United vs Maritimo match highlights

Posted on November 23rd, 2012 | 98 Comments |

Highlights from this evening’s Europa League game between Newcastle United and C.S. Maritimo at St James’ Park.

As usual, I shall update them with some better ones once they are available, and possibly a video of the whole match too.

Score / Goalscorers.

Newcastle United 1 (Marveaux 23), C.S. Maritimo 1 (Fidelis 79).

Teams / Match facts.

Newcastle United (4-4-1-1): Tim Krul (G), Danny Simpson, Steven Taylor, Fabricio Coloccini (C), Davide Santon, Gael Bigirimana, Vurnon Anita, Sammy Ameobi (Mehdi Abeid 76), Hatem Ben Arfa (Demba Ba 40), Sylvain Marveaux, Papiss Cisse (Romain Amalfitano 51).

Subs: Rob Elliot, James Tavernier, Shane Ferguson, Mike Williamson, Mehdi Abeid, Romain Amalfitano, Demba Ba.

Maritimo (4-3-3): Romain Salin; Joao Diogo, Valentin Roberge, Marcio Rosario, Ruben Ferreira; Joao Luiz, Rafael Miranda (C), David Simao (Ruben Brigido 73), Danilo Dias, Adilson (Fidelis 60), Sami.

Substitutes: Ricardo, Luis Olim, Briguel, Rodrigo Antonio, Joao Guilherme, Ruben Brigido, Fidelis.

Yellow cards:

Red cards:

Referee: Danny Makkelie (Netherlands).

Attendance: 21,632.

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  1. Pardew lacks Foresight. This game was not critical, we have so many injuries and he starts HBA who now is injured. He then Subs him with Ba when we had the lead this after witnessing the dangers of playing our key players in a game that is by no means must win????

    What if Ba got injured we would have had two of our only performing players out in a game that is by no means crucial? HBA is likely out for the weekend.

    Horrible tactics and no foresight at all. In summary Useless!

  2. @Michael

    I did shudder when I saw Hatem was playing. He’s so crucial right now and starting him in this game was another ridiculous decision by Pardew.

    Fair enough have him on the bench in case he’s needed but risking him was another gamble that didn’t pay-off.

  3. Michael12, I agree that Pardew doesn’t have any foresight but I still think this was an important game to win even if we are through with a draw anyway. As worky pointed out, Bordeaux won tonight and we might have to beat a real top team like inter in the next round if we come second in this group. I think this one is Ashley’s fault because we need a deeper squad even though I usually don’t need much excuse to blame Pardew right now! :-) I hate to think what we’re going to be like in the prmiership without Ben Arfa after sitting through some of the performances WITH Ben Arfa providing the only bits of a threat and the only exciting football!

  4. @toontony

    It may be the case that Ashley didn’t release any funds to Pardew in the summer but Pardew is on record saying that he didn’t need more players and this group was good enough, going so far as to say good enough to get into the top four.

    I think people need to stop looking at Ashley and Pardew as separate entities… Pardew is his mouthpiece, his minister of propaganda if you will. Both as bad as each other imo.

  5. Awful just awful this season has been terrible so far! Guess we goin back to where we were one of the biggest clubs sitting in mid table to profit that fat c@nt ashleys pocket! Funny 8 years ago we was one of the biggest clubs in England now we have a southampton reject in charge playin hoofbaall every week let’s face it unless we get a billionaire owner who loves the club we going to have the .same shit until we get a maanger who actually makes his team play football! Sorry for the rant worky split up with missus weekend and the way we been playing just adds to my troubles f@ck liFe who wants to bomb the stadium of Shiite!

  7. maze202 says:
    November 23, 2012 at 9:53 am

    “Obertan is going to rock the league in HBA’s absence. Lol.”

    Doesn’t Obertan have a toe injury maze?

  8. i didn’t miss much then.

    really enjoyed watching celebrity get me oot of here last neet – especially when that talentless skinny little pr@ck – limahl – got hoofed off.

    it was nearly as good as watching that work-shy tory slapper – dorries – get her marching orders.

    roll on 9 o’clock.

  9. stewpot says:
    November 23, 2012 at 1:39 am

    “Pardew is on record saying that he didn’t need more players and this group was good enough, going so far as to say good enough to get into the top four.”

    Well he’s changed his tune now stewpot

    Pardew before the Maritimo game:

    “We are trying to find a way to win games with a lot of our big players missing. Whenever they are in the team they will be stronger – whether you play 4-3-3, 4-4-2, three at the back or whatever system you want to play.

    “Last year we did not have the problems with the injuries. We were playing all sorts of systems and winning. Nobody seemed to notice then. Of course, when you lose games it becomes noticeable and people think we should be doing something. Well of course, in hindsight that would make sense.

    On the Maritimo game:

    “We cannot focus on that. We do not disregard it, but we cannot factor it in. All we can do is win our next game. Then a lot of those comments could look silly.”

    On the Swansea game:

    “I thought we played quite well with the team we had. We were a little bit naïve once we conceded the first goal, but that was because we had a lot of inexperience on the pitch.

    “We started bombing forward again and trying to get the goal back quickly. Up until the opening goal we looked like the better side against a good team, by the way. We should have taken the lead. I think we would have won if we had scored the first goal although it is easy to say now.”

    On Benny:

    “If we had a fans vote he would probably be our player of the season so far. It might be because he has sat all of these games out. (The Euro games) That might be something to do with it.”

    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/11/22/stars-are-a-big-miss-admits-newcastle-united-boss-72703-32283074/

  10. Ranger in Squad for Southampton haha fooking laughable.

    Pardew commented in october Speaking at a recent fans’ dinner, Pardew had said that Ranger would not play under him again. He explained that the player had been removed from first team training and said other clubs had shown no interest in signing him.

    I hate you Pardew you are full of Sh@t.

  11. @worky

    of course he’s changed his tune mate, because the reality of the situation has set in.

    the managements lack of vision in the summer, coupled with pardew’s tactical ineptitude is there for all to see.

    you’d think the 2 time manager of the year could work his magic though wouldn’t you?

    @sirjason

    agreed, laughable and yes he is.

  12. danny b says:
    November 23, 2012 at 2:35 am

    dannyb, sorry that your comment was held up for so long. The site puts comments with “f” words, “c” words, “w” words and suchlike into the moderation queue. It helps to cut down on the nonsense from Mackems, Ashley fans, .co.uk readers etc…

  13. stewpot says:
    November 23, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    “you’d think the 2 time manager of the year could work his magic though wouldn’t you?”

    stewpot, as I’ve pointed out on these pages before, when managers who aren’t “the usual suspects” win one or both of the two manager of the season awards, it’s usually precipitates a headlong dive into disaster and/or obscurity. It’s a bit of a curse really.

    Joe Kinnear, Frank Clark, Peter Reid, Danny Wilson, Dave Jones, George Burley (he won both like Pardew), Steve Coppell (he won two LMA awards in a row) were some of them.

    Others such as ‘Arry might have another decent season then get sacked, other such as Roy Hodgson and David Moyes might go into a tailspin but pull out of it eventually. When Hodgson won it, he got the Liverpool job and started headbanging uncontrollably and even tried to scratch his off face off in the Liverpool dugout at one point before getting sacked. When Moyes won it, the season after he got knocked out of the Champions League immediately and plunged into a relegation battle the next season before eventually recovering to come 11th and so on.

    It’s worse than the curse of the monkey’s paw if your name isn’t “Ferguson,” “Mourinho” or “Wenger.” Poor Dave Jones even got wrongly accused of being a child abuser after he won it!

  14. The Independent gave the game rating a 3/10 entertainment rating. The quality of football we’re playing is getting very worrying…Pardew is supposed to let Carver be responsible for attacking play – is this correct?

  15. worky, like i said the other day, with mediums like the internet etc, all you have to do, is go back and pull apart, any previous statements, from the lowrachy, or their puppet.
    if pardiNOla was a cartoon character, he would have to be claggy doo.
    he talks constant brown stuff, his managerial style is also akin to a certain body excretion.

    i was busy last night, so i only caught some of the second half, and he nearly messed it up again, we were hanging on, towards the end of the game.
    we could have quite easily been going to bordeux, looking for a result, and that would have been no mean feat.

    ashley might as well uproot the club, and relocate to the republic of ireland, because this is association football, and not the G.A.A.
    the aerial bombardment anti football pardew is playing, is more in keeping with hurling or gaelic football.
    a completely poor excuse for a manager, who should have never been appointed, in the first instance.

    would some of the fans who think these clowns are doing a good job running the club, like to rethink their view?
    because all i see is ashley and llambias, winging it, and taking gambles.
    they thought they were the big lads, last season. when the gamble went their way, but look at them now.
    it’s an absolute disgrace, that these conmen are considered fit and proper, to run a football club.
    everything looks good on the surface, when you cutting back on most things, and selling players, to turn profit.
    the whole thing is built on sand, i’m not so much worried about this season, it is next season, when we might feel the full force, of these idiots meddling.

  16. Something has got to give here fellas. I finished work early, huffed and puffed to get to the match (no park and ride facilties with the toon even in the 21st century.) I couldn’t believe the apathy amongst fans. 21k? I know times are hard etc and it’s only maritimo but the place was soulless and disinterested. I thought premiership games had quietened recently but this was worse than a reserve game. Fans are just reacting to what they see on the pitch and what style of football they witness. Pardew is currently worse than allardyce and that’s saying something.
    A ridiculous thought, but imagine what Keegan could do with this current squad. We have a team of continentals being forced to play like Wimbledon.
    Our mid table mediocrity is papering over some very serious cracks behind the scenes.

  17. Sammy J says:
    November 23, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    “Pardew is supposed to let Carver be responsible for attacking play – is this correct?”

    That was a weird interview Sammy. I seem to recall something about Pardew working on the defence four days a week, then Carver working on the attack on the other day?

  18. @worky

    thanks for the recap of past recipients of “the kiss of death”…

    one worry is that a large proportion of the crowd seem to be giving Pards ‘the benefit of the doubt’ which allows Ashley to fiddle while Rome burns. There’s no apparent discontent so there’s no pressure to rectify the situation.

    another worry is that our quality players (purples is it?) will not put up with the circus for any longer than their agents will allow and a January exodus is a real possibility. We have 6 or 7 players who could be in top 4 teams. We know it and worryingly they know it too.

    and I don’t give a fug about “how high” we sell them or what a “tough negotiator Mike is” because money in the bank doesn’t win games of football.

  19. If there are not a lot of tightened sphincters, from Ashley to our coaches, then they probably dont understand the present situation.

    We have a small but decent squad, with too many youngsters, a tribute to Ashleys sell on policy.

    Last season was an abberation, due to the quality of the squad, a bit of luck and in spite of Pardew and his complete lack of any tactical nous.

    I’m questioning whether our coaches are competent or are directly instructed by Pardew in a tactical sense, could it be, the blind leading the blind.
    But on Carver, i find it hard to believe, being he worked well with SBR.
    In any case i was hartened to see an attempt to carry the ball upfield, though it became obvious this was something foreign to the side, from the number of times we lost possession.
    At least we were attempting to play a possession game and were dominating the play.
    Whereas we just came apart in the second half, reverting to type and against a side close to the bottom of a weaker league, that we should have beaten, and therefor
    cemented a place in the upcoming rounds, ffs.
    Look i’m not ignoring the fact we have injuries, but so does every other club and should be factored into the clubs policy when buying and selling.
    Our defence of Simpson, Taylor, Colo and Santon, is as decent as most, but thats it, the rest are not up to it and there’s no doubt we should have strengthened in the summer.
    Why did’nt we?
    It’s my belief out of the two windows, there are more bargains in the winter window, with lots of players contracts running out, where clubs are forced to sell or lose the player por nada.
    And we are all aware of Ashleys aversion to putting his hand in his pocket.
    That i believe is one of the problems at the club ?
    Talking bout the sell on policy, with not only wage caps, but age caps.
    Though apparently there was no problem, re-signing both Argentino’s who are getting close to their sell by date.
    Whats missing at NUFC is the fact whoever comes in as manager, has to deal with a couple of footballing genius’s who think they have discovered a system, that minimizes expenditure and maximises income.
    What we need are a GM with experience (no more refugees from some casino) and a knowledgeable manager, who will have at least a 50% say in matters, not a lot to ask.
    Because left to their own devices, the slow-ass learning curve will keep on moving at a snails pace.
    But few control freak’s ever listen to reason, they always know better.
    Ah well!

  20. NUFC have more in common with a farm than a football club. Let me explain, buy young livestock, keep the for a year then sell them at market for a profit, simple. If the team do well, fine, if they end up mid table or lower, also fine. Fat farmer Ash still makes a profit at market and that is all he cares about.

  21. wey yit anuva pish poor match at SJP…that 2nd half was terrible to say the least..best part ov the 2nd half was watching there subs go thru there zumba or just dance3 moves on the sideline..on my way there i thought’its freezing cold,raining these portu-geezers r not ganna enjoy there neet on tyneside’..by was i fkin wrong..it was us fkas that live up here that didnt enjoy it !!!

    am starting to ask mesell why i bovva gan to watch this garbage..thinking ov gan to watch blyth spartans for the next 8yr rather than put mesell thru all this bollox..quicker the 3arse holes fk off the better.DEPRESSING:-(

  22. nitoon, I’ve used the term “footballer farm” and before the crash diet “fatty’s footballer farm” in the past, so obviously I agree. It makes a change from “feeder club”. Another thing I’ve also banged on about in the past is Ashley’s real model for NUFC, which is another another black and white team from the North East (of Italy) who sold their number 9 for over £30 million, Udinese.

    If Wonga are taking the stadium naming rights next season, does this mean that all the Sports Direct signs will be coming down from the inside of the stadium as well as the outside?

  23. Did anyone note how fast Pardews exit was, following the final whistle, with no air pumps or back pats for the players.
    He must be under a great deal of pressure, certainly he’s not deaf and could hardly have missed the recent booing, from the home fans.
    I’m sure there’s pressure coming from the top also, in regard to our slowly slipping down the league table.
    It’s also probable that Ashleys biggest nightmare, a possible repeat of the relegation season, now that he knows we are not too big or too good to avoid the drop.
    To miss out on the 2013-14 season with it’s additional revenues must be foremost on his mind.
    Regardless of Pardews eight year deal, if Ashley finally reaches the understanding it could be his fault, does anyone believe the contract will mean anything?
    In to-days game, owners demand instant results, managers are fired and hired, like pickup labor.
    With De Mateo and Hughes gone, with probably more to follow and this is with around only a third of the season played.
    With every owner focused on the big approaching increases in revenue, and who can blame them?
    I believe we will (due to the fear factor) sign at least a couple of reinforcements, during the upcoming window, hell we need them
    But i believe our most serious need is a decent manager, perhaps not now, (if we bring in reinforcements) but a serious search should be undertaken to find the right
    man for the job.
    Hell why not fire this clown now and give the job to Carver until the seasons end, could he be any worse, doubt it.

  24. chuck says:
    November 23, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    “Hell why not fire this clown now and give the job to Carver until the seasons end, could he be any worse”

    Yes, he could be worse Chuck.

  26. stewpot says:
    November 23, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    “The trouble with firing Pardew is, would any credible coach/manager want to work with Ashley and Llameass?”

    Well when they had ‘Arry up there, he said he thought that something didn’t seem right and he walked. I think there’s quite a few other ex managers of the season who might take it though like Joe Kinnear, Peter Reid, Danny Wilson, Dave Jones, George Burley, Steve Coppell etc, though Reid might turn it down if he was worried about being called “mackem monkey heed” all the time. There’s also David O’Leary of course as he was fired after a few months at Al-Ahli.

  27. jack72 says:

    am starting to ask mesell why i bovva gan to watch this garbage..

    I know the feeling Jack. I know we’ve been through some shite down the years but it really hit me during that west ham game and I just feel like my season ticket was a waste of money now. I think the attendances will go down and last nights was definitely piss poor, the place looked almost empty from where I was!

    8 more years of this FFS :-(

  28. Can anyone on here tell me how a fat sports shop owner and his casino sidekick think they can somehow devise a whole new way of running a football club without spending any money whatsoever? The last time they thought they could do it a new way it ended up getting us relegated.

  29. Worky & Stewpot

    How could Carver possibly be any worse than what we have ?

    As for hiring even a credible, not an incredible manager, for the most part they are easily bought.
    And believe it, they would line up for the job.
    Who else would pay the kind of dosh EPL managers get, only the top European sides.
    Why else, would so many non British managers have jobs in the EPL.
    Don’t kid yourself about self respecting guys who wouldn’t take the job for ethical reasons.
    My friends ethics are the first thing to be discarded, when opposed by six to eight figure salaries, for people with very little to offer in the real world, apart from some knowledge of football.
    We can have our pick. if we offer the right amount.

  31. As for the managers you listed above, would you actually want any of them ?
    I’m sure we could find someone , both capable of moulding this side into a team that plays a modern game and can compete successfully with the top ranked sides.
    Surely that’s not impossible.
    Had Ashley hired Clarke as i advised him to ,years ago, we would have such a manager.
    I’m afraid it’s like you stated, Ashley just doesn’t listen to either of us.
    Whatever are we to do ?

  32. @chuck

    i’m not sure everyone has their price. ashley couldn’t persuade ‘arry to take the job.

    there’s no way ashley is going to pay top dollar for world class coach otherwise have would have done it… his record of appointments is pathetic, i can’t see him changing his approach anytime soon.

    i think the names that worky mentioned were done so with his tongue in his cheek.

    no, i wouldn’t want any of them.

  33. You’re fat Amy Winehouse, a fat Amy Winehouse, a fat Amy Winehouse, just a fat Amy Winehouse…

    Who am I talking about?

    Worky. There is somefhing wrong with your site. It freezes my computer and wont load. I am sending this from my phone.

  34. Chuck, since Clarke took over from Hughton at Birmingham, they’ve sunk towards the Championship relegation places. So, if Ashley had taken your advice, it would probably have been another foolish decision. Just because he and Carver happened to be born in a certain region, that gives them no advantage whatsoever when it comes to being football managers.

    Also, all that stuff about big wages in the Premiership doesn’t really apply at Newcastle as they pay very low wages. Pardew may get a bit more than Hughton did, but he still gets paid more like a Championship manager than a Premiership one, unless it’s one of the smaller teams from the Championship who’ve been promoted like Reading.

  35. GS says:
    November 23, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    “Worky. There is somefhing wrong with your site. It freezes my computer and wont load. I am sending this from my phone.”

    Yes, I have a clue what it might be. Have you tried Firefox?

  36. toontony@26
    totally agree there tony mate..less n less fans r not turning up,but can u blame them.we havnt played a game this season were we havnt played well for the full 90mins..yes we’ve had some half decent 45mins but unfortunatly a match is 90mins long..just a shame pardnoclue has 4gotten that,the prick is a sunday pub team manager n far from premiership coach…fkin puppet

  37. GS, I’ve fixed it now. I was probably that I had to do a code bodge to get those highlights up yesterday evening. However, I think that the problem may have been with your shitty Internet Explorer browser. It was fine in FF.

  38. Alan Pardew’s Fist Pump says:
    November 23, 2012 at 7:53 pm (Edit)

    “Can anyone on here tell me how a fat sports shop owner and his casino sidekick think they can somehow devise a whole new way of running a football club?”

    Nice username APFP, but they haven’t devised anything. They’re just copying other models but as you may know already, Llambias just lies constantly about everything.

  39. Worky
    Idoubt if it’s Internet explorer, as i have had trouble with both it and firefox ?

    Stewpot
    Tongue in cheek, actually i think he quite liked Kinnear and had nothing against Jones or possibly Burley.
    As for Arry turning down the job, he had a job at the time and a home, three hundred miles away.
    Try offering it to him to-day ?
    You would’nt want any of them, me neither, not even Arry.

    Worky
    You know which Clarke i’m talking about,they manage neighboring sides, the Scots Clarke, though the Geordie Clarke would be a consideration also and wouldn’t be surprised if he inherited the job at somefuture date.
    Would probably make points for Ashley.

  41. Worky: are you sure that Chuckles is on about the Clarke of the Lee variety and not of the Steve variety? Anyway, if Lee is struggling it might be showing how good Hughton did at Brum under the most difficult of circumstances.

  42. @gs

    got a mate who’s a blues supporter and they don’t like clark at all. not only has he taken them backwards in terms of league position but his media-persona is abysmal.

    he was also pretty unpopular at huddersfield despite going on season-long unbeaten run and unearthing jordan rhodes.

    lot of time for clarkie from his playing days but he’s got a lot to prove on the managerial front.

  43. Worky, it wasn’t internet explorer. I tried Chrome as well and it is now in a frozen loop. I will have to uninstall and reinstall it.

    No problem though, just letting you know there was something strange going on.

  44. GS says:
    November 23, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    “Worky, it wasn’t internet explorer. I tried Chrome as well and it is now in a frozen loop. I will have to uninstall and reinstall it.”

    So you’ve just wasted even more of my time writing shit which isn’t true?

  45. What are you f@cking talking about? I am making a simple statement, Worky. I don’t know where the f#ck you are coming from.

  46. GS says:
    November 23, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    “What are you f@cking talking about?”

    GS I’m sorry I wrote that but you said that there was something wrong with this site, now it something else. I’ve just had so much of my time wasted today, not just by that, and I was starting to get a bit sick of it. Sorry.

  47. Worky @45: that is OK, I wasn’t complaining.

    I still think you write the best NUFC blog.

    We all have bad days now and again.

  48. No, I’m sorry GS. It was far more the other people than it was that. BTW, is it you Operating System if you’re having problems on different browsers? I never install new Operating Systems until they’ve been up and running a bit and had bug fixed etc. I may be wrong in your case but it’s usually been been a good thing to follow in the past.

  49. Here, this might cheer you up. I really don’t understand how I am the only one to find Chuck a grumpy old goat. He does make a lot of sense, but says everything in his grumpy old goat way, which makes me always want to take the opposite view. He hates me, which makes me laugh.

    Even if I bring up a subject and he answers, he never references me :) he is such a funny old goat.

    Praps Worky, one day you will graduate to being invisible to Chuck as well. I wear it as a badge of honour.

  51. GS says:
    November 24, 2012 at 12:27 am

    “Here, this might cheer you up. I really don’t understand how I am the only one to find Chuck a grumpy old goat.”

    I think that everyone thinks he’s a grumpy old goat GS. Then again, there are a few grumpy old goats on here! :-)

  52. I am trying to think of something positive to say about NUFC. All I can think of is that I didn’t watch the Maratimo match and by all accounts that must be a good thing.

    I haven’t even watched Worky’s highlights.

    Injury crisis, schmisis. Who could possibly have thought that some of our “purples” would get injured or suspended at the same time, never happened before has it :) :)

    Shortsighted or careless Dekka?

    I am sort of smiling about this situation because this is Newcastle United and this is what I expect. Please don’t get relegated though, we don’t get Championship football on the Telly over here in the USA.

  53. Soh ! i’m an old goat is it ?
    Non PC guy, age doessn’t necessarily mean you automatically become some kind of a moron at a certain stage in life.
    Certainly reading some of the comments on this and other blogs, may in fact suggest the contrary.
    What i do in general is either criticise or compliment players, tactics or lack of them, and in general the overall running of the club.
    Not only that, but bring about certain questions as to the future of how football both in the EPL and elswhere may evolve, and how the relationship between tv revenue and other circumstance may affect the future of the game.
    If that defines me as an old fogey, c’est la vie !

  54. I never said fogey Chuck, I said old goat, there is a big difference. I find you very entertaining, you know in a “there is one thing worse than being talked about and that is not being talked about” sort of way.

    And Chuckles, you are quite often right (but don’t tell any body I said that).

  55. Oh, and Chuck you haven’t wimped out because we are not winning or Worky hurt your feelings. And you did get banned from .co.uk. I didn’t have the patience to get banned on there, 5 minutes of Troy and Batty was enough.

  57. GS says:
    November 24, 2012 at 6:57 am

    “And you did get banned from .co.uk.”

    GS, I know he’s about as popular as Jimmy Savile in a Sunderland strip over there from the blocked comments I’ve seen for him on here, but what was the old goat banned for?

  58. Something has got to give here fellas. I finished work early, huffed and puffed to get to the match (no park and ride facilties with the toon even in the 21st century.) I couldn’t believe the apathy amongst fans. 21k? I know times are hard etc and it’s only maritimo but the place was soulless and disinterested. I thought premiership games had quietened recently but this was worse than a reserve game. Fans are just reacting to what they see on the pitch and what style of football they witness. Pardew is currently worse than allardyce and that’s saying something.
    A ridiculous thought, but imagine what Keegan could do with this current squad. We have a team of continentals being forced to play like Wimbledon.
    Our mid table mediocrity is papering over some very serious cracks behind the scenes.

  60. @clint

    agree with everything you say. unfortunately the mackem’s continued downward sprial is buying pardew even more breathing space.

  61. stewpot says:
    November 24, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    @clint

    “the mackem’s continued downward sprial is buying pardew even more breathing space.”

    Stewpot, but as you may know the Mackems are a game behind us. If they’d have won that postponed Reading game they’d be ahead of us in 12th and we’d be 13th.

  63. It still makes me feel better than Sunderland will always be worse than us. We are going through a big bad patch, whereas they are just rubbish.

  64. I was banned from Toonsy’s blog for criticisism i believe, though he let me continue under the the nom de plume “chuckles”, knowing well who i was and even relented, admitting he was wrong in banning me.

    Now i have never been banned from this blog and can be relentless in criticising Worky, though he has yet to admitt to ever being wrong.

  65. chuck says:
    November 24, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    “I was banned from Toonsy’s blog for criticisism i believe, though he let me continue under the the nom de plume “chuckles”, knowing well who i was and even relented, admitting he was wrong in banning me.

    Now i have never been banned from this blog and can be relentless in criticising Worky, though he has yet to admitt to ever being wrong.”

    Toonsy banned you from here once Chuck. He obviously doesn’t like the cut of your Jib, though I’d take that a good sign if I were you ;-).

    Relentless? Shooting your arguments down is like shooting fish in a barrel Chuck. Sometimes I don’t even bother because it’s just too easy. When HAVE I ever been wrong then?

  67. What team do we put out tomorrow? I am losing track of these injuries and does Anita play midfield, right back or left back? Does Pardew even know? I think that says a lot about his managerial “skills”, that even he doesn’t know where to play his players.

    Ba, Cisse? Both? Take one off at half time because Alan changed his bloody mind again. Isn’t this what managers are supposed to do, make decisions and be decisive. I doubt that Bill Shankly’s or Brian Clough’s players would be confused about their role in the team.

    And why didn’t we re-sign Bassong, we knew he was a good player whatever ‘Arry thought? Newcastle are a very strange club. Just when you think they are getting things right they prove you wrong.

  68. Worky @65: you only need 5 bullets to shoot those 5 fish, because he always makes the same points :) But he has proven to be a better judge of Pardew than I was.

    Watch, we will hammer Soton 25-nil tomorrow just to confuse me even more.

  69. GS says:
    November 24, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    “Worky @65: you only need 5 bullets to shoot those 5 fish, because he always makes the same points :) But he has proven to be a better judge of Pardew than I was.”

    I used to think he was like “Waldorf” from the Muppets, but now I think he’s like Abe Simpson because he’ll make a point (usually wrong unless he’s copying my position) then forget he’s made it so he’ll go and make it all over again!

    JOKING CHUCK :-)

  70. i wish Worky would bar u chuck,u talk utter bollox 99.9% ov the time.u also give other users on this blog grief if they dont agree wiv you.i have lost count ov the amount ov times users on here have pointed out your facts n thoughts on certain players/managers r way off the mark..everybody is wrong and you r always right(in your heed anyway)…u go on as if your opinion is the only one which is right and everyone else is clueless..try spending some ov ya hard earned cash on a visit ower here to watch NUFC instead ov slating the team from what you’ve watched on tv..ya nowt but an armchair fan wiv far to much to say..and you have the nerve to call us n tell us to grow up for calling the mackems unwashed neighbours or scousers bin dippers!!.. get a grip pal n stick to following rounders

  72. Forget about the Mackems, they were never going anywhere anyway, though they have two pretty good wingers in McClean and Johnson.
    What we are beginning to see is the fact M. O’N.is not as good a manager as he was given credit for.
    Seemed as if Arry’s magic was working early in the game against Man.U. untill the home side turned on the afterburners.
    Never mind, they have a number of good players and Arry will earn a million if he keeps them up, thats on top of his what is it 2 or 3 mill. wages.
    I see where the grey gadgie is feeling the heat a bit, who’s he gonna blame next.
    Taking credit for S’amptons promotion, but Adkins is not buying it, sez he owes nowt to him.
    Guys apt to say anything but the truth.
    Ah well ! a loss to S’ampton, will only tighten the noose.

  74. Stewpot @73: That was quite funny.

    However, I never want to see us get beat. I don’t care if Hitler was the owner and Worky’s mate Goebels was the manager I still want us to win

  75. Jack 72

    I guess it’s possible i may have annoyed you, but it’s nice to know you read my rants, having listed most.
    Glad you agree i’m always right and i sometimes get outta my chair and attend the occasional game.
    Mostly when we had a team, but not recently and apparently i’m not the only one.
    Attendances are dropping, fans are booing and streaming out early, soh!
    And oh! i was wondering what the 72 indicated, birthyear or IQ ?

  76. Chuck @75: I am really surprised you don’t give me any stick. It would be easy as I do tend to go off topic quite a bit. I am guessing that I am so far beneath pond scum that you can’t even be bothered :)

    As I have said before, I find you quite entertaining in a Bernard Manning type of way (and I don’t mean mean or racist, just the grumpy old goat sort of way).

  77. jack72 says:
    November 24, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    “try spending some ov ya hard earned cash on a visit ower here to watch NUFC”

    Jack, to be fair, Chuck’s the only one here who’s seen Albert Shepherd and Hughie Gallacher in their prime, and stood in the mystery Edwardian stand at SJP. :-)

  78. And here’s off topic: I watched the whole “Homeland” series in the past 2 days.

    That meant that I had to watch the opening credits 12 times – showing women in burkas. This women in burkas thing made me shudder. How can we be in the 21st century when some people are stuck in the 12th century, and a really bad 12th century at that?

  79. GS says:
    November 24, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    “That meant that I had to watch the opening credits 12 times – showing women in burkas. This women in burkas thing made me shudder. How can we be in the 21st century when some people are stuck in the 12th century, and a really bad 12th century at that?”

    GS, if stupid old Hollywood makes you shudder, what would the real thing make you do?

    Saira Shah – Beneath the veil

  82. Worky @79: I am blocked from viewing that, it says it is not available in my country. Big Brother, eh.

    Have you written your preview yet? I am seriously struggling to figure out what team Pardew puts out. The defense would seem to pick itself, unless Pardiola decides to go for the reverse Christmas tree formation and play 1 at the back and 7 up front.

  84. GS
    Hmmm! I was curious and you are right, i get the message “the uploader has made this video unavailable in your country” whatever that means, no other explaination.

  86. The people of the book, (all three) have a lot to answer for, the most dogmatic, schismatic, trilogy of monotheist nonsense, that resulted in bloodshed and strife, though advocating, all thats considered good.
    Bit like those commenting on this blog actually.

  88. chuck says:
    November 24, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    “The people of the book, (all three) have a lot to answer for”

    The Taliban has nothing whatsoever to do with Islam, Chuck, it’s more like the Arabian paganism that existed before Islam.

  89. Our form over our last six Premiership games would only win us 31-32 points over a whole season, which is two or three less than we had when we were relegated (34).

  90. Pardew said Obertan “has a toe”, so I am wondering if he will be available. I thought he might have 10 of them or even 12 like some people are born with. Or some are born with webbed feet. I think he might play better with webbed feet.

    Couldn’t play any worse AndyMac, could he?

  91. Worky
    Just reviewed the video of pre US invaded Afghanistan, tell me do you consider that (Islam as practiced by the Taliban) some kind of pre islamist Afghani practices.
    Or just an extreme form of present day Islam?

  92. chuck says:
    November 24, 2012 at 10:16 pm

    “Worky
    Just reviewed the video of pre US invaded Afghanistan, tell me do you consider that (Islam as practiced by the Taliban) some kind of pre islamist Afghani practices.
    Or just an extreme form of present day Islam?”

    As I suggested above, I would liken it to the Arabian paganism which existed in Muhammad’s time, which he was opposed to. He was also persecuted by his own tribe for being opposed to such barbarism. What is now known as “Wahhabism” is that original barbaric Paganism, masquerading under the banner of Islam. The biggest problem with religions is that their original message gradually become corrubted through Hadiths, Nicene Creeds and so on.

    Saira Shah’s father, Idries Shah, was a very famous Sufi writer who gave a completely different picture of the Islamic faith. He is a symbol of what Afghanistan used to be.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idries_Shah

  93. Actuall no not quite that old, to have seen Hughie, but recall the ditty,
    Wee hughie Gallagher, the wee scotch lad
    Best center forward Newcastle ever had
    If he doesn’t score a goal, we’ll kick him in the hole
    and send him back to Scotland in the mornin.

    Bit ungratefull i always thought.

    Albert Stubbins
    To Vic Keebles era, saw most and thought Bobby Mitchell who played for eleven years, was an outstanding player and a great entertainer.
    Why i used to stand on the 12″square fence at the back of the east terraces, close to the gallowgate end, gave me the best view of Bobby in action.
    Though it could get pretty exposed on cold winter days, as most kids wore short trousers, year round.

  94. The Sufis, yes saw them dancing in the railroad station in Instanbul, ( the so called Whirling Dervishes) one hand pointing to heaven and one to earth as the whirled to the music and chants of the accompanyment.
    Apparently achieving a trancelike state.
    And yes i’m familiar with the life of Muhammad, who incorporated some of the pagan rituals into the Islamic faith, tha Kaaba itself was a pre islamic pagan shrine.
    I fid it hard to understand those who read The Satanic Verses, but with no real knowledge of Islam, undersood what they were reading.
    But of course, Christianity used the same tactic, incorporating pagan gods as saints, plus certain Celtic dieties were female, which was converted to an unusual adulation to Mary, the mother of god.
    Look i’m not getting into the trinity, so dont ask!

  97. Chuck, do you have the Beatles’ “Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band” and John Lennon’s “Walls and Bridges?”

    If you do, you’ll know that the former has Albert Stubbins on the cover somewhere, and the latter’s front cover is Lennon’s childhood drawing of Jackie Milburn and George Robledo playing in the 1952 Cup Final.

    http://www.angelfire.com/md2/wrgaphardt/images/Beatles/sgtpepperskey.jpg

    http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/02/ciu/de/27/2226c27a02a0143db27b7110.L.jpg

  98. GS says:
    November 24, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    “Worky: the worm has turned.”

    Yes GS, I’ve noticed that Ed has been writing fewer hagiographies of “Mike,” “Derek” and “Alan” recently.