Sunderland vs Newcastle United full match video, extended highlights and interviews.

Posted on October 22nd, 2012 | 136 Comments |

Sunderland v Newcastle United full match video.

Sunderland vs Newcastle United full match video.

Extended MotD highlights.

Post match interviews.

Alan Pardew post match interview.

Martin O’Neill post match interview.

Team / Match facts.

Score / Goalscorers: Sunderland AFC 1 (Demba Ba OG, 87), Newcastle United 1 (Yohan Cabaye 3).

Sunderland (4-4-1-1): Simon Mignolet; Craig Gardner, John O’Shea (c), Carlos Cuellar, Danny Rose; Adam Johnson, Jack Colback, Sebastian Larsson, James McClean; Stephane Sessegnon (Louis Saha 63) Steven Fletcher.

Subs: Kieren Westwood, Phil Bardsley, Matt Kilgallon, David Meyler, David Vaughan, Frazier Campbell, Louis Saha.

Newcastle United (4-4-2): Tim Krul (G), Danny Simpson, Mike Williamson, Fabricio Coloccini (C, Steven Taylor 80), Davide Santon, Hatem Ben Arfa (Gabriel Obertan 85), Yohan Cabaye, Cheick Tiote, Jonas Gutierrez, Shola Ameobi (James Perch 39), Demba Ba.

Substitutes: Steve Harper (G), Shane Ferguson, James Perch, Steven Taylor, Vurnon Anita, Gabriel Obertan, Papiss Cisse.

Yellow cards: Fabricio Coloccini (67), Mike Williamson (86), Yohan Cabaye (88)

Red cards: Cheick Tiote (25).

Referee: Martin Atkinson.

Attendance: 47,456.

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  1. I’m still not seeing this red card. I’ve seen it 5 times now and it’s a yellow all day. One foot off the ground doesn’t make it a dangerous tackle. You can show me all the angles you like and I still don’t see a violent conduct tackle I see a mis-timed tackle yes. But certainly not a red card offence. What was worse ninja kick on shola or tiote on dumbo? And the ninja didnt even get a yellow.
    I think the ref was on a mission. The smile on his face after he gave the red said it all.

    Personally I think lamearse need to over rule pards on this and stick in a appeal.

    I certainly don’t agree with shearer or McCarthy

    McCarthy is bound to defend the scum, he was one. Dirty unemployed moron that he is.

    One game I’m looking forward to this year with a passion playing the scum at home. Can’t wait.

  2. Stephen C: I agree with you. Every marginal call went the way of the Mackems.

    If it had been any other game or team, people would have said the sending off spoiled the game because NUFC looked like they could dominate.

    However, because it is us, the draw is down to Pardew’s bad tactics and not playing 4-3-3 even though that is impossible with 10 men :)

  3. Stephen C

    Get over it Stephen, even Pardew did’nt challenge it.
    Look the guy has to get his act to-gether, face it how many games does he miss through senseless challenges.
    For instance what difference would it have made if he lost the ball along the side line, far from goal ?
    Tiote has to learn how and when to lay the body on and when to redirect a player instead of landing him in the stands with every tackle.
    He also has to look around for the pass, when regaining posession, thats why he is still playing for us instead of a top four side, they see his flaws.

  4. GS looks like you were listening to Pardews soundbites following the game.
    Where he claimed we were dominating play and could have gone on to win easy.
    Did you actually watch those minutes prior to the red card and agree ?
    It was an ugly game from the start and continued that way throughout.
    Yeah games are usually screwed due to early red cards, with one side pressing the other defending, with nine men behind the ball.
    There are those who believe we defended well, then again the hapless attacks by Sunderland exagerated our defensive ability.
    Simply an awfull game.
    If i were the owners of either club, i would sit these so called managers down and make them watch a game of modern football, Barca vs Whoever, even the Wigan Swansea game.
    Neither one has a clue and yesterdays game certainly reflected that.

  5. Chuck: when a team goes down to 10 men that early it usually makes for a very uneven game. Remember last year, we battered the mackems after the sending off. We did much better yesterday.

    I actually haven’t read or listened to any of Pardew’s comments (or anybody other pundits for that matter).

    I think I am simply stating the obvious that a sending off always changes tactics and that the game usually suffers as a result (unless it is that Holland – Portugal game at the world cup that I watched at my brother’s bar in Arnhem)

  6. I don’t think I would have given a red but it’s close enough to be considered the ref’s subjective judgment call. An appeal would be rejected. What Tiote was thinking when he went in for that is anyone’s guess.

    That said, Atkinson had a horrible day, one of the worst performances by an official I’ve seen in a while. As a matter of consistency, he has to dismiss Larsson for the kick on Shola if he sends of Tiote. It’s hard to see it as anything other than him deciding based on who commits the foul.

    The league need to assign high-profile refs to this match. That’s three in a row where the official seemed completely overwhelmed by the occasion.

  7. One of the most wonderful things happened today. James Blunt said he had no plans to write any more songs and in effect was quitting music. Oh joy of joys!

  8. GS @ 7: Word.

    Oh, and look there: I used the 3rd person plural form of “to need” with a collective noun, “the league.” I’ve officially been spending too much time watching/listening to/reading English media…

  9. Stephen C says:
    October 22, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    “I’m still not seeing this red card.”

    It isn’t like the days of Billy Bremner anymore. You can get a red card for what Tiote did. Tunyc had a point about Larsson and Ameobi too though.

    tunyc says:
    October 22, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    “The league need to assign high-profile refs to this match. That’s three in a row where the official seemed completely overwhelmed by the occasion.”

    Aye tunyc, but Martin Atkinson IS a fairly high profile ref, and so’s Howard Webb.

    GS says:
    October 22, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    “One of the most wonderful things happened today. James Blunt said he had no plans to write any more songs and in effect was quitting music. Oh joy of joys!”

    GS, He’s also been replaced by Tory minister Jeremy Hunt in the Cockney rhyming slang lexicon.

  10. There arn’t any Zebras in Madagascar, not even in the 3rd version. Then again, there aren’t any sloths in the ice age as far as I know.

  11. F@ck: a friend of mine just died and now I have to look after her dog for a week while her family look for a new home for him. I tried to tell her that a Cocker Spaniel wouldn’t fit into a the modern way of dog walking, and the formation of two legs up front and two at the back just wouldn’t cut it.

  12. Worky: what I said about the other dog and my friend dying is true. The rest, as you know, is a homage to Chuckerihno in “the disco casino”.

  14. So, I remember listening to The Clash and London Calling when I was 16 and nothing changes. Cameron, Romney, money, war.

    Is the light at the end of the tunnel a train coming towards you?

    No, we can change it.

  15. I am almost beyond finding out how stupid the world can be… My nephew had a crap tattoo put on his leg by a friend of his. Me mam says it looks like crap. You would have thought that the fact that his Dad had his girlfriend’s name on his arm and had to cover it up with a tribal type tat would have warned him off.

    I give in.

  17. Very sorry to hear about your friend GS.

    On the rest, sadly, I fear that things are worse for many now than they were when you were sixteen.

    And on that cheerful note…

  18. Worky @17: Thanks Worky, these brain tumors will kill you! I will make sure the dog is good though.

  19. But, back to my nephew’s tattoo. Me mam said it is really crap. It doesn’t even have magpies or sea horses or anything !!! Idiot.

  22. GS says:
    October 23, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    “Worky, when I was 16 there was Thatcher. I moved to Munich when I was 18 to get away from her.”

    GS, Both Thatcher, and Reagan on your side of the pond are still here, but we are over thirty years down the road now. Their influence was so pervasive that they have infected all sides of politics since.

  23. GS says:
    October 23, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    “So, why did God kill my friend Mary and give my nephew a tattoo?”

    Those two things really don’t belong in the same sentence GS. It’s an absurd juxtaposition.

  24. Football though Worky? Christmas tree formations. Pardwho. Apostrophes. That’s what matters. New age managers who are 10th and 11th or whatever.

    A

  25. What we need is another Bob Paisley, wouldn’t that be f@cking great though. The passion and calm of that great man. Or THE Brian Clough.

    Can we not just put it all together for once?

  26. GS says:
    October 23, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    “Can we not just put it all together for once?”

    GS,

    Johan Cruijff – En Un Momento Dado.

    The story of how a big North East club with many passionate fans but who hadn’t won the league in over a decade became the best club in the world.

  27. I’d be interested to hear Atkinson explain why Tiote’s was a red and Larsson’s wasn’t. With Tiote it seems that intention didn’t matter but Larsson gets off because it was reckless, not malicious. Translation: I sent off Tiote because he’s Tiote.

    chuck-you’re right about Cheick needing to learn to do his job done with a lighter touch. He also needs to learn not to dribble in defensive areas. But you’re just wrong about Tiote’s passing. He’s arguably the best passer in the team.

    GS-very sorry to hear about your friend. You have my condolences.

    Other than that, I frankly have no idea what y’all are on about…

  28. Tunyc @27: it was a The Clash lyric and the only person I could ever guess that would know a lyric buried in a reply in a blog would be Worky.

  30. Yo t’quierro y finito
    Yo te querda oh ma corazón
    Spanish weeks in my disco casino
    The freedom fighters died upon the hill

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-qcy0-7ngw

    Kind of links nicely with that film I posted about Barcelona, and their fierce rivalry with the Francoist Royal Madrid, something which goes to the days revolutionary Catalonia’s struggle against the Franco’s fascists and their subsequent oppression. Kind of makes our Mackem thing look rather pathetic in comparison.

  31. Worky man, you are only supposed to listen to x-factor and American Idol music.

    It is such a sad state of affairs that that shite is what is called music now. Apart from Katy Perry, she’s got nice t@ts.

    I mentioned The Clash to a friend the other day and he didn’t even know who they were.

  32. Worky: different friend. I just can’t believe that people don’t know who David Gilmore, Lou Reed and Marc Bolan are.

  34. GS, from the ‘fifties until about the end of the last century there were revolutions in popular music and culture which used to come every 10-12 years. That has stopped happening now, music has become anodyne and commoditized.

  35. I bought the 2011 and 2012 grammy things/CDs to see what I was missing. I missed nowt.

    “Now then, now then, boys and girls!” or just 10 year old girls, now then…

  36. Whats this ?
    Sorry folks for interupting your, hero worshiping/lesson in Spanish politics, come dead person dog watching, with a punk music sweetener.
    But i thought i was getting a football blog.

    As i see we are taking a musical direction, was recently listening to a Gallician piper, accompanied by a latin rythm section, reminded me of Sonny Rawlins rendition of Swing Low Sweet Chariot, accompanied by Rufus Harley on bagpipes, at Montreux.
    Just a more mellow sound, its amazing how the various instruments and different musical cultures can blend into some of the most incredible sounds.
    Erm ! am i boring you , “should i stay or should i go”

  37. Stuff like the Savile imbroglio happened alot back in those days and it doesn’t shock me that much TBH. However, what gets me is stuff like this:

    “* Edwina Currie appointed Savile to run a taskforce in charge of Broadmoor in the 1980s, where he is accused of sexually assaulting patients;

    * the taskforce he presided over was given temporary powers to oversee the running of the hospital following a series of industrial disputes – despite the fact Savile, a disc jockey and television presenter, had no professional qualifications;

    * a friend of Savile’s from his hometown in Leeds was then given the most senior job at Broadmoor; ”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9623089/Jimmy-Savile-Questions-for-Edwina-Currie-and-the-BBC.html

    It has also been cliamed by ex-collegue, Paul Gambaccini, that he was a necrophilac:

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/jimmy-savile-was-a-necrophiliac-who-had-sex-with-underage-subnormals-says-former-bbc-colleague-8222948.html

    The rather belated hysteria over it reminds me of the brilliant ‘nineties show by Chris Morris satirizing media hysteria, “Brass Eye,” especially the “Paedogeddon” episode. Somehow, the whole series managed to be absolutely hilarious yet chilling and horrifying all at the same time.

    http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=/watch%3Fv%3DN-lroPLKs58

  38. Workey
    On the subject of Catalonia (why dont you just advise your readers to get a copy of Orwells (“Homage to Catalonia”)he explains it in a sense of the reality of the times.

    Which has little but bad memories, to relate to present Catalonian situation.

    Could we draw similarities betwee Spains provincial problems, (the breakup of Spain)and that of the UK.

    With Scotland as the UK’s equivelent of Catalonia, Norn Iron as their Basque situation (both having engaged in guerilla type military actions)

    With Wales (who unlike Scotland were given no choice other than to become a member of the UK) not unsimilar to the Gallician/Asturian,provinces (all three having their own Celtic languages and no particular affection for their dominant national majorities).

  39. Been in Portugal for last 2 weeks and the only English Speaking channel on the TV we had was CNN. I think the C stands for Cr*p, what an abysmall load of sh!te they were showing, repeating the same mundane stuff over and over. We didn’t go to watch TV but some occasional news would have been appreciated.

    Couldn’t even get to see the game as something I ate gave me an intimate relationship with the Loo for several days.

    Just a few quick comments on some of the blog stuff.

    I was one of the critics on the sale of Routledge, don’t understand why so few of us didn’t rate him.

    Tiote seems to be in a lot of refs books to be jumped on at the first chance in a game and good as he might be, is becoming a bit of a liability.

    And, Chuck if you like some way out Bagpipe music take a look at Corvus Coranus, they are brilliant and with a touch of culture to boot.

  40. Afraid this blog is taking some unusual turns, from dog watching to pedophelia, music to politics,to muckraking.
    Are we all that bored with Ashley and Pardew bashing or should the blog it’s self morph into something other than it’s original intent.
    Whatever that was, seem to recall it had something to do with NUFC, ergo the name NUFC Blog.org.

  41. Grumpy
    It’s not that i particularly enjoy Pipe music that much, it’s was more of a surprise to listen how well most instruments can blend together.
    One does’nt hear the pipes played much in either a jazz setting or even a latin based rythm section.
    And to listen to how well they combine is both surprising and interesting.
    But yea i ‘m curious and will check out your reccomendation Corvus Coranus, sounds very Latin, no not spanish, Roman.

  42. Chuck: it is me. Having dogs and friends die on me makes me a bit sad.

    BUT, “trenches full of poets” is a great line in any song or language.

    As I said before, we could-a twa@tted them mackems if it wasn’t for the Tw@t of a Ref.

  45. GS says:
    October 23, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    “And Chuck: That’s Montgomery Clift honey!”

    “The right profile” from “Sandinista.” Now STFU about the Clash!

  46. Chuck I think they are German and their work is based on the Medieval stories of Carmina Burana. Google them they’ll blow your mind.

  47. Worky, it is London Calling and I will shut up.

    But, nobody was talking about football. So, I can talk about music and tattoos and dogs and death :)

  48. chuck says:
    October 23, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    “Workey
    On the subject of Catalonia (why dont you just advise your readers to get a copy of Orwells (“Homage to Catalonia”)he explains it in a sense of the reality of the times…”

    Chuck, I’m not running a book club site ;-)

    GS was moaning like a Geordie about why we can’t just get it together for once and win a few a few trophies, citing examples such as Bob Paisley and Brian Clough. My original point, or rather, the link to an excellent film on YouTube, was actually about football and vaguely relevant. It was about the renaissance of another big North Eastern club who hadn’t won a League title for over a decade, FC Barcelona, and also how the oppression of the Franco years after that civil war fed into the “El Clasico” matches between Barcelona and Real Madrid, and how (yes I’m going to mention him again) Johan Cruyff helped to galvanise a whole region and get their pride back.

    Long after the Civil War, in the seventies, Johan Cruyff named his son “Jordi” when he was a Barcelona player, but it was still outlawed in Catalonia because it was a Catalan name and he was told at first that he couldn’t. Cruyff and his missus didn’t really know this, they just liked the name but when he found out, Cruyff the ever obstinate Dutchman still insisted that was the name. This was at the same time as he and Rinus Michels beat the team of Franco 5-0 in Cruyff’s first el Clasico, also going on to beat them for their first league title for 14 years.

    That was real, unlike this phoney Ashley and Llambias shit we’re fed constantly.

  50. Grumpy Old-Toon says:
    October 23, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    “I was one of the critics on the sale of Routledge, don’t understand why so few of us didn’t rate him.”

    I was just writing about him, Grumpy. I remember Pardew making an absolute prick of himself, humiliating Routledge in public for no reason whatsoever by saying that he wasn’t good enough for Newcastle United and that he was bringing in a better player. That player eventually turned out to be Gabriel Obertan.

    Not counting his few months in the Championship with QPR, Routledge has played a total of 2298 minutes in 39 games since signing for Swansea, scoring 3 goals. However, more importantly, he has provided no fewer than 15 assists in those games, with 6 of them coming this season already. In the same period, Obertan has played a total of 2112 minutes in 35 games, scoring 1 goal with 5 assists. On Routledge’s 6 in his first 9 games this term, that’s the same amount as Benny got in the whole of last season.

  52. So, back to football. I don’t understand the thought process where we have to get rid of one player to buy another. Football is not like other businesses where, say, your vice president of finance leaves and you have to replace them like for like.

    So why the hell couldn’t we have Obertan and Routledge? One of them might get knacked and it would have been nice to have a backup.

    Hopefully, I wont bore anybody, but the same thing is happening with Simpson. Why don’t we just keep him, even if they have plans for a “better” player to come in.

  53. If we are going to do anything this season it has to start now. We have a few easy games coming up (on paper), including Liverpool.

  54. Workie
    Watched the whole thing, bit repetitious, bunch of middle aged men infatuated to an abnormal degree, by a football player.
    And one who certainly does’nt lack an ego.

    Actually the Catalans i find are just a bit too much into themselves, with a decided superiority complex.

    Much more intresting for me was the area during the pre Spanish civil war period and during it.

    Precisely the Anarcho- Syndicalist movement, which had established a firm presence in Industrial Northern Spain.
    Especially in the city of Barcelona and surrounding areas.

    Who when Franco’s rebellious army invaded, took over the running of most of those industries and who not only ran them well, but managed in most cases to increase production.
    Of course, both the church and aristocracy and factory owners, appealed to the facist governments of Italy and Germany, who supplied Franco with arms,men and an air corps.
    While the duly elected Government, were ignored by the so called democracies of France and GB.
    Who were not about to allow any system that did’nt respect private property, to succeed and declared themselves neutral.
    Had they actually ment it (neutrality) they should have set a naval blockade, preventing others from supplying the Franco army.
    In which case they only put off the inevitable , which came shortly after the Civil War ended in 1938, WW 2.

    Loosing the war brought an end to the experiment of what can only be described as a non governing form of Anarcho- Syndicalism.
    Some may think of this as just another failed attempt at a utopian plan that would never work.
    But there are those who see the disparity between the super rich,(ever increasing) and the rest.
    And in this somewhat gradually de-industrialising world with it’s robot operated factories, what will become of the increasing number of unemployed drones.
    And oh! by the way Chomsky has declared himself an Anarcho-Syndicalist, surprised ?

  55. GS
    Simpson is out of contract at the end of the season, in which case not accepting the (lowball) contract on offer, the owner is playing a dumbass brinkmanship game, without any hammer.
    And he (Simpson)like both scouses will probably get a better deal elsewhere.
    Probably it’s about setting standards, for wages.
    Yeah ! unfortunately it’s a slow learning curve these guys are on.

  56. chuck says:
    October 24, 2012 at 5:44 am

    “And oh! by the way Chomsky has declared himself an Anarcho-Syndicalist, surprised ?”

    Where Chuck? I’ve heard him describe himself as a “Libertarian Socialist,” and also a “fellow traveller” with Anarcho Syndicalists, but I’ve never heard, or read him say “I am an Anarcho Syndicalist.”

  58. chuck says:
    October 24, 2012 at 5:44 am

    “Workie
    Watched the whole thing, bit repetitious, bunch of middle aged men infatuated to an abnormal degree, by a football player.
    And one who certainly does’nt lack an ego.”

    Chuck, of course they’re infatuated with him after what he did for FC Barcelona, he’s “el Salvador.” He rebuilt the whole club into the FC Barcelona you see today, the style of football, the Academy (based on Ajax’s). Geordies even used to be infatuated with Keegan, and what did he do in comparison?

    It would be hard not to have an ego if you were Johan Cruyff.

  59. Sorry my mistake It’s Corvus Corax. I just looked for Corvus Coranus and couldn’t find anything so I checked my CD’s and “Duhh” I had it wrong.

  60. Grumpy Old-Toon says:
    October 24, 2012 at 12:54 pm

    “Nobody checking out Corvus Coranus, you are missing a musical treat, Honestly!!”

    I will Grumpy.

  63. Sports Direct shares are now trading at around the £4 mark. At one stage around the end of 2008 – beginning of 2009 they were around 30p.

    At the last estimate, Mike Ashley’s net worth was estimated to be around £1.7 billion, but but it must be well over £2 billion by now.

  65. Corvus Corax
    Yeah right, a mixture of Braveheart and pre Roman, German paganism, with a bit of Hitlers torchlit gatherings and some storm unt drang.
    Ermm ! no thanks, i’ll stick with Rufus Harley and the Gallician piper who played with the latin rythm section.
    This is not music, it’s just a bunch of Germans projecting some fcucked up self image of who they are.
    A bit like wagners Ring Cycle, without the artistry.
    Hitler wouldda loved it.

  67. Worky
    Anarcho-syndicalista eh!
    As i mentioned earlier, an interesting political theory, that apart from that short period prior to and during the Spanish Civil War, was never allowed to flourish.
    I’m not saying the movement no longer exists, it in fact does but not in it’s ideal form.
    Unfortunately both Marxism and Capitalism, saw to that.

  68. Of course we in the US had our own form of Anarcho-Syndicalism, the Wobblies of the late nineteenth century until well into the twentieth.
    Yes the IWW was a leader in organizing the labor movement not only in the US but throughout the world.
    And many of the volunteers in the Abraham Lincoln brigade, which served in the international brigade of the Spanish republican government armed forces, were wobblies.
    An interesting side note,following Franco’s death and the election of the first Socialist government in Spain since 1938.
    The surviving members of the Abraham Lincoln brigade, were awarded transportation to Spain, where they were met by an enormous reception and in a formal seremony thanked and awarded Spanish nationality.

  69. Newcastle United, as another big north eastern club ?
    Whoa Worky, we really cant compare ourselves to Barcelona.
    And for that matter Brian Cloughs sides or Aberdeen and Celtic or any other club who has had cuccess in the past.
    To-days top sides are all well funded or owned by free spending billionaires.
    None of the above mentioned British sides have any chance of winning the European Championship to-day.
    It’s all about money and those willing to spend in order to achieve success, will dominate the sport, that simple.
    Where do you think that leaves NUFC ?

  70. Nice, I love the random sh!te that comes up on this blog: Chuck’s Rufus Harley reference may well take the cake. Not a fan of Rufus’s piping (he was self taught, and it shows)… but I admire everything else about the guy.

  73. chuck says:
    October 24, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    “Worky

    See Wkipedia: Anarcho-Syndicalists-notable theorists.”

    Yes, someone might say so in Wikipedia, and he may be a big fan of Rocker but I’ve never acutually heard him say “I am an Anarcho Syndicalist”.

    chuck says:
    October 24, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    “I’m not saying the movement no longer exists”

    I know it exists Chuck.

    chuck says:
    October 24, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    “Of course we in the US had our own form of Anarcho-Syndicalism, the Wobblies of the late nineteenth century until well into the twentieth.”

    The IWW don’t define themselves as an exclusively Anarcho Syndicalist organisation Chuck, it’s a union which leans havily towards the the left in general, but that encommpasses Commies, Anarchists and so on. They don’t organise the labour movement of the world either, you could probably fit most of the UK members in a bus.

    chuck says:
    October 24, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    “Newcastle United, as another big north eastern club ?
    Whoa Worky, we really cant compare ourselves to Barcelona.
    And for that matter Brian Cloughs sides or Aberdeen and Celtic or any other club who has had cuccess in the past.
    To-days top sides are all well funded or owned by free spending billionaires.”

    No, of course we can’t compare ourselves to Barcelona.

    However, Porto are no bigger than Newcastle United, and a publically traded group of companies, not a billionaire’s plaything. Unlike Newcastle United though, they won their second European Cup / Champions League trophy as recently as 2004. They also won won the UEFA Cup / Europa League for the second time in 2011. Atletico Madrid, they’re no bigger or richer than Newcastle United either, yet they have won two Europa Leagues, a UEFA Super Cup and a Spanish Cup in the last three seasons and the list goes on…

    Clubs such as Barcelona and Real Madrid are owned by many thousands of “socios,” Bayern Munich are a joint stock company owned mostly by fans (as are all German clubs), with a small percentage owned by Adidas and Audi, so that’s another one out of the way.

  74. Tripp says:
    October 24, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    “Chuck’s Rufus Harley reference may well take the cake.”

    Tripp, Chuck takes the cake full stop!

    Sorry, “Chuck takes the cake, period” in that strange language you have over there.

  75. On the subject of pipes, a friend of a friend of mine who lives in the highlands was the origintor of “Bagpipe Techno.”

    I’m a Northumbrian pipes man myself, the Scottish ones too brash and annoying.

  76. Since we are talking about Spain…

    My Uncle died 2 weeks ago and left me and my 2 brothers a little bit of money. I convinced my mother that we should all have a holiday together on the money to honour my Uncle and not just waste it on gas and electric.

    I suggested The Costa Brava. What I got back was “Spain, it is awful – Let’s go to to Thailand”.

    So Worky, use that giant brain of yours and internet skills to help me out here. They are tainted by visits to the Costa del Sol, but I am telling them that Spain is wonderful.

    My thing is that they don’t have to spend a thousand pounds on a flight to Thailand when Spain is on their doorstep.

    I have been to Spain like 6 or 7 times and love it. It must be that my family have only really seen Britain in Spain – chip shops, gold earrings and tattoos.

  79. Have to say I’m with jack. Interesting as all this is (well, some of it) it would be nice to read about/comment on some contemporary football…

  80. workyticket says:

    “Sports Direct shares are now trading at around the £4 mark. At one stage around the end of 2008 – beginning of 2009 they were around 30p”.

    At the last estimate, Mike Ashley’s net worth was estimated to be around £1.7 billion, but it must be well over £2 billion by now”

    and the rest WT. The shares have risen over 1300% and he owns over 70% of the company ? In March it was valued at £1.6bn now its over £2.5bn so £2bn is a conservative estimate.

    Then of course there’s the tie up with Wonga, presumably there’s money in it for him as well ?

    “I’d find Wonga an extremely distasteful sponsor for NU if I was a supporter. Newcastle is a predominantly working class city and Wonga’s bread and butter is exploitation of the financially vulnerable which is usually those from working class areas”

    Spot the irony here ?

  81. GS says:
    October 24, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    “I suggested The Costa Brava. What I got back was “Spain, it is awful – Let’s go to to Thailand”.

    So Worky, use that giant brain of yours and internet skills to help me out here. They are tainted by visits to the Costa del Sol, but I am telling them that Spain is wonderful.”

    GS, firstly, sorry to hear about your uncle.

    Have you explained to them them that the Costa del Sol isn’t really Spain, but is a kind of Concentration Camp to keep British tourists contained? I used to go to Valencia because I had a couple of girlfriends over there, but most of my expeditions have been to places like India and the South East Asian peninsula.

    Didn’t like Thailand at all, preferred Cambodia but they’re f*cking that up now. or they’ve f*cked my favourite part of Phnom Penh (Boeung Kak lake) anyway. Having written that I haven’t travelled for a fair while now, not since I went off the rails and turned into a recluse.

  82. jack72 says:
    October 24, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    “no Club Brugge article Worky mate?

    does anyone know if we can pay on the door 2mrw night?”

    Yes jack, there will be an article first thing tomorrow.

    I do believe I read something about walk up tickets, but i’d check it to make absolutely sure if I were you.

    Brugge have got a few goalscorers, not least their recently signed Columbian hitman, Carlos Bacca. He’s as lethal as the Medellin cartel.

  84. From .com

    Brugge (h)

    Thursday evening sees United play the third game of their Europa League Group stage campaign, when they face Belgian side Club Brugge at SJP.

    Kick-off is at 8.05pm and tickets remain on sale priced at £15 adults, £10 students and £5 for OAPs and U18s (rising to £20 / £15 / £10 in bar areas).

    Cash turnstiles will be open from 6.30pm at:

    Sir John Hall West Corner Level 2: 10/11/12
    Sir John Hall East Corner: 33/34/37/38
    Gallowgate Upper: 66/67
    Gallowgate West Corner: 71/72/73

    Note that for those paying at the turnstiles on the night there are just two prices: £15 adults and £5 OAPs and U18s (the student rate is only for advance sales).

    Advance sale collections can be made from 3.30pm at the windows on the back of the Gallowgate Upper (above Shearer’s Bar). Note that all tickets are paper ones – there have been no uploads to season ticket cards.

  85. I see the Mancs have managed to attract a tad more than £5m a year plus extras ? Not a sign of a dodgy loan shark anywhere ?

  87. Worky… does “full stop” come from the days of the telegram by any chance. You very occasionally hear that expression over here.

    It’s funny, Wor Lass was in China (Chiner as you say it over there) and one of her tour guides was remarking about the differences in American and British English.

  88. cheers Andymac,i knew you would come up wiv the info..nice1.

    look foward to the article Worky.

  89. Worky\
    On the question of whether Chomsky considers himself an Anarcho- Syndicalist?
    Are you from Missouri and is your name Thomas ?

    As for the IWW, they were possibly as late as the thirties a pretty big organisation, with hundreds of thousands belonging to the movement.
    Which was fairly similarly structured to the Anarcho-Syndicalists.
    However it was more or less destroyed as an effective movement during the 50’s red scare.
    With the US congress passing laws that effected most unions, weeding out anyone with a leftist bent.
    It was especially tough on Longshoremen and Seamen, who were a bit more aware than most.
    Unfortunately the fifties were effectively the end of the IWW, though they persist as a rather small organization in various countries to this day.

    As for comparing clubs, my point was that sides such as Aberdeen, Celtic, The Nottingham Forests and until recently even Man Citeh, had little chance of winning the European Championship.
    And yes just because they side may be owned by the residents of the city, does’nt mean they cant compete with the billionaires.
    Barcelona, RM, Byern Munich, none lack for the funds needed to buy a winning team.
    When it was a game of counting bums in seats it was much fairer, but with the growth of Tv. revenues, it’s virtually impossible for teams such as those in the SPL to even think of competing.
    And unless in our case Ashley gets an offer he cant refuse, we are designed to be also rans, through lack of investment.

    Workey in reference to your statement you prefer the Northumberland pipes, being the scotish bagpipes are too brash and annoying.
    They are supposed to be dummy they are war pipes made to be heard over the noise of battle.
    Now if you want to listen to a real sweet sound, perhaps you should check out the Uilliann pipes.

    Tripp
    I dont get what you mean by “chuck takes the cake” whats it about Rufus Harley you find strange ?
    You too Workie ?

    GS
    Paradors, we don need no stinkin Paradors, there are plenty of reasonable priced hotels throughout Spain.
    Hell the north coast from the Basco corner of Biscay, through Cantabria Asturias and into Gallicia, will provide you with some of the best fish and shellfish meals, not to mention the cheeses and lamb dishes, plus
    a stunning coastline.
    Of course the cities of Andalucia are stunning, as long as you stay away from the tourista areas of the Costa plenty( del Sol)
    Though the country side is apart from the mountainous areas one great plain of olive trees and elsewhere wheatfields.
    Whether you drive travel by bus or train, the cost is minimal compared to the uk.

    Hey ! outta here Amstel time in the city!

  90. Thanks Andymac and Chuck. We will eventually succeed in turning Worky’s site into a travel-political Blog with a few mentions of NUFC :)

  91. Chuck: it will take a bit of persuading to get my family to go to Spain because as you, Worky and Andymac said, I think they only know the shit bits from they typical British package holiday.

    But, the point would be to do it in style and not on the cheap. Hence the paradors. It is simple logic as well, if you don’t have to spend a fortune getting to Thailand you can instead spend that money on paradors, great food, and plenty of wine and beer.

    I would rather stay in a castle parador for $100 extra and have that memory than a basic hotel and save the money.

    Andymac, I stayed in the Granada and Cordoba paradors. Spectacular.

  92. Tripp says:
    October 24, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    “Worky… does “full stop” come from the days of the telegram by any chance. You very occasionally hear that expression over here.”

    Divven’t knaa for sure Tripp, but I did read once that the first known use of “full stop” was in Shakespeare’s “The Merchant of Venice,” which would rule out the telegram obviously. Your “period” goes back further than that, to Ancient Greek punctuation king, Aristophanes, and his “periodos.”

  93. You know, what people don’t f@cking realise? There is a new world order and it is called Corporatism. Over here they revile socialism and think that capitalism is their best friend. When, in fact, capitalism only works for a select few.

    So you end up with corporatism and religion.

  95. GS, what I don’t get is that you wrote the other day that you left here to get away from Mrs.T, and yet you’ve ended up over there in the most unequal country on earth. WTF’s that about?

  96. Worky: it was about love. I loved my ex-wife and her mother was sick so I moved here. I make stuff up when it is convenient :)

  97. And Worky: what is this “three strikes and you are out” baseball metephor for benefit claims? Alright, we know you are adopting American practices of “welfare reform” but do most Brits even watch any baseball?

  98. GS says:
    October 25, 2012 at 2:20 am

    “And Worky: what is this “three strikes and you are out” baseball metephor for benefit claims?”

    But that’s one of the most disatrous policies ever when applied to law and order over there. It has half of the US in prison so it’s hardly a deterrent, and it makes the US legal system look idiotic too.

  100. Benefit fraud costs an estimated £1.2 billion per year in the UK, but the figure for unpaid tax is estimated to be something like £35 billion.

  101. The US incarcerates more people than all the other developed nations combined, far more than China even though that’s a totalitarian state which has four times the population of the US.

  102. Worky: don’t get stuck in the recluse mode. I am bored with so may people here, but it can change.

    There is a funny thing when you can have a half intersting intellectual challenge on a football blog and not much else in everyday life?

    I talk to people about art and politics and words and stuff. But most have nothing to say back.

  105. Worky @103: it is not difficult to figure out. It is racist, from the slave trade and the continued segregation in US cities. It is not difficult to figure out.

  106. GS says:
    October 25, 2012 at 3:17 am

    “Worky @103: it is not difficult to figure out. It is racist, from the slave trade and the continued segregation in US cities. It is not difficult to figure out.”

    GS, aye, that’s a point with the proportions of people who are incarcerated for certain offences, but basically, the sheer numbers are the “three strikes and you’re out” thing. It’s just so ludicrous. People are locked up for life for stealing things which are worth cents and so on.

  108. Workie
    That may change anytime soon (the incarceration problem)
    Appears many states are now aware of the fact grass is recocnised as less harmfull than alcohol.
    In fact having certain positive pharmacutical uses.
    There are referendas in many states concerning it’s legality.
    Of course it will hopefully reduce the price and make it readily available to the general public, States will be able to tax it and garner an income, plus, let those presently incarcerated on drug charges go free and bobs your uncle.
    It’s taken some time.
    Almost as long as it’s taken Ashley to wise up about running a football club, but definately a positive step.
    Wish i could say the same for NUFC.

  110. :) as I said it is turning into a politics blog. I don’t even read the other ones because they repeat the same stuff over and over (more than Chuck).

    Worky, make friends again with Clint. He is fun and interesting.

  111. Workie
    I hope you understand the three strikes and you are out law, only pertains to the State of California.
    It’s by no means a federal law, or in effect in any other state.
    But like the Rockefeller law (possession of a certain amount of cocaine) in the State of New York, can be rescinded and has been.
    Look i agree with you on the incarceration problem, a result of the implementation of some crazy laws in various states.
    Usually pandering to an ignorant voting public.
    But you must understand it’s also a business, catered to by those who can make a profit from jails in general.
    Unbelievable ?
    Not really , this is the land of opportunity, for those wanting to make a buck from the misfortune of others.
    And dont be smug about it, it’s on it’s way towards you guys.
    Not only are they (The Tories)talking about privatising jails (or Goals) in the UK, they are also planning for private police forces.
    Good luck on that.
    And by the way, the abnormal amount of incarcerated individuals, somewhere in the region of 1.5 million prisoners were incarcerated in both State and federal prisons for Drug related crimes.

  114. Workie
    Stephen Fry is not exactly someone who i would either watch or listen to, why ?
    Because the guy is a jerk, but if he’s your advocate, so be it.

  116. chuck says:
    October 25, 2012 at 4:29 am

    “Because the guy is a jerk,”

    Why do you think that Stephen Fry is a jerk Chuck? He was very nice indeed when I met him. Anyway, that was merely my inspirition to look at further material on the subject.

    Is Professor D’Amico a “jerk” too?

  117. Worky: Sigmund, Emma, Clement and Lucien mean nothing to me. I think that Freudian psycho…logy (…therapy) is the biggest pile of shite I have ever heard of in my life and that Lucien paints crap pictures.

  118. Workey
    have to admitt i was unaware of the subsequent amount of states added to the list, it being so radical when inorgerated.
    Though it now has been rescinded, obviously it did’nt work for California and probably wont work for those who have subsiquently introduced it.
    I wont use your usual way out, by accusing the UK of similar actions against its citizens (Subjects) as it’s an embarrassment to most thinking US citizens.
    And when one considers, possession of a certain(small) amount of grass can be punished for almost a lifetime one begins to wonder what kind of crazy people make the laws in certain states.

    And you certainly found that further material in the ridiculess group who’s attemts at humor on the subject of incarceration,was rather pathetic, dont you think.

  121. Chucky: I hope that wasn’t a reference to me @118? I sort of hold back when you say “rediculess” because we can all make mistakes.

  122. chuck says:
    October 25, 2012 at 5:05 am

    “Who’s Prof. D’amico ?”

    The link on comment 101 Chuck, though I actually spent hours going through the same kind of source materials. Neither he nor Stephen Fry’s team of research Trolls are wrong.

  124. Chuck: I did figure out the trip though. I just have to get them to do it. It will be great, so much fresh seafood, castles, amazing scenery, history, walking trails, topless beaches – the lot.

  126. Oh! 101 #
    I really did’nt watch it, i already know we have more people incarcerated than any other country.
    And as far as Fry’s piece is concerned, undoubtedly his information is correct.
    Though i dont recall ever questioning it.
    Obviously information cherry picked for the the audience, to ensure the most bang for the buck.
    I find it strange you brought up such a subject, one that we in the States are readilly aware of.
    I stand by my former statement Fry is a boring jerk, and so were his associates, who’s attempts at humor, were fairly pathetic.
    Plus where on earth did he dig up such a subject and you say you actually spent hours verifying the facts. involved.
    Astonishing !
    Sounds more than just a random subject matter and more of a pre planned attempt at god knows what ?
    You should get out more Worky, this business of being attached to a keyboard is obviously having it’s effects.

  127. chuck says:
    October 25, 2012 at 6:04 am

    “I find it strange you brought up such a subject, one that we in the States are readilly aware of.”

    chuck says:
    October 25, 2012 at 4:18 am

    “Workie
    I hope you understand the three strikes and you are out law, only pertains to the State of California.”

    chuck says:
    October 25, 2012 at 5:01 am

    “Workey
    have to admitt i was unaware of the subsequent amount of states added to the list, it being so radical when inorgerated.”

    Well, obviously you weren’t Chuck, and resorting to personal insults and insinuations when you’re bankrupt is very predictable and transparent. It does you no credit.

  128. GS
    Los Castillos de Espana, eh!
    I believe most paradors are located in religeous or former religeous buildings.
    Many are located on the old pilgramage rout to Santiago de Compostela, in Galicia.
    Though there are many former buildings both used as convents and and abbeys, now operated as hostels.
    Not the youth hostels that exist, throughout europe, a more luxurious yet reasonably priced stopover.
    Perhaps you should take your family on the Pilgrimage route from France to Compostela.
    A family rebirth so to speak, thousands have done it, but if it seems daunting, you could always cut it short and still get the feeling of havinging accomplished something which takes both fortitude and perceverance.
    Ah but what am i saying, very few to-day are willing to enter into an old fashioned pilgrimage.
    Take the train, bus or drive.

  129. Workey
    I admitted i was wrong as far as how many states had subsiquently added the three strikes law.
    I dont check these things on a daily basis.
    But you were the one who introduced the subject, why such an unusual subject matter.
    And sure we in the US are well aware of how many people we have incarcerated, most of us unhappy about it, especially those serving time for drug related crimes.
    As for the Fry video, where did that come from ?
    Plus the fact you stated you spent hours checking to ensure what both Fry and Prof D’Amico’s accounts were correct (which i still have’nt watched) seems a bit bizarre to say the least.
    What on earth were you trying to prove.
    I’m baffled, sorry !

  130. chuck says:
    October 25, 2012 at 7:06 am

    “But you were the one who introduced the subject”

    Chuck, it was actually GS who introduced the “three strikes and you’re out” theme, in relation to dodgy benefit claimants in the UK.

    I’m afraid I don’t know why you find having an enquiring mind and learning about what’s happening in the world “baffling?” I have always been that way.

  131. Worky: I brought up the “three strikes and you are out” because it confused me why the British Government would use a baseball metaphor. I don’t see the U.S. authorities using the term “sticky wicket”.

  133. GS says:
    October 25, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    “Worky: I brought up the “three strikes and you are out” because it confused me why the British Government would use a baseball metaphor. I don’t see the U.S. authorities using the term “sticky wicket”.”

    Some people in the UK now say “step up to the plate” rather that “step up to the crease,” and some even say “ass” insted of “arse.” It sounds awful when a British person does it though, a bit like Madonna when she tries to sound English.

  134. GS
    One of the great spectacles of Spain is it’s architecture, both medieval and modern.
    From Bibao’s Guggenheim Museum, to Granadas Alhambra’s Alcazaba and the amazing works of art which are the great cathederals, both built by design or converted from what were originally mosque’s
    The mountain town of Honda perched on the heights and divided by an incredibly deep gorge.
    Of cours one needs time and can’t expect to do Spain in it’s entirety.
    I suggest you do it with either a single companion, or alone, as pleasing a crowd , just aint gonna work.

  135. Yes noticed that, how many people in the UK use terms such as ballpark figure, gotta step up to the plate, etc
    Possibly not understanding where the term originated or it’s meaning.
    But thats not really news, hell i did’nt realize the “Hear! Hear!” originated as “ye hear! ye hear!”
    But then again many people on a daily basis use terms they dont know the meaning of.
    Beyond the pale! for instance & S’long! both Irish in origin, the latter from the Irish language goodbye, slan!
    But thats the greatness of a languge that can incorporate foreign words that may better describe or at least be an alternative to those already a part of the language.

  136. Chuck: I have travelled quite a bit around Spain, just not The Costa Brava. My ex-wife owns a European Travel company so I was shown around by professional guides as she needed to know the museums, historical sites and restaurants.

    Not that I don’t appreciate and agree with what you are saying.