Newcastle v Sunderland – Derby Day History.

Posted on January 14th, 2011 | 60 Comments |

As we all know it’s derby awayday on Sunday, and the lucky few of you that have tickets for the game will be able to take in the sights of the beautiful city of Sunderland before making your way through the discarded prams and Ford Capri’s on bricks, being careful not to tread on anything that looks even remotely suspicious, before arriving at The Stadium Of Light, and before that Joker Park.

Anyway, I digress. No matter what the stadium has been called it has been host to some cracking victories to the Geordies, and some jammy ref helped victories to the home side. Fairness would dictate that both are discussed here. Sorry, not going to happen. This blog is intended to celebrate the dominance we have had over the Mackems in this fixture.

First of all some stats:

Newcastle Wins – 49 to Sunderlands 40
Newcastle Goals – 198 to Sunderlands 190

Newcastle have also done the double over Sunderland a total of 11 times to Sunderland’s 6.

Newcastle have won 4 of the last 9 games at home, drawn 2 and lost 2.

In contrast Sunderland’s home record for the same period is won 1, drawn 3 and lost 4, we didn’t play last season as we weren’t interested. *Ahem*.

So, as you can clearly see the dominance that NUFC have over our less worthy neighbours is there, appropriately, in black and white.

We have also beaten them more times in a row. 5 consecutive victories to us in the period between Feb. 2002 and April 2006. Compared to their 3 consecutive victories between December 1904 and September 1905.

We also better them in the highest attendance for a Derby game. And also in the lowest Attendance for a Derby game. Our 21,000 vs their 20,000.

So, in all respects, NUFC come out on top of Sunderland every single time.

If history keeps repeating it’s self we will have nothing to worry about on Sunday, so enjoy yourself.

Paddy Power have us to win at 5/1, get it on.

As an end to this article I thought I’d share this compilation of some past goals scored against Sunderland that I found on YouTube. Ignore the marketing rubbish at the end and just enjoy the goals.

Did the clip include your favourite? Derby day memories welcome below.

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  8. Bad news guys! Seems Andy Carroll is off! The headlines say he’s signed for Umbro -mind, I’m not sure which league they play in?

  10. Not porno in the traditional meaning, but it might get a few people excited.
    Thanks Worky, I followed the instructions, but it just wouldnt save

  12. Micky Toon says:
    January 14, 2011 at 2:03 pm

    “Thanks Worky, I followed the instructions, but it just wouldnt save”

    Nee botha, Micky. I’ll send you another e.mail later on.

  15. Should be a good game with both sides looking to prove something.
    Remember going to Roker Park to watch a derby game in the fifties when Sunderland were known as the million pound side.
    Good to see both sides in the top half of the EPL, hopefully it lasts, it`s great to watch two hard fought derby games a season, such a great rivalry.
    Hopefully we can do the double,need the points.

  16. Carroll out:-( In fairness, I think we have shown we’re equipped to get good results without him this season, unlike Tiote who will be a bigger loss.

    Just hope shola, enrique, best and jonas are all fit.

  18. It’s come straight from Pardew’s press conference this afternoon.
    Reporters on twitter and Skysports News are reporting it.

  19. Boater, I did reply to your castigation of my comments, I did go over the top a bit about Shola and was being a bit overcritical. I’ll try not to be so negative in future. ;)

  22. Chuck – good craic. They used to be called the bank of england at one point too, due to their lavish spending on players.

  23. Micky Toon says:
    January 14, 2011 at 3:00 pm

    “Chuck – good craic. They used to be called the bank of england at one point too, due to their lavish spending on players.”

    Aye, and shortly afterwards they were fined for making illegal payments to players, and shortly after that they were relegated.

  24. A £1m in those days would have bought Kaka, Ronaldo, Berbatov, Ronaldhino to name but a few in relation to todays prices. Anyone remember any of the big name signings my tired old brain just can’t recollect them.

    Weren’t Everton another Bank of England club.

  25. Believe the reason they were called the millionaire
    side was they had spent over that amount in transfer fees, which was an enormouse figure at that time, when star players were earning twenty odd quid a week or thereabouts.

    WORKY
    Well they at least splashed the cash, unlike Stan Seymour who sold our star Albert Stubbins.

  26. Grumpy Old-toon. Nae sweat.

    If we can find someone who can score a few crucial premiership goals, with better movement and all round contribution – plus is happy to come off the bench depending on the game,, all within the Ashley micro-budget I’d be more than happy to let Shola move on.

    No one else think Odemwingie would be a good partner for Carroll like? Also, if wigan keep with their downward spiral – a bid for Moses would be nice, knacked as he’s been this season.

  27. Chuck says:
    January 14, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    “WORKY
    Well they at least splashed the cash, unlike Stan Seymour who sold our star Albert Stubbins.”

    Aye Chuck, for the huge sum of £12,500.

  29. Got to say I’m not one of those fans who wants to see them relegated. I’d rather have them in the PL every year, finishing below us of course. Obviously I’d laugh if they were relegated, but that would be short lived.

    Hand on heart a top 3 of us 1st, Sunderland 2nd, Boro 3rd would be great.
    Not going to happen, but I’d rather that than the cities of Manchester, Liverpool and London dominating.

  31. Cullen says:
    January 14, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    “Going to the game like, sitting in the scum end! Could be a bit dodgie.”

    You may catch fleas and all sorts. Be careful!

  32. Pards on Skysports now saying Carroll has a torn muscle. From my sauces in the labour club down the road, I know this is code for being sold to spurs. ;-)

    He also said that he wants more additions to the club and at least one deal is being worked on. The woman in my chippy says that is code for we have tied down barton to be sold on in the summer to blackpool.

  33. @Micky Toon – add to that, Niall Quinn is a thoroughly decent bloke who puts most other greedy football types to shame with his non-stop charitable work, all without trying to get his mug in the photo at the same time. Not a bad chairman either.

  34. Worky – fleas I could deal with if need be, it’s catching a bottle to the head if I can’t stop myself from jumping up that worries me.

    Micky – aye theres a couple of us gan, my mate works for them (disgusting, I know) so he got us tickets. I reckon my safest option is a pitcho – if we put 5 past them i’m stripping down to me toon boxers and hittin the pitch

  36. Cullen, my mate sat in the unwashed end once, he went to the bogs during the game to put pre written abusive post-its around the bogs, said he was bricking it incase he got caught :lol:

    Good inbiased article MT ;-)

  38. Worky
    Hey that was a kings ransome in the day, twelve and a half thousand wow !
    Guess Stan. figured we had “Wor Jackie” so why not cash in on Stubbins.
    But not much has changed, from one set of canny owners to our present canny owner, the more things change the more they stay the same!

  39. Just to reassure everyone about Carroll, I can give assurances that he wont be sold. This was thrashed out at the recent meeting with Pards and Ash.

  40. Chuck says:
    January 14, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    “But not much has changed, from one set of canny owners to our present canny owner, the more things change the more they stay the same!”

    Chuck, Gannin’ back further still, Wee Hughie Gallacher was dragged almost kicking and screaming out of SJP when they sold him to Chelsea in 1930. So it goes back even further.

  41. steven pienaar leaving everton would be nice rumours goin round could be swapping smith for an everton player

  42. Davy says:
    January 14, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    “steven pienaar leaving everton would be nice rumours goin round could be swapping smith for an everton player”

    Davy, Swap Smith for Pienaar? David Moyes would probably have to be drugged before he agreed to that one.

  43. If you believe Skysports news the two clubs that were interested in Pineaar were Chelsea and Inter. Chelsea have said it’s not them.

  45. may have offered cash plus smith, pienaar out of contract in the summer so u could get him for 3mill by its self, 2 clubs made offers one rejected one accepted

  46. Moyes said: “We have had two offers and one of those has been accepted.

    “We have allowed his representatives to speak to the other club, but whether it goes through or not I don’t know yet.”

    Hmm, interesting. Out of all the rumours so far, I hope we are the club that has bid. I know he’s 28 but he would be the type of player I would be pleased if we brought in. Would add some much needed creativity on the deck.

  47. Micky Toon says:
    January 14, 2011 at 5:03 pm

    “Worky what happened with Hughie was an absolute disgrace. Poor sod.”

    Micky, do you mean his transfer from Newcastle? Or the events which led to his suicide?

  48. DJG says:
    January 14, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    “Hmm, interesting. Out of all the rumours so far, I hope we are the club that has bid. I know he’s 28 but he would be the type of player I would be pleased if we brought in. Would add some much needed creativity on the deck.”

    You have a point, DJG. I’ve always quite fancied him too.

  49. Worky I really meant about his so called transfer from NUFC. Sold without being consulted. I’ve read up on him and knew he killed himself, but I can’t remember what happened on the lead up to it.

  50. Micky Toon says:
    January 14, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    “Worky I really meant about his so called transfer from NUFC. Sold without being consulted. I’ve read up on him and knew he killed himself, but I can’t remember what happened on the lead up to it.”

    Aye Micky. Players were like livestock in those days though.

    As to his suicide, James Dalrymple wrote an excellent, long piece on him in in the Independent in 1999. It’s a wonderful read, but very saddening. I’d recommend it very highly indeed.

    A HERO WHO DIED OF SHAME

    http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/a-hero-who-died-of-shame-1124187.html

  51. I would have liked to have seen Gallacher’s first match for the Magpies against Everton. It was him vs Dixie Dean. Gallacher scored two and Dean scored three in a 3-3 draw. Despite signing half way through the season, he was still the club’s top scorer that year.

  52. worky – I can’t even begin to imagine what it must have been like to be a player back then. It actually seemed like hard work. Didn’t Gallacher work down the pit or something to make sure he had a decent income?

  53. Micky Toon says:
    January 14, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    “Didn’t Gallacher work down the pit or something to make sure he had a decent income?”

    In his early days when he played for Airdrie he was a pit yacker, Micky. Way back when there were full timers on the maximum wage. However in those days (and later until the maximum wage was abolished) there was also alot of brown envelopes changing hands, and some players made quite a bit more than they were supposed to. Which brings us back to our discussion of the “millionaire” Tramps earlier on. They were punished for secretly paying their players more than the maximum of the time.

  54. @50 Good article, obviously knew he’d killed himself but not the circumstances surrounding it.Tragic.

  55. richietoon says:
    January 14, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    “@50 Good article, obviously knew he’d killed himself but not the circumstances surrounding it.Tragic.”

    Aye Richie. It’s one of the best I’ve ever read about a Newcastle player.

  56. WORKY was a hero of my dad,he rarely read rags,but he told me the only talk he new about him was from the bars/clubs,and they used to say he was always owr soft with the kids and should have him a clip long time go,but never did,so make of it what you will

  57. Just read that article. Cracking read. Once I started reading it I began to recall that i’d heard about the child abuse accusations and his depression.

  58. Micky Toon says:
    January 14, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    “Just read that article. Cracking read.”

    There’s a full biography of him by Paul Joannou as well, Micky.

  60. Who is higher in the league? Who has the record score of 9-1 at your rented grief hole? Who owns their stadium? The answer to these questions is SUNDERLAND. Forever in our shadow, you filthy, thick gets! Hahahahaha FTM